284 Winchester is it a good calibur

DeerHunter53 · May 3, 2017

Question

I recently got a 284 Winchester and really don't know much about the rifle or capabilities. I was looking for a flat shooting caliber for mostly deer and antelope.

Does anyone on the forum posses one or shot one? I would like to know the best grain bullet to use and if anyone has experience they can share with me.

Expensive bullets is it best to reload or are they available in the stores? etc etc

NVBighorn · May 3, 2017

What rifle is it?

stinky · May 3, 2017

Everything hinges on that last question. Tis more or less the same, ballistically, as a .280.

Therefore, why, you can walk in to a Walmart and by .280 ammo. Or you can order .284 ammo...maybe.
John 14:6

Zeke · May 3, 2017

.284 (7mm) is a good caliber and the 284 Win is a good cartridge.

It's at it's best in a long action so that opens the choices up to many other rounds if so inclined.

Zeke

Homer · May 3, 2017

>Everything hinges on that last question.
> Tis more or less
>the same, ballistically, as a
>.280.
>
>Therefore, why, you can walk in
>to a Walmart and by
>.280 ammo. Or you can
>order .284 ammo...maybe.
>John 14:6

.....uh....you cannot shoot 280 through a gun chambered for 284

nebo12000 · May 3, 2017

I've owned a .284 /Winchester Model 88- lever action since I bought it new when I was 18 yrs old. Used for elk, deer, coyote etc. Its been an awesome gun. I reload my own ammo for it and have lots of new brass. Generally I use 140 grain bullet. Have used 165 but its really tight being able to get the right amount of powder. I'm certainly no reloading guru but it seems that 140-145 grain bullet works great for me. Enjoy your rifle. Is it a model 100 or the 88 ?

Elkduds · May 3, 2017

Or a model 99?

nebo12000 · May 3, 2017

Is model 99 the carbine style?

NVBighorn · May 3, 2017

LAST EDITED ON May-03-17 AT 01:52PM (MST)[p]If it's a model 99 you should not try to hunt with but instead sell it to me cheap. I will even come get it. ;-)

sjhgraysage · May 3, 2017

I know a guy with both a Winchester Model 88 and a Savage model 99 in .284 Win.
I would think that the Savage would be the more rare gun of the two. Your thoughts??

Homer · May 3, 2017

>LAST EDITED ON May-03-17
>AT 01:52?PM (MST)
>
>If it's a model 99 you
>should not try to hunt
>with but instead sell it
>to me cheap. I will
>even come get it. ;-)
>

Lol.....I knew that was coming

NVBighorn · May 3, 2017

>>LAST EDITED ON May-03-17
>>AT 01:52?PM (MST)
>>
>>If it's a model 99 you
>>should not try to hunt
>>with but instead sell it
>>to me cheap. I will
>>even come get it. ;-)
>>
>
>Lol.....I knew that was coming
>
>

stinky · May 3, 2017

Homer....you can buy a gun chambered for a difficult to find cartridge or you can buy one in a caliber that is readily available. That was what the statement said.

OR, IOW, .284 ammo is hard to come by and it's ballistic twin's ammo is @ Walmart (everywhere).

The 2 aren't interchangeble, one is too fat and the other is to long. Neither one will fit in the others chamber.
John 14:6

elkassassin · May 3, 2017

>>>LAST EDITED ON May-03-17
>>>AT 01:52?PM (MST)
>>>
>>>If it's a model 99 you
>>>should not try to hunt
>>>with but instead sell it
>>>to me cheap. I will
>>>even come get it. ;-)
>>>
>>
>>Lol.....I knew that was coming
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

Who The Hell Wants 99's anymore?

Ya!

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Weiserbucks · May 3, 2017

Bess , I'm going to laugh my ass off when someone draws your tag and takes a OIL bull with a savage 99.

elkassassin · May 3, 2017

I'm Sure Somebody Already Has!

>Bess , I'm going to laugh
>my ass off when someone
>draws your tag and takes
>a OIL bull with a
>savage 99.

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elkassassin · May 3, 2017

Hunted My 1st Year/Big Game Hunt with a Model 99!

Super Gun in their Day!

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DeerHunter53 · May 4, 2017

it's a custom made 284 Winchester my Uncle left it to me. He had taken off the old stock and replaced it with one of his custom made English walnut stocks. I believe he made the barrel as well as he made guns for a hobby.
He made this gun with his buddy Fred Barnes back in the 60's when I was a kid.
ill look tonight and see if it is a stock barrel with a custom stock.
but it does seem from the response here that the ammo is hard to come by unless you reload. Is there any ammo dealer that makes the ammo off the shelf?

RELH · May 4, 2017

Midway has Winchester 284, 150 gr. ammo for sale. Price is only $55.99 per box of 20. They also have 284 brass, you need to give reloading a serious thought at that price.

RELH

cosmic_cowboy · May 5, 2017

I have a 99 in 284 win. and have killed lots of Elk and Deer with it over the years, I just LOVE that gun.shoots great out to 300 yds. Winchester makes factory ammo, 150 gr. power points but only make it every 5 or 6 years so when its available you have to buy as much as you can get or reload your own. Its 7mm bullet so you have a large choice of bullets to choose from, but the factories shoot great.

CC

DeerHunter53 · May 5, 2017

thanks guys that is a lot of help I appreciate it. I looked last night to see if it was a model 99 or 88 and it's neither.
It is as I expected custom made barrel with a Mauser Action which was his go to action.
I have at least 8 right handed Mauser actions and 4 left handed ones as well.

He was left handed so I have several left handed rifles he left me. I watched him build several of them when I was small.

I will look at Midway and see what ammo I can come up with. From what I see this is the rifle I was looking for as it is flat shooting and you can use it on most large game.

Jerry · May 5, 2017

I have used the .284 Win in a Ruger M- 77 bolt action since '72-- bought it brand new, great caliber, I hand load mainly 140 Nosler Partition bullets, pointed soft points, & 57 grains of # IMR 4350 powder, Winchester L R Primers. Great killing bullets/cartridge, flat shooting, have taken caribou, elk, deer, moose, antelope. New cases from Norma are available from Bullets.com, I just got 200 new. Faster than ordering from Winchester direct. Sight in at dead on 25 yards, puts you + 3 inches high at 100, 3 1/2 high at 200, dead on zero at 275 yards, --2 inches at 300 yards, -- 7 at 350 yards, --- 12 inches at 400 yards, --- 22 inches at 500 yards. Very good in the wind, little drift. I also put a Muzzle Brake on the barrel so I can see the bullet hit the target right thru the scope. On my second barrel now-- wore out the first 27 years ago. Only drawback--- not much availability for ammo unless you hand load it. Really great cartridge !!

But, if I did it all again, I would select the 7 M M Rem Mag in a Rem 700 bolt action & put a muzzle brake on it, & a 4x12 Burris scope, & a Harris Bipod for sitting or prone position. I am the sniper type hunter. You can get 7 MM Rem Mag off the shelf anywhere, the ammo that is. Do not have to hand load it--- great ammo off the shelf now ! Also, when I got the .284 in '72, muzzle brakes were not widely available then. You would need a muzzle brake on a 7 MM Rem Mag., my son has a rifle just as I described here--- does not get any better than that for anything in North America. Even for big Alaskan brown bears, all you need is 175 grain Noslers & you are ready to go. Hope this helps you out ! Drop me an E Mail with any questions, happy to assist you in any way. [email protected]
Best Wishes, Jerry Gold in Ft Collins, Colorado

Elkduds · May 5, 2017

LAST EDITED ON May-05-17 AT 08:38PM (MST)[p]>It is as I expected custom
>made barrel with a Mauser
>Action which was his go
>to action.

>I see this is the
>rifle I was looking for
>as it is flat shooting
>and you can use it
>on most large game.

The Mauser action will support more robust loading than the lever actions, and the factory ammo which is loaded for those levers. Depending on the magazine length, you may be able to seat bullets farther out than the factory loads, meaning more room for powder. Your bolt action is an open invitation to move from factory 284 ballistics toward 280 AI zoom zoom w handloading.

You are correct, the 284 is ballistically comparable to 270, 280, 30-06, all based on the same case. Like those calibers, it is well-suited to any big game in North America except perhaps the biggest bear species. 140 and 160 grain bullets in mono, accubond or partition will continue the rifle's legacy in grand style.

elkassassin · May 5, 2017

Get the Winchester POWER POINTS & Never Worry About Losing another Animal!

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Jerry · May 5, 2017

This bit of information is not on the .284 Winchester cartridge , but on the military snipers from 50 years ago, Viet Nam era, we just think we can shoot long range shots-- these guys even then were in a class by themselves using off the shelf bolt action Rem 700 & Win M 70 .30--06 & hunting scopes. Though you might find of interest. Check out You Tube or Google up this legend:
Carlos Norman Hathcock, U S M C, Scout Sniper-- Viet Nam. It will simply blow you away how deadly he was, especially the 700 yard kill shot on a N V A General as he stepped out of his tent. Hope you enjoy the history story that was real combat life. Best Wishes, Jerry Gold in Ft Collins, Colorado

RELH · May 5, 2017

The book detailing Carlos Hathcock's exploits as a marine sniper was titled "93 confirmed kills". Great book on a great American hero. Another great shot by him was when the NVA sent their best sniper to kill Carlos and Carlos ended up putting a 30 cal. bullet though the NVA's rifle scope and killing him.

RELH

why · May 5, 2017

own all tree guns 88,99,100 reloaded 129 grain for 40years ,elk , no problem coyote the original short mag.

DeerHunter53 · May 8, 2017

Thanks Guys that is why I go to this forum. That is a lot of info and that really helps me out. My son and I were thinking about reloading anyway so this pushes us in that direction.

Thanks again