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Everyone I talk to says they have way too many tags the last few years. They tell me I'm going home with tag soup unless I want a raghorn. Sorry to be the barrer of bad news.

Does anybody sell scouting package for late rifle bull in unit 27? Asking for a friend.

They both tell you where they are at during breeding season BUT you can't sneak up on a turkey because of his eyes. I think elk still pumps my adrenaline a little more probably because of the size but I enjoy hunting both a bunch and are very comparable to each other.

>I'm with you Theox! Quit >giving NM my $ when >they cut the NR tags >worse than any other State >I know of. Would >love to hunt it but >I'd rather put my money >elsewhere. Same here.

>My buddy just found a 380+ >dead head in 5bs. I >have the pic!!! Pic???

Well done. Thanks for posting. Can't wait for my next tag.

>So if I am doing my >math correctly, there needs to >be at least 20 tags >on a hunt before a >nonresident will draw a tag >in the bonus pass?

>This whole thing is definitely screwing >me hard. My only question >now is if there is >only one tag for a >non resident is it going >to random every year. I >really wanted to draw a >great archery elk tag have>waited my 18 years to >draw it and i think >they r going to just >straight...

You would go into the draw with 4 bonus points as a group.

LAST EDITED ON Jun-05-15 AT 10:03AM (MST)[p]15 or 16 as a NR at the moment. You can hunt there in another 20 or 25 years with the way the point creep is going. Good luck!

LAST EDITED ON May-10-15 AT 01:07PM (MST)[p]>My preference would be a 15% >cap, no more than 10% >in the Bonus Round. That >protects the current crop of >high point guys and give >up to 5% for the >random, knowing that 5% will >not likely be hit. The >end result would be, what, >maybe...

From what I've heard and read my 12 year old nephew could kill a 350 bull in that unit if you hunt hard. Good luck. Post pictures and story we will be waiting hoping for a tag next year.

I would kill the first one you see. You may not see another. We'll be waiting on the pics and story. Good luck

Did you ever hear the saying don't fix what isn't broke? Sounds like that's what you were trying to do. Move it back.

>For all you guys that think >you have no chance at >a decent archery unit with >few bonus points, I beg >to differ. > >Maybe I shouldn't say this, and >I know some are gonna >be upset, but I know >a NR archer who drew >a Unit 6A archery bull >tag with 1 point! > >Now before you go on...

>"Not sure where Bob came up >with 5 tags." > >Me neither, now that I look >at it. 3 in the >morning and asleep on my >feet probably. LOL I have to say that is the first time I've seen you say something that's not 100% correct. You better get some sleep.

LAST EDITED ON Feb-06-15 AT 07:59PM (MST)[p]>LAST EDITED ON Feb-06-15 >AT 07:38?PM (MST) > >>I see why the split is >>proposed. It gives everyone >>a chance. HOWEVER, ONE >>or TWO STRIP DEER TAGS >>with the ODDS of 1 >>to 4,000 to 5,000??? >>IS THIS REALLY going to >>make a...

>I like the way the system >is now at least for >elk. I know with >the loyalty point and hunter >ed point that every 10 >years I can draw a >really good archery tag with >12 points. I can >draw a good late rifle >tag every 5 years with >7 points. If they >change the system then it...

>I see why the split is >proposed. It gives everyone >a chance. HOWEVER, ONE >or TWO STRIP DEER TAGS >with the ODDS of 1 >to 4,000 to 5,000??? >IS THIS REALLY going to >make a difference. It >would make a difference with >less demanding hunts, like late >season rifle elk, or early...

>Vince, would you use one of >your elk choices on a >hunt that has 1/1000 odds? > Yes as soon as I draw Until I built up to 8 points again. I would put both choices on those until my points build back up. With the split idea I'll have to wait until I get 16 or 17 points. I wouldn't be wasting...

>Vince, 2 tags isn't enough in >my opinion. The 5% represents >more than that for most >hunts. > >I looked a little closer, >and without a calculator: > >Early rifle, there are virtually no >nr tags available in the >1-2 pass so it's hard >to say what would happen. > > >Late rifle, nr...

>Funny you should mention that. I >was going to mention that >for the hunts that currently >hit to 10% cap, moving >5% to the 1-2 Pass >will more than likely increase >the tags going to residents. >There is no way on >earth that 5% will magically >get drawn by nr who >are in the same...

They should leave it the way it is. Add 2 tags to all the early hunts available to Resident or Non Resident. It would be a win for everyone and I don't think it would hurt the elk population. Most areas are under 50% success rate so at most 1 additional elk per hunt. The reason for 2 tags is it...

LAST EDITED ON Apr-20-14 AT 06:50PM (MST)[p]Why couldn't they just add 2 tags to every draw that would be available to everyone. It would get more people applying and wouldn't hurt population or loyal customers in any way. They could try this for acouple years and if it don't work then split...

NOT DRAWN! Next year?

I just wish all the NR who complain on these forum's would spend the time sending aletter to there congress rep as they do on these forum's. If they did it would be much more productive. You would have never seen this last move I'm sure of that. 90% of the conservation $ for bighorn comes from...

Thanks for the invite but I'm a NR.

They are in bed with NM you won't see charges until after 5PM tomorrow. I bet you start to see them Thursday or Friday.

I am wondering if I could sign up for a class or field day in July. I can't find any extended schedules. Does anyone know?

>This is great news for the >newer applicants that are non >residents. Arizona is facing a >drop in applicants in the >future non resident wise due >to the lack of opp. >new non residents have with >regards to the draw. Now >that a non resident has >a chance to draw on >his first year...

I don't like it. Any Hunt with less than 4 tags to NR will eliminate hunting with a friend. This will make those hunts only for the solo hunter.

340" on the first one which I think all the video and pics are of him except the last clip. The last clip is 355- 365". They are both shooters to me.

>In 16A I would agree with >the other posters that with >the access and road systems >a drop camp may not >provide much benefit. Maybe >Vmcfadden is driving or flying >from across the country and >just wants to pay an >outfitter to have his camp >set-up for his group to >avoid the...

I want to retract my original guess. I went back and looked at some of my 380" bulls videos and he is a good bit smaller. It's been awhile since i"ve seen one that big. I forgot the feeling you get every time you see a bull that size. It's a WOW unbelievable moment. After looking back he...

Who could do us a drop camp in 16A?

That saying you hear, no question is a stupid question. Well, you just proved it wrong to me. That's a bull you don't think twice about shooting unless your an expert on the San Juan in Utah or Unit 9/23 Arizona and to me it still wouldn't be in question. He scores 380" or better probably much...

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