Here is my treat from Halloween. Shot him at 11:00 in the morning on Halloween. I saw 4 does just before, watched them for a few minutes, then I went another 15 ft or so and saw him headed up the hill. Missed him the first shot. Then I calmed the fever down and dropped him with the second shot. It was so steep he then rolled thirty yards down the hill. He is 28" wide. Not bad for the last Day of my Idaho hunt.