wymoosehunter
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I had to wait a little while after the draw before posting as I probably would have written something I would regret later.
I have not drawn an elk tag in 10 years as a resident and I am not putting in for units with sheep odds. The odds are generally around 25%-35% for the units I apply for. Almost the same with deer, however, I did draw a deer in 2005. What is really torquing me off is the antelope. I have drawn two 1st choice tags in ten years and draw odds are way better than deer and elk draw odds-about 50% for the unit I apply for.
Luckily, I draw a second or third choice antelope every year-but those units generally sux for quality goats. I can buy a general elk tag and drive halfway across the state to go to a general unit (which has never let me down) and hunt every year. However, deer general areas even remotely near me suck! I won't even think about buying a general deer tag ever again, let alone kill one of the three or four bucks that inhabit territory that should harbor hundreds. WY G&F is still issuing doe deer tags and wondering why they are still declining in numbers.
I guess the point of my rant are the following points:
1. WY G&F is not biologically driven, but driven by the $$$$$$$$$ and WY G&F just gives lip service to healthy herds. Just sell more NR tags, "we can fund something with the revenue" is their new motto. Example, Unit 102 deer, WY G&F issued 370 total tags. There aren't 370 three-year old bucks in that whole unit-we just keep killing off our future.
2. WY has to get with the program and do unto others as they do unto us. Start limiting NR tags to 15% max, and enact reciprocity for every state. For example, California limits NR's to one elk permit across that entire state, therefore, only one Californian could draw an elk tag in this state-be it a regional or LQ. Don't get me wrong, I like NR hunters and I like to hunt other states too, but the playing field needs leveled.
3. To support the above assertions, in the units I applied for, NR's received 22% of all antelope tags, 16% of all deer tags (actually, in my opinion, that is a good ratio), and 23% of all elk tags went to NR's.
I know I just don't have the mojo or something to draw in this state, but this is ridiculous.
At least I feel better now, getting this off my chest, but we do need to fix our G&F biologically speaking and enact reciprocity.
Okay, rant over. Those of you NR's that did draw, I will help you out with info if you pm me.
WyMo
I have not drawn an elk tag in 10 years as a resident and I am not putting in for units with sheep odds. The odds are generally around 25%-35% for the units I apply for. Almost the same with deer, however, I did draw a deer in 2005. What is really torquing me off is the antelope. I have drawn two 1st choice tags in ten years and draw odds are way better than deer and elk draw odds-about 50% for the unit I apply for.
Luckily, I draw a second or third choice antelope every year-but those units generally sux for quality goats. I can buy a general elk tag and drive halfway across the state to go to a general unit (which has never let me down) and hunt every year. However, deer general areas even remotely near me suck! I won't even think about buying a general deer tag ever again, let alone kill one of the three or four bucks that inhabit territory that should harbor hundreds. WY G&F is still issuing doe deer tags and wondering why they are still declining in numbers.
I guess the point of my rant are the following points:
1. WY G&F is not biologically driven, but driven by the $$$$$$$$$ and WY G&F just gives lip service to healthy herds. Just sell more NR tags, "we can fund something with the revenue" is their new motto. Example, Unit 102 deer, WY G&F issued 370 total tags. There aren't 370 three-year old bucks in that whole unit-we just keep killing off our future.
2. WY has to get with the program and do unto others as they do unto us. Start limiting NR tags to 15% max, and enact reciprocity for every state. For example, California limits NR's to one elk permit across that entire state, therefore, only one Californian could draw an elk tag in this state-be it a regional or LQ. Don't get me wrong, I like NR hunters and I like to hunt other states too, but the playing field needs leveled.
3. To support the above assertions, in the units I applied for, NR's received 22% of all antelope tags, 16% of all deer tags (actually, in my opinion, that is a good ratio), and 23% of all elk tags went to NR's.
I know I just don't have the mojo or something to draw in this state, but this is ridiculous.
At least I feel better now, getting this off my chest, but we do need to fix our G&F biologically speaking and enact reciprocity.
Okay, rant over. Those of you NR's that did draw, I will help you out with info if you pm me.
WyMo