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>I'm going to just >throw out a guess here...but >I'm thinking you read that >in a book somewhere???? Do >you have any real life >experiences that would lead you >to a statement like that? I'm not going to engage in the personal drama of posts that are nothing but sarcastic retorts...

So. . . absolutely nothing to refute foundational biological principles necessary for the understanding of the actual effects of the taking of does. I didn't really expect anything, since this has been studied ad nauseam and never refuted as it relates to deer. Which in turn tells you that...

Muley, can you or can you not provide refutation to the principle of overproduction of species? And that all species naturally and rapidly trend towards the carrying capacity of their environment and circumstances? Pointing to historical population estimates compared to today's population...

>And Remind us which General Units >are near carrying Capacity? Every one of them. It is basic biology of every species that they overproduce, as has been understood since the days of development of Darwin's hypothesis. Its foundational to why we can even hunt at all. If it were not so...

I'm no game biologist. Just the son of one, so a few things rubbed off on me over the decades, but I don't presume to understand all facets. I've heard many points of view against harvesting does. I can't recall any one that was biologically sound from what I understand. Most is emotional, and...

>As for the archery hunt being >harder when the elk aren't >rutting? That's left up for >debate. Elk are pretty easy >to kill with a bow. >The biggest problem most bowhunters >have with elk, is they make it harder >than it needs to be. Wow. I'm not sure whether to mock you, or worship...

I need a SureCan!

Recent father huh? In the next two decades you'll find out every child is only partly product of genetics and upbringing. He will be his own unique person despite your hunting influence, and may even decide when he's a teen hunting is not what he's interested in. They are each unique. So unique...

Gopher snakes are mammalian specialists. They likely won't pass up a nice lizard, but generally it's only mammals in their diet. If anyone ever did find a gopher snake eating a rattler, it is far more likely that the gopher came upon a rattlesnake as it was eating a rodent, latched onto the...

If you have significant astigmatism, your glassing will be clearer if you have glasses or contacts on to correct that. I much prefer to use binos without glasses on, but just can't see crisply without the astigmatism correction.

That he even thought to call anyone to repentance for difference of opinion is very telling of lack of character. Sad.

LAST EDITED ON Mar-15-17 AT 02:06PM (MST)[p]>If you have a lower back >issues, make sure you are >constantly stretching and staying flexible > +1 Esp the hamstrings. Tight hamstrings can ruin a lower back.

They run narrow. EE is like a D in other brands. Can't wear them myself as they are too narrow.

Statutory and case law are pretty clear - public access to a road is not given up when land ownership transfers from public to private, unless the right of way is expressly rescinded by the governmental agency. There should be a public record of closure of the road if the public right of way was...

>That said, I'm not sure what >has changed now with the >designation? I have not read >the full designation, so I'm >just not sure. I could have written that myself. What good does this really do? Why was a NM necessary to accomplish "protection", and how does the designation do so...

>forever-ruined >and with no benefit to >Utahns except the ghost town >left behind Grizz, I generally find more to agree with what you post than disagree. This time though, I'm choking on one little bit that makes it difficult to focus on where there is agreement. "ruined forever" and...

LAST EDITED ON Sep-06-16 AT 09:50PM (MST)[p]Not the best timimg, but fire is long overdue out there. Lots of it should be burned to open up the monoculture pinion pine. Wish they would do more controlled burns.

Actually, Zion's reports 3.65 million for 2015, so about 70,000 a week.

>Sorry but no place in your >comment to account for tourist >who value access over wilderness. How so? Where did I say, or even insinuate such? ??? I think your pet peeve is showing a bit to infer I said, feel, or think anything of the such. Do you just hate any areas being set aside, or...

Hossblur wrote: >As hunters, fishermen, we KNOW that >when you put a value >to an animal, you get >more of those animals. >Elk, bears, moose, etc have >thrived because we value them. > The same is true >of land. Cutting off >vast stretches of the American >west to "save it", makes...

hossblur, I see what you are saying, and generally agree, but I think there may be some semantics causing disagreement. I don't believe the point was to stick up for an defend the acts of people choosing to do dumb things. At least I didn't take it that way. But, we must realize that we...

>I hear what you are saying...however >is there a point at >which it is no longer >defined as "hunting" and more >defined as "shooting?" You do realize, don't you, that an eerily similar argument is used by anti-hunters to justify applying their own version of moral relativism on hunters...

So, as an archer, should I argue yout are being unfair to the animals using ANY rifle, or if you shoot your rifle further than 50 or 60 yards you are just a poor excuse for a hunter? Bragging is a reflection on the immaturity and insecurity of the bragger, whether it be inches of antler or...

Just got a good view of the island. On the Eastern side entire Southern 2/3 is black

Yes, I need hunting pants! And of course I did visit their website. Very interested in trying them out.

"Maybe that's true but we have hippie lawyers so we are screwed." Hippie lawyers are not bad. We NEED all opposing views to hash out what is best through the slowly grinding wheels of legislation and adjudication. I vehemently disagree with those pigeon-holed into the term "hippie lawyers"...

Grizz, two points on your post, mostly in agreement, but adding some more. 1) I agree that Congress is the problem and the solution, but I disagree where exactly that it becomes a "problem". Yes, the EPA, ESA, etc have impacts, and unfortunately are politically appointed and swayed agencies...

LAST EDITED ON Jul-06-16 AT 10:08AM (MST)[p]>Focus on the access issue. >It is really simple. >The state of Utah has >a very poor track record >of preserving access for the >public. . . . >-Hawkeye- Agreed. However, access to trust lands (which are all together different than true...

LAST EDITED ON Jul-06-16 AT 10:00AM (MST)[p]This really isn't anything new. Just another facet of the culture that has existed even before Styler. I could tell you stories that would make even the most ballsy of you critics second guess being public and challenging the DNR, or it's child, DWR...

If you only hunted elk a couple times, I would suggest a few of General Wyoming tags. Especially if you are intent on doing DIY. It'll make that premium tag sweeter and give you much greater chances of best outcome possible.

> Will the >grass return quickly with the >summer monsoons That entirely depends on the severity of the fire. Slow-moving intense fires means nothing will be growing there for quite a while. Grasses and other plants can spring back quite quickly from a low intensity fast-moving fire.

Find out what bow he shoots and get him a similar but upgrade 2016 model in the same brand. A gift certificate for some high end boots. Those are two things I'd like were I in his situation.

It's not the call that matters. It is the caller's skill and knowledge. They will all work, given the correct usage.

I'll be down there off and on through the first week of September. Could assist some the second week as well. Should be no problem putting you on a good bull. Are you looking for a caller and help, or just info?

What are you trying to say? In this short little bit, I read you making two conflicting assertions, so it's not at all clear to me. On one side, you say there are only two options - 1) count flawed, or 2) model is flawed (e.g. elk numbers are low). Then you turn right around and insinuate that...

BB, you and Goof know the unit and the animals way better than I ever will. I take your anecdotal observations of numbers seriously. That said, and with respect, I take issue with pointing to success rates as greater evidence of animal numbers than 1) periodic counts, combined with 2)...

What do you consider a "good" camping area? If you are in a self-contained trailer, almost anywhere will work for family camping. If you are tenting it, and dependent on installed toilet facilities, you are out of luck for "family" camping. The lack of family-friendly camping is why I'm...

LAST EDITED ON May-20-15 AT 09:51AM (MST)[p]My thoughts . . . You are going to need at least one of two things, if not both: 1) someone experienced to hunt with, and 2) all the time you can get in the field to get the feel for how elk are different to hunt than deer - esp with archery. They...

Nawh, the Bookcliffs don't require horses at all. Only a small portion - the Roadless unit (separate LE draw) requires horses (or a good measure of masochism). I've hunted the non-roadless area on foot the last couple years (general season spike hunts). As far as studying topos and finding...

My hearing loss wasn't quite so sudden, but it wasn't slow either. Meniers disease in my case. 10 years ago, within a week my right ear was down 50%. A month later my left went out to about 25% remaining. Thankfully they have recovered a lot, but my left ear leaves a ton to be desired. It's...