One of our drivers here hunts 5B. He and his dad love it, the first rifle hunt he said the bulls are still bugling. In 2003 they walked up on two bulls locked up gettin after it, they both killed the bulls and have the pics of the bulls by each other . Last year he said the elk were very scattered but thats expected in wet years and only he killed an elk. Mesa Gurule , it's a pretty good area , it is a bit steep to drop down but alot of hunters stay on the road to drive to the end of Mesa del Camino, which can also be good , but you still have to drop off to the north west side. On the other side of the river theres an area called Mesa De Las Viejas. It's mainly pinion/juniper country , but it also has elk scattered throughout the whole area. It's a great place to see big muleys and has very much the quality bucks as the 2'S just not as many , but gettin better.This area has some private land to the north and many elk pass back and forth but alot of the more local hunters stay close to that area.It's still an area that gets a bit of poaching up in there , so hopefully the G&F will be able to give this area some more attention. All in all that first rifle hunt should be pretty good. One bit of advice , if you guys choose to go into Mesa De Las Viejas , just pay attention to the weather. If it getts wet , it's a real bad mucky area, the clay/mud just packs tires BAD...