House Bill 002: Regulation of Hunting Methods
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Founder
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So what's a ?geographical location? exactly? I wonder. Is anyone any smarter than I? Could the entire state be a geographical location? Could a region? Or is it an exact location point defined by longitude and latitude measurement as I believe?
Makes ya go hmmmm?????
For you TOPGUN ... ha ha
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Makes ya go hmmmm?????
For you TOPGUN ... ha ha
Brian Latturner
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>So what's a ?geographical location? exactly?
>I wonder. Is anyone any
>smarter than I? Could the
>entire state be a geographical
>location? Could a region? Or
>is it an exact location
>point defined by longitude and
>latitude measurement as I believe?
>
>Makes ya go hmmmm?????
>
>For you TOPGUN ... ha ha
>
>
>Brian Latturner
>MonsterMuleys.com
>@mm_founder on Instagram
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>on Facebook!
No, it doesn't make us go hmmm, other than wondering why a guy as smart as you think you are doesn't know!! HAHA---PUKE PUKE
***A Geographical location refers to a specific physical point on Earth. This is more precise than "area" or "place," often defined by a set of latitude and longitude coordinates.
>I wonder. Is anyone any
>smarter than I? Could the
>entire state be a geographical
>location? Could a region? Or
>is it an exact location
>point defined by longitude and
>latitude measurement as I believe?
>
>Makes ya go hmmmm?????
>
>For you TOPGUN ... ha ha
>
>
>Brian Latturner
>MonsterMuleys.com
>@mm_founder on Instagram
>LIKE MonsterMuleys.com
>on Facebook!
No, it doesn't make us go hmmm, other than wondering why a guy as smart as you think you are doesn't know!! HAHA---PUKE PUKE
***A Geographical location refers to a specific physical point on Earth. This is more precise than "area" or "place," often defined by a set of latitude and longitude coordinates.
hossblur
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I'm still at a loss. Besides all Founder spins, he said he was for decreased success rates and increased opportunity.
Still waiting for how his service accomplishes either of his goals, since opportunity is tied to success rates.
From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN, PUBLIC LAND.
Still waiting for how his service accomplishes either of his goals, since opportunity is tied to success rates.
From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN, PUBLIC LAND.
LAST EDITED ON Feb-11-19 AT 12:42PM (MST)[p]>I'm still at a loss.
>Besides all Founder spins, he
>said he was for decreased
>success rates and increased opportunity. >
>
>Still waiting for how his service
>accomplishes either of his goals,
>since opportunity is tied to
>success rates.
Can you say hypocritical?! That's about the same as the Robb Wiley blog on his Nontypical Outfitters website he runs. He blames numerous things for decreasing number of good bucks, including long rang rifles and too many resident hunters being able to hunt Regions G & H every year on their general tag. Then right next to that he has an advertisement for long range rifles and the long range shooting school he runs every summer describing that's what you need to attend to increase your success at taking those big bucks.
>Besides all Founder spins, he
>said he was for decreased
>success rates and increased opportunity. >
>
>Still waiting for how his service
>accomplishes either of his goals,
>since opportunity is tied to
>success rates.
Can you say hypocritical?! That's about the same as the Robb Wiley blog on his Nontypical Outfitters website he runs. He blames numerous things for decreasing number of good bucks, including long rang rifles and too many resident hunters being able to hunt Regions G & H every year on their general tag. Then right next to that he has an advertisement for long range rifles and the long range shooting school he runs every summer describing that's what you need to attend to increase your success at taking those big bucks.
Founder
Founder Since 1999
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>I'm still at a loss.
>Besides all Founder spins, he
>said he was for decreased
>success rates and increased opportunity.
>
>
>Still waiting for how his service
>accomplishes either of his goals,
>since opportunity is tied to
>success rates.
>
>
>
>
>
>From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN,
>PUBLIC LAND.
With experience comes knowledge. Do you honestly believe that me telling someone where a big buck is increases their success rate? You believe the guys I help wouldn't be able to kill a buck if I weren't telling them where a big one lives? Or maybe you think they'll just stay home from hunting and toss their $500 tag in the garbage if I weren't around?
If you had experience, you'd know that even people who don't know where a big buck lives, can harvest a deer in Wyoming.
In fact, my personal consultation likely leads to a lower success rate, as I'm a hunter who likes to try and single out a deer and hunt that "one", and I highly encourage those I help to NOT shoot anything but the "one" they're after. "Why pay for my consulting and information unless you're willing to hold out for the big one?", is what I tell people.
As for opportunity, it effects it in no way.
Brian Latturner
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>Besides all Founder spins, he
>said he was for decreased
>success rates and increased opportunity.
>
>
>Still waiting for how his service
>accomplishes either of his goals,
>since opportunity is tied to
>success rates.
>
>
>
>
>
>From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN,
>PUBLIC LAND.
With experience comes knowledge. Do you honestly believe that me telling someone where a big buck is increases their success rate? You believe the guys I help wouldn't be able to kill a buck if I weren't telling them where a big one lives? Or maybe you think they'll just stay home from hunting and toss their $500 tag in the garbage if I weren't around?
If you had experience, you'd know that even people who don't know where a big buck lives, can harvest a deer in Wyoming.
In fact, my personal consultation likely leads to a lower success rate, as I'm a hunter who likes to try and single out a deer and hunt that "one", and I highly encourage those I help to NOT shoot anything but the "one" they're after. "Why pay for my consulting and information unless you're willing to hold out for the big one?", is what I tell people.
As for opportunity, it effects it in no way.
Brian Latturner
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>With experience comes knowledge. Do you
>honestly believe that me telling
>someone where a big buck
>is increases their success rate?
>If you had experience, you'd know
>that even people who don't
>know where a big buck
>lives, can harvest a deer
>in Wyoming.
>In fact, my personal consultation likely
>leads to a lower success
>rate, as I'm a hunter
>who likes to try and
>single out a deer and
>hunt that "one", and I
>highly encourage those I help
>to NOT shoot anything but
>the "one" they're after. "Why
>pay for my consulting and
>information unless you're willing to
>hold out for the big
>one?", is what I tell
>people.
>As for opportunity, it effects it
>in no way.
>
>Brian Latturner
Keep spinning it Brian! The last time I looked at your package advertisements YOU stated in black and white that using your service would increase their success rates by what was it, something like 400%, as I recall off the top of my head?!!! So what is it? Here you try to say you have no bearing on success and in your ads it says just the opposite and to cough up big money for your help! It can't be both Bro!
>honestly believe that me telling
>someone where a big buck
>is increases their success rate?
>If you had experience, you'd know
>that even people who don't
>know where a big buck
>lives, can harvest a deer
>in Wyoming.
>In fact, my personal consultation likely
>leads to a lower success
>rate, as I'm a hunter
>who likes to try and
>single out a deer and
>hunt that "one", and I
>highly encourage those I help
>to NOT shoot anything but
>the "one" they're after. "Why
>pay for my consulting and
>information unless you're willing to
>hold out for the big
>one?", is what I tell
>people.
>As for opportunity, it effects it
>in no way.
>
>Brian Latturner
Keep spinning it Brian! The last time I looked at your package advertisements YOU stated in black and white that using your service would increase their success rates by what was it, something like 400%, as I recall off the top of my head?!!! So what is it? Here you try to say you have no bearing on success and in your ads it says just the opposite and to cough up big money for your help! It can't be both Bro!
Sierra
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>>With experience comes knowledge. Do you
>>honestly believe that me telling
>>someone where a big buck
>>is increases their success rate?
>
>>If you had experience, you'd know
>>that even people who don't
>>know where a big buck
>>lives, can harvest a deer
>>in Wyoming.
>>In fact, my personal consultation likely
>>leads to a lower success
>>rate, as I'm a hunter
>>who likes to try and
>>single out a deer and
>>hunt that "one", and I
>>highly encourage those I help
>>to NOT shoot anything but
>>the "one" they're after. "Why
>>pay for my consulting and
>>information unless you're willing to
>>hold out for the big
>>one?", is what I tell
>>people.
>>As for opportunity, it effects it
>>in no way.
>>
>>Brian Latturner
>
>Keep spinning it Brian! The
>last time I looked at
>your package advertisements YOU
>stated in black and white
>that using your service
>would increase their success
>rates by what was it,
>something like 400%, as I
>recall off the top of
>my head?!!! So what
>is it? Here you
>try to say you have
>no bearing on success and
>in your ads it says
>just the opposite and to
>cough up big money for
>your help! It can't
>be both Bro!
Your memory and/or reading comprehension are as good as your knowledge about taxes.
>>honestly believe that me telling
>>someone where a big buck
>>is increases their success rate?
>
>>If you had experience, you'd know
>>that even people who don't
>>know where a big buck
>>lives, can harvest a deer
>>in Wyoming.
>>In fact, my personal consultation likely
>>leads to a lower success
>>rate, as I'm a hunter
>>who likes to try and
>>single out a deer and
>>hunt that "one", and I
>>highly encourage those I help
>>to NOT shoot anything but
>>the "one" they're after. "Why
>>pay for my consulting and
>>information unless you're willing to
>>hold out for the big
>>one?", is what I tell
>>people.
>>As for opportunity, it effects it
>>in no way.
>>
>>Brian Latturner
>
>Keep spinning it Brian! The
>last time I looked at
>your package advertisements YOU
>stated in black and white
>that using your service
>would increase their success
>rates by what was it,
>something like 400%, as I
>recall off the top of
>my head?!!! So what
>is it? Here you
>try to say you have
>no bearing on success and
>in your ads it says
>just the opposite and to
>cough up big money for
>your help! It can't
>be both Bro!
Your memory and/or reading comprehension are as good as your knowledge about taxes.
Founder
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>Passed 3rd reading today 25-4, almost
>there.
I'd say it's a done deal. There'll be celebrating in the streets soon. Call in the National Guard for crowd control. The deer of Wyoming have been saved! The good ole days will be upon us once again. Ha ha Just having fun with it.
Brian Latturner
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>there.
I'd say it's a done deal. There'll be celebrating in the streets soon. Call in the National Guard for crowd control. The deer of Wyoming have been saved! The good ole days will be upon us once again. Ha ha Just having fun with it.
Brian Latturner
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LAST EDITED ON Feb-11-19 AT 04:55PM (MST)[p]>>>With experience comes knowledge. Do you
>>>honestly believe that me telling
>>>someone where a big buck
>>>is increases their success rate?
>>
>>>If you had experience, you'd know
>>>that even people who don't
>>>know where a big buck
>>>lives, can harvest a deer
>>>in Wyoming.
>>>In fact, my personal consultation likely
>>>leads to a lower success
>>>rate, as I'm a hunter
>>>who likes to try and
>>>single out a deer and
>>>hunt that "one", and I
>>>highly encourage those I help
>>>to NOT shoot anything but
>>>the "one" they're after. "Why
>>>pay for my consulting and
>>>information unless you're willing to
>>>hold out for the big
>>>one?", is what I tell
>>>people.
>>>As for opportunity, it effects it
>>>in no way.
>>>
>>>Brian Latturner
>>
>>Keep spinning it Brian! The
>>last time I looked at
>>your package advertisements YOU
>>stated in black and white
>>that using your service
>>would increase their success
>>rates by what was it,
>>something like 400%, as I
>>recall off the top of
>>my head?!!! So what
>>is it? Here you
>>try to say you have
>>no bearing on success and
>>in your ads it says
>>just the opposite and to
>>cough up big money for
>>your help! It can't
>>be both Bro!
>
>Your memory and/or reading comprehension are
>as good as your knowledge
>about taxes.
Glad you finally figured it out that I'm one smart fellow. So then you readily admit you tell it both ways depending on what you're trying to sell to whom. Below is the exact paragraph C/Pd from your ad. I was way off on my earlier 400% statement since it appears it's a lot higher when you say if they go on their own their chances of a big buck are 1 in 100, but with your help it goes up to 1 in 5!
"In my estimation, the odds of harvesting a top 1-2% caliber of buck for the regions I roam without scouting is around 1 in 100, so it takes a LOT of luck to score. Based on past results of myself and others I have helped, using my information can increase your odds to about 1 in 5 for a 5-7 day hunt, and much better odds if there are multiple taker bucks in an area. Obviously, the more time you spend hunting, the better your odds of harvesting a top end buck."
>>>honestly believe that me telling
>>>someone where a big buck
>>>is increases their success rate?
>>
>>>If you had experience, you'd know
>>>that even people who don't
>>>know where a big buck
>>>lives, can harvest a deer
>>>in Wyoming.
>>>In fact, my personal consultation likely
>>>leads to a lower success
>>>rate, as I'm a hunter
>>>who likes to try and
>>>single out a deer and
>>>hunt that "one", and I
>>>highly encourage those I help
>>>to NOT shoot anything but
>>>the "one" they're after. "Why
>>>pay for my consulting and
>>>information unless you're willing to
>>>hold out for the big
>>>one?", is what I tell
>>>people.
>>>As for opportunity, it effects it
>>>in no way.
>>>
>>>Brian Latturner
>>
>>Keep spinning it Brian! The
>>last time I looked at
>>your package advertisements YOU
>>stated in black and white
>>that using your service
>>would increase their success
>>rates by what was it,
>>something like 400%, as I
>>recall off the top of
>>my head?!!! So what
>>is it? Here you
>>try to say you have
>>no bearing on success and
>>in your ads it says
>>just the opposite and to
>>cough up big money for
>>your help! It can't
>>be both Bro!
>
>Your memory and/or reading comprehension are
>as good as your knowledge
>about taxes.
Glad you finally figured it out that I'm one smart fellow. So then you readily admit you tell it both ways depending on what you're trying to sell to whom. Below is the exact paragraph C/Pd from your ad. I was way off on my earlier 400% statement since it appears it's a lot higher when you say if they go on their own their chances of a big buck are 1 in 100, but with your help it goes up to 1 in 5!
"In my estimation, the odds of harvesting a top 1-2% caliber of buck for the regions I roam without scouting is around 1 in 100, so it takes a LOT of luck to score. Based on past results of myself and others I have helped, using my information can increase your odds to about 1 in 5 for a 5-7 day hunt, and much better odds if there are multiple taker bucks in an area. Obviously, the more time you spend hunting, the better your odds of harvesting a top end buck."
hossblur
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Founder. Thats the hypocrisy, or juxtaposition of your service.
I do think that you hunt just one or two deer. You single them out, then pass everything else. You decide to possibly limit your success rates.
Then you turn around and offer a 400%increase in success rates by using you.
Next your no different than go hunt on what you do, then you charge $1400 for the info I can get from go hunt for $150?
So you tell me. What makes your service worth $1250 more than go hunt? Why is it you are being targeted and go hunt or even eastmans isn't? According to you you help 10 dudes. I guarantee tins more use eastmans or go hunt. I can't help but wonder why you are in the crosshairs since services like yours ain't a big deal.
I hope that when all this commercial BS shakes out you and the outfitters don't screw families by killing point sharing having your buying point brought to light.
From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN, PUBLIC LAND.
I do think that you hunt just one or two deer. You single them out, then pass everything else. You decide to possibly limit your success rates.
Then you turn around and offer a 400%increase in success rates by using you.
Next your no different than go hunt on what you do, then you charge $1400 for the info I can get from go hunt for $150?
So you tell me. What makes your service worth $1250 more than go hunt? Why is it you are being targeted and go hunt or even eastmans isn't? According to you you help 10 dudes. I guarantee tins more use eastmans or go hunt. I can't help but wonder why you are in the crosshairs since services like yours ain't a big deal.
I hope that when all this commercial BS shakes out you and the outfitters don't screw families by killing point sharing having your buying point brought to light.
From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN, PUBLIC LAND.
>Reading comprehension is clearly not your
>strong suit. You are
>confusing Founder?s comment about overall
>success rate with his comment
>about big buck success rate.
You had better read what he stated again, because it's not my reading comprehension that sucks the big one, but rather yours!
>strong suit. You are
>confusing Founder?s comment about overall
>success rate with his comment
>about big buck success rate.
You had better read what he stated again, because it's not my reading comprehension that sucks the big one, but rather yours!
Sierra
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LAST EDITED ON Feb-11-19 AT 07:47PM (MST)[p]>>Reading comprehension is clearly not your
>>strong suit. You are
>>confusing Founder?s comment about overall
>>success rate with his comment
>>about big buck success rate.
>
>
>You had better read what he
>stated again, because it's not
>my reading comprehension that sucks
>the big one, but rather
>yours!
Here are the key parts of Founder?s quotes that you used in your posts. Pay close attention to the words that I capitalized.
?If you had experience, you'd know that even people who don't know where a big buck lives, can harvest A DEER in Wyoming. In fact, my personal consultation likely leads to a lower success rate....? [Note, he did not say lower success rate for a big deer.]
Note, he did not say lower success rate for a big deer in his quote above.
?In my estimation, the odds of harvesting A TOP 1-2% CALIBER of buck for the regions I roam without scouting is around 1 in 100, so it takes a lot of luck to score. Based on past results of myself and others I have helped, using my information can increase your odds to about 1 in 5 for a 5-7 day hunt....?
>>strong suit. You are
>>confusing Founder?s comment about overall
>>success rate with his comment
>>about big buck success rate.
>
>
>You had better read what he
>stated again, because it's not
>my reading comprehension that sucks
>the big one, but rather
>yours!
Here are the key parts of Founder?s quotes that you used in your posts. Pay close attention to the words that I capitalized.
?If you had experience, you'd know that even people who don't know where a big buck lives, can harvest A DEER in Wyoming. In fact, my personal consultation likely leads to a lower success rate....? [Note, he did not say lower success rate for a big deer.]
Note, he did not say lower success rate for a big deer in his quote above.
?In my estimation, the odds of harvesting A TOP 1-2% CALIBER of buck for the regions I roam without scouting is around 1 in 100, so it takes a lot of luck to score. Based on past results of myself and others I have helped, using my information can increase your odds to about 1 in 5 for a 5-7 day hunt....?
>>>Reading comprehension is clearly not your
>>>strong suit. You are
>>>confusing Founder?s comment about overall
>>>success rate with his comment
>>>about big buck success rate.
>>
>>
>>You had better read what he
>>stated again, because it's not
>>my reading comprehension that sucks
>>the big one, but rather
>>yours!
>
>
>Here are the key parts of
>Founder?s quotes that you used
>in your posts. Pay
>close attention to the words
>that I capitalized.
>
>?If you had experience, you'd know
>that even people who don't
>know where a big buck
>lives, can harvest A DEER
>in Wyoming. In fact,
>my personal consultation likely leads
>to a lower success rate....?
>[Note, he did not say
>lower success rate for a
>big deer.]
>
>Note, he did not say lower
>success rate for a big
>deer in his quote above.
>
>
>?In my estimation, the odds of
>harvesting A TOP 1-2%
>CALIBER of buck for the
>regions I roam without scouting
>is around 1 in 100,
>so it takes a lot
>of luck to score. Based
>on past results of myself
>and others I have helped,
>using my information can increase
>your odds to about 1
>in 5 for a 5-7
>day hunt....?
In case you haven't noticed, Founder hasn't even come back to dispute what I posted. Just read the last paragraph above and quit looking for something to try to bail him out.
>>>strong suit. You are
>>>confusing Founder?s comment about overall
>>>success rate with his comment
>>>about big buck success rate.
>>
>>
>>You had better read what he
>>stated again, because it's not
>>my reading comprehension that sucks
>>the big one, but rather
>>yours!
>
>
>Here are the key parts of
>Founder?s quotes that you used
>in your posts. Pay
>close attention to the words
>that I capitalized.
>
>?If you had experience, you'd know
>that even people who don't
>know where a big buck
>lives, can harvest A DEER
>in Wyoming. In fact,
>my personal consultation likely leads
>to a lower success rate....?
>[Note, he did not say
>lower success rate for a
>big deer.]
>
>Note, he did not say lower
>success rate for a big
>deer in his quote above.
>
>
>?In my estimation, the odds of
>harvesting A TOP 1-2%
>CALIBER of buck for the
>regions I roam without scouting
>is around 1 in 100,
>so it takes a lot
>of luck to score. Based
>on past results of myself
>and others I have helped,
>using my information can increase
>your odds to about 1
>in 5 for a 5-7
>day hunt....?
In case you haven't noticed, Founder hasn't even come back to dispute what I posted. Just read the last paragraph above and quit looking for something to try to bail him out.
Broomer
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>Founder. Thats the hypocrisy, or
>juxtaposition of your service.
>
>I do think that you hunt
>just one or two deer.
> You single them out,
>then pass everything else. You
>decide to possibly limit your
>success rates.
>
>Then you turn around and offer
>a 400%increase in success rates
>by using you.
>
>Next your no different than go
>hunt on what you do,
>then you charge $1400 for
>the info I can get
>from go hunt for $150?
>
>
>So you tell me. What
>makes your service worth $1250
>more than go hunt?
>Why is it you are
>being targeted and go hunt
>or even eastmans isn't?
>According to you you help
>10 dudes. I guarantee
>tins more use eastmans or
>go hunt. I can't
>help but wonder why you
>are in the crosshairs since
>services like yours ain't a
>big deal.
>
>I hope that when all this
>commercial BS shakes out you
>and the outfitters don't screw
>families by killing point sharing
>having your buying point brought
>to light.
>
>
>
>
>
>From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN,
>PUBLIC LAND.
According to the liberal Democrats Buzz and jm77 go hunt and Eastman?s is nothing like Brian?s service and we are intellectually bankrupt if we think they are!
Hoss- it won't be because Brian or anyone of us point share that they ban it. It will be because the liberal Democrats Buzz and jm77 take the issue to G&F commission and cry like babies to have them change it.
Well there you go Liberal Democrats trying to regulate our entire life, all the way to point sharing for deer!
What a joke!
>juxtaposition of your service.
>
>I do think that you hunt
>just one or two deer.
> You single them out,
>then pass everything else. You
>decide to possibly limit your
>success rates.
>
>Then you turn around and offer
>a 400%increase in success rates
>by using you.
>
>Next your no different than go
>hunt on what you do,
>then you charge $1400 for
>the info I can get
>from go hunt for $150?
>
>
>So you tell me. What
>makes your service worth $1250
>more than go hunt?
>Why is it you are
>being targeted and go hunt
>or even eastmans isn't?
>According to you you help
>10 dudes. I guarantee
>tins more use eastmans or
>go hunt. I can't
>help but wonder why you
>are in the crosshairs since
>services like yours ain't a
>big deal.
>
>I hope that when all this
>commercial BS shakes out you
>and the outfitters don't screw
>families by killing point sharing
>having your buying point brought
>to light.
>
>
>
>
>
>From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN,
>PUBLIC LAND.
According to the liberal Democrats Buzz and jm77 go hunt and Eastman?s is nothing like Brian?s service and we are intellectually bankrupt if we think they are!
Hoss- it won't be because Brian or anyone of us point share that they ban it. It will be because the liberal Democrats Buzz and jm77 take the issue to G&F commission and cry like babies to have them change it.
Well there you go Liberal Democrats trying to regulate our entire life, all the way to point sharing for deer!
What a joke!
hossblur
Long Time Member
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LAST EDITED ON Feb-12-19 AT 09:15AM (MST)[p]>>Founder. Thats the hypocrisy, or
>>juxtaposition of your service.
>>
>>I do think that you hunt
>>just one or two deer.
>> You single them out,
>>then pass everything else. You
>>decide to possibly limit your
>>success rates.
>>
>>Then you turn around and offer
>>a 400%increase in success rates
>>by using you.
>>
>>Next your no different than go
>>hunt on what you do,
>>then you charge $1400 for
>>the info I can get
>>from go hunt for $150?
>>
>>
>>So you tell me. What
>>makes your service worth $1250
>>more than go hunt?
>>Why is it you are
>>being targeted and go hunt
>>or even eastmans isn't?
>>According to you you help
>>10 dudes. I guarantee
>>tins more use eastmans or
>>go hunt. I can't
>>help but wonder why you
>>are in the crosshairs since
>>services like yours ain't a
>>big deal.
>>
>>I hope that when all this
>>commercial BS shakes out you
>>and the outfitters don't screw
>>families by killing point sharing
>>having your buying point brought
>>to light.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN,
>>PUBLIC LAND.
>
>According to the liberal Democrats Buzz
>and jm77 go hunt and
>Eastman?s is nothing like Brian?s
>service and we are intellectually
>bankrupt if we think they
>are!
>
>Hoss- it won't be because Brian
>or anyone of us point
>share that they ban it.
>It will be because the
>liberal Democrats Buzz and jm77
>take the issue to G&F
>commission and cry like babies
>to have them change it.
>
>
>Well there you go Liberal Democrats
>trying to regulate our entire
>life, all the way to
>point sharing for deer!
>
>What a joke!
No. It will be for the usual reasons. Guys scheming. When point sharing was included in the regs it wasn't as a work around for commercial entities or semi commercial(founder).
It was mainly to help older hunters include younger, or to equal the chances with hunting buddies.
There is always a segment in every group who will exploit rules/regs, then cry the loudest when there is pushback. That pushback generally harms those who weren't "innovators".
Buying points, which is exactly what guides and founder are doing was not the intention of point sharing. The result will be an end to the practice. The exploiters will spend time trying a new scheme.
Blame Buzz or jm if u must, I doubt they lose much sleep over it.
The simple fact is the State of Wyoming didn't want NR having a G tag every year. Thus it being in a draw. Some folks decided they deserved a tag every year. The State now will have to clamp down.
From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN, PUBLIC LAND.
>>juxtaposition of your service.
>>
>>I do think that you hunt
>>just one or two deer.
>> You single them out,
>>then pass everything else. You
>>decide to possibly limit your
>>success rates.
>>
>>Then you turn around and offer
>>a 400%increase in success rates
>>by using you.
>>
>>Next your no different than go
>>hunt on what you do,
>>then you charge $1400 for
>>the info I can get
>>from go hunt for $150?
>>
>>
>>So you tell me. What
>>makes your service worth $1250
>>more than go hunt?
>>Why is it you are
>>being targeted and go hunt
>>or even eastmans isn't?
>>According to you you help
>>10 dudes. I guarantee
>>tins more use eastmans or
>>go hunt. I can't
>>help but wonder why you
>>are in the crosshairs since
>>services like yours ain't a
>>big deal.
>>
>>I hope that when all this
>>commercial BS shakes out you
>>and the outfitters don't screw
>>families by killing point sharing
>>having your buying point brought
>>to light.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN,
>>PUBLIC LAND.
>
>According to the liberal Democrats Buzz
>and jm77 go hunt and
>Eastman?s is nothing like Brian?s
>service and we are intellectually
>bankrupt if we think they
>are!
>
>Hoss- it won't be because Brian
>or anyone of us point
>share that they ban it.
>It will be because the
>liberal Democrats Buzz and jm77
>take the issue to G&F
>commission and cry like babies
>to have them change it.
>
>
>Well there you go Liberal Democrats
>trying to regulate our entire
>life, all the way to
>point sharing for deer!
>
>What a joke!
No. It will be for the usual reasons. Guys scheming. When point sharing was included in the regs it wasn't as a work around for commercial entities or semi commercial(founder).
It was mainly to help older hunters include younger, or to equal the chances with hunting buddies.
There is always a segment in every group who will exploit rules/regs, then cry the loudest when there is pushback. That pushback generally harms those who weren't "innovators".
Buying points, which is exactly what guides and founder are doing was not the intention of point sharing. The result will be an end to the practice. The exploiters will spend time trying a new scheme.
Blame Buzz or jm if u must, I doubt they lose much sleep over it.
The simple fact is the State of Wyoming didn't want NR having a G tag every year. Thus it being in a draw. Some folks decided they deserved a tag every year. The State now will have to clamp down.
From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN, PUBLIC LAND.
LAST EDITED ON Feb-12-19 AT 12:50PM (MST)[p]>>Founder. Thats the hypocrisy, or
>>juxtaposition of your service.
>>
>>I do think that you hunt
>>just one or two deer.
>> You single them out,
>>then pass everything else. You
>>decide to possibly limit your
>>success rates.
>>
>>Then you turn around and offer
>>a 400%increase in success rates
>>by using you.
>>
>>Next your no different than go
>>hunt on what you do,
>>then you charge $1400 for
>>the info I can get
>>from go hunt for $150?
>>
>>
>>So you tell me. What
>>makes your service worth $1250
>>more than go hunt?
>>Why is it you are
>>being targeted and go hunt
>>or even eastmans isn't?
>>According to you you help
>>10 dudes. I guarantee
>>tins more use eastmans or
>>go hunt. I can't
>>help but wonder why you
>>are in the crosshairs since
>>services like yours ain't a
>>big deal.
>>
>>I hope that when all this
>>commercial BS shakes out you
>>and the outfitters don't screw
>>families by killing point sharing
>>having your buying point brought
>>to light.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN,
>>PUBLIC LAND.
>
>According to the liberal Democrats Buzz
>and jm77 go hunt and
>Eastman?s is nothing like Brian?s
>service and we are intellectually
>bankrupt if we think they
>are!
>
>Hoss- it won't be because Brian
>or anyone of us point
>share that they ban it.
>It will be because the
>liberal Democrats Buzz and jm77
>take the issue to G&F
>commission and cry like babies
>to have them change it.
>
>
>Well there you go Liberal Democrats
>trying to regulate our entire
>life, all the way to
>point sharing for deer!
>
>What a joke!
And there folks is another gem of a post that is so far off that you have to wonder if the IQ of this member is more than double digits, LOL!
>>juxtaposition of your service.
>>
>>I do think that you hunt
>>just one or two deer.
>> You single them out,
>>then pass everything else. You
>>decide to possibly limit your
>>success rates.
>>
>>Then you turn around and offer
>>a 400%increase in success rates
>>by using you.
>>
>>Next your no different than go
>>hunt on what you do,
>>then you charge $1400 for
>>the info I can get
>>from go hunt for $150?
>>
>>
>>So you tell me. What
>>makes your service worth $1250
>>more than go hunt?
>>Why is it you are
>>being targeted and go hunt
>>or even eastmans isn't?
>>According to you you help
>>10 dudes. I guarantee
>>tins more use eastmans or
>>go hunt. I can't
>>help but wonder why you
>>are in the crosshairs since
>>services like yours ain't a
>>big deal.
>>
>>I hope that when all this
>>commercial BS shakes out you
>>and the outfitters don't screw
>>families by killing point sharing
>>having your buying point brought
>>to light.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN,
>>PUBLIC LAND.
>
>According to the liberal Democrats Buzz
>and jm77 go hunt and
>Eastman?s is nothing like Brian?s
>service and we are intellectually
>bankrupt if we think they
>are!
>
>Hoss- it won't be because Brian
>or anyone of us point
>share that they ban it.
>It will be because the
>liberal Democrats Buzz and jm77
>take the issue to G&F
>commission and cry like babies
>to have them change it.
>
>
>Well there you go Liberal Democrats
>trying to regulate our entire
>life, all the way to
>point sharing for deer!
>
>What a joke!
And there folks is another gem of a post that is so far off that you have to wonder if the IQ of this member is more than double digits, LOL!
jm77
Long Time Member
- Messages
- 3,369
>LAST EDITED ON Feb-12-19
>AT 12:50?PM (MST)
>
>>>Founder. Thats the hypocrisy, or
>>>juxtaposition of your service.
>>>
>>>I do think that you hunt
>>>just one or two deer.
>>> You single them out,
>>>then pass everything else. You
>>>decide to possibly limit your
>>>success rates.
>>>
>>>Then you turn around and offer
>>>a 400%increase in success rates
>>>by using you.
>>>
>>>Next your no different than go
>>>hunt on what you do,
>>>then you charge $1400 for
>>>the info I can get
>>>from go hunt for $150?
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>So you tell me. What
>>>makes your service worth $1250
>>>more than go hunt?
>>>Why is it you are
>>>being targeted and go hunt
>>>or even eastmans isn't?
>>>According to you you help
>>>10 dudes. I guarantee
>>>tins more use eastmans or
>>>go hunt. I can't
>>>help but wonder why you
>>>are in the crosshairs since
>>>services like yours ain't a
>>>big deal.
>>>
>>>I hope that when all this
>>>commercial BS shakes out you
>>>and the outfitters don't screw
>>>families by killing point sharing
>>>having your buying point brought
>>>to light.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN,
>>>PUBLIC LAND.
>>
>>According to the liberal Democrats Buzz
>>and jm77 go hunt and
>>Eastman?s is nothing like Brian?s
>>service and we are intellectually
>>bankrupt if we think they
>>are!
>>
>>Hoss- it won't be because Brian
>>or anyone of us point
>>share that they ban it.
>>It will be because the
>>liberal Democrats Buzz and jm77
>>take the issue to G&F
>>commission and cry like babies
>>to have them change it.
>>
>>
>>Well there you go Liberal Democrats
>>trying to regulate our entire
>>life, all the way to
>>point sharing for deer!
>>
>>What a joke!
>
>
>And there folks is another gem
>of a post that is
>so far off that you
>have to wonder if the
>IQ of this member is
>more than double digits, LOL!
>
Mike, I've been called a lot of things in my life, but that's the first time anyone called me a "liberal democrat"!
>AT 12:50?PM (MST)
>
>>>Founder. Thats the hypocrisy, or
>>>juxtaposition of your service.
>>>
>>>I do think that you hunt
>>>just one or two deer.
>>> You single them out,
>>>then pass everything else. You
>>>decide to possibly limit your
>>>success rates.
>>>
>>>Then you turn around and offer
>>>a 400%increase in success rates
>>>by using you.
>>>
>>>Next your no different than go
>>>hunt on what you do,
>>>then you charge $1400 for
>>>the info I can get
>>>from go hunt for $150?
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>So you tell me. What
>>>makes your service worth $1250
>>>more than go hunt?
>>>Why is it you are
>>>being targeted and go hunt
>>>or even eastmans isn't?
>>>According to you you help
>>>10 dudes. I guarantee
>>>tins more use eastmans or
>>>go hunt. I can't
>>>help but wonder why you
>>>are in the crosshairs since
>>>services like yours ain't a
>>>big deal.
>>>
>>>I hope that when all this
>>>commercial BS shakes out you
>>>and the outfitters don't screw
>>>families by killing point sharing
>>>having your buying point brought
>>>to light.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>From the party of HUNTIN, FISHIN,
>>>PUBLIC LAND.
>>
>>According to the liberal Democrats Buzz
>>and jm77 go hunt and
>>Eastman?s is nothing like Brian?s
>>service and we are intellectually
>>bankrupt if we think they
>>are!
>>
>>Hoss- it won't be because Brian
>>or anyone of us point
>>share that they ban it.
>>It will be because the
>>liberal Democrats Buzz and jm77
>>take the issue to G&F
>>commission and cry like babies
>>to have them change it.
>>
>>
>>Well there you go Liberal Democrats
>>trying to regulate our entire
>>life, all the way to
>>point sharing for deer!
>>
>>What a joke!
>
>
>And there folks is another gem
>of a post that is
>so far off that you
>have to wonder if the
>IQ of this member is
>more than double digits, LOL!
>
Mike, I've been called a lot of things in my life, but that's the first time anyone called me a "liberal democrat"!
nripepi
Very Active Member
- Messages
- 2,113
Please just make it so you can only do it once every 5 years or whatever the number is! It is a simple solution and it won't hurt everyone else who is sharing for the "right reasons". I will voice my opinion to the G&F, but not sure it will do much over the phone or via email?
nripepi
Very Active Member
- Messages
- 2,113
I hear what you are saying TopGun and I questioned those odds on a post last year, but I think Sierra is correct on this one.
The odds of shooting a big buck go up using Founder's service, but because one is holding out for that buck...they are more likely to go home empty handed and success rates could drop. That is likely the case for those spending the big number of points and paying for this "service"....they want to shoot a big buck and there just are not that many of them and they are hard to get. The guy spending half the number of points, probably goes into the hunt looking for a decent buck and then more often than not shoots one closer to the 50% harvest average versus's Founders 20% average.
The odds of shooting a big buck go up using Founder's service, but because one is holding out for that buck...they are more likely to go home empty handed and success rates could drop. That is likely the case for those spending the big number of points and paying for this "service"....they want to shoot a big buck and there just are not that many of them and they are hard to get. The guy spending half the number of points, probably goes into the hunt looking for a decent buck and then more often than not shoots one closer to the 50% harvest average versus's Founders 20% average.
>I hear what you are saying
>TopGun and I questioned those
>odds on a post last
>year, but I think Sierra
>is correct on this one.
>
>
>The odds of shooting a big
>buck go up using Founder's
>service, but because one is
>holding out for that buck...they
>are more likely to go
>home empty handed and success
>rates could drop. That
>is likely the case for
>those spending the big number
>of points and paying for
>this "service"....they want to shoot
>a big buck and there
>just are not that many
>of them and they are
>hard to get. The
>guy spending half the number
>of points, probably goes into
>the hunt looking for a
>decent buck and then more
>often than not shoots one
>closer to the 50% harvest
>average versus's Founders 20% average.
>
I have no argument in what you just posted. However, Founder advertises he estimates that a guy that does't scout has a 1 in 100 chance at one of those biggest bucks, but if you buy one of his big buck packages the odds go up to 1 in 5. hen in actual post on here about it he tells us just the opposite. In reality we have no idea other than the odds have to be better when a guy buying his package doesn't go into the hunt cold turkey.
>TopGun and I questioned those
>odds on a post last
>year, but I think Sierra
>is correct on this one.
>
>
>The odds of shooting a big
>buck go up using Founder's
>service, but because one is
>holding out for that buck...they
>are more likely to go
>home empty handed and success
>rates could drop. That
>is likely the case for
>those spending the big number
>of points and paying for
>this "service"....they want to shoot
>a big buck and there
>just are not that many
>of them and they are
>hard to get. The
>guy spending half the number
>of points, probably goes into
>the hunt looking for a
>decent buck and then more
>often than not shoots one
>closer to the 50% harvest
>average versus's Founders 20% average.
>
I have no argument in what you just posted. However, Founder advertises he estimates that a guy that does't scout has a 1 in 100 chance at one of those biggest bucks, but if you buy one of his big buck packages the odds go up to 1 in 5. hen in actual post on here about it he tells us just the opposite. In reality we have no idea other than the odds have to be better when a guy buying his package doesn't go into the hunt cold turkey.
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