>>>anyone else sick and tired of
>>>whiney Utah cattle ranchers dictating
>>>the size of Utah's elk
>>>herds? F those assholes.
>>
>>There is NO question,
>>The cattlemen have learned how to
>>use the elk management plans
>>to their advantage..
>>Finding the unit management numbers and
>>hold the DWR to them.
>>
>>
>>No more 'cheating' up numbers with
>>higher elk herds.
>>Holding them too the lower end.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>Goofy if the state biologists have
>done studies and have discovered
>that the available habitat can
>support X number of elk,
>Why shouldn't we ask them
>to not go overt that
>number? After all, without the
>grass and shrubs and browse
>and water, nothing can benefit
>from that habitat. Ranchers like
>myself are held to strict
>numbers on the permits we
>OWN. For instance, if I
>have a permit for 166
>AUM's (Animal Unit Months), I
>cannot run 167 cows. As
>sportsmen, we complain about too
>many wild horses in areas
>like Indian Peaks. We can
>all agree on the damage
>over stocked ranges cause. So
>why should it be any
>different with wildlife? If you'd
>rather PM me that would
>be fine too. Unlike the
>other poster who just wanted
>to stir the ##### on
>this thread, I think you
>may actually may be a
>decent guy. It wasn't my
>aim to rile ya. Just
>trying to represent things from
>a rancher/hunter's perspective.
No probllem DR.
I understand the situation for needing both wildlife and livestock on the mountain.
And ya
The elk herd objective numbers have been almost doubled on the Wasatch the last couple years.
So changes are being made.