So whats everyone going to do in utah 1x muzzleloader rule??

[notrace]

So curious what everyone going to do or what they recommend for sights on muzzleloaders in utah?


Although I agree with the new rules in many cases I wish they would have changed after my wife drew a muzzleloader tag lol!!!

What's everyone thinking???

 

[kk]

Open sites, the same as I always have.

 

[cantkillathing]

I hope the UDWR makes sure to make big bold highlighted warnings all of the regulations to make sure every muzzleloader hunter is aware of the change. Make no doubt, even it should be posted when applying for muzzleloader that there are scope changes.

 

[El Gringo]

I’m going to be applying for Muzzy tags!

 

[Bluehair]

I’m going to continue to make inflammatory posts in an effort to melt the fiber between Vernal and SLC.

 

[BeDawg]

Hope that draw odds for muzzleloader hunting gets better!

I hope they take scopes off of rifles too!

 

[rmanwill]

Change back and continue to hunt muzzy hunt because that is the season I enjoy. Tagged way more animals with open sight/zero magnification then with the 3X9 plus scopes.

That change just hurt the muzzy hunt and the draw odds.

 

[Utah400Elk]

I plan on calling souther Utah DWR janitor to get approval! BLAM!

 

[elkassassin]

A Couple Basinites I've Talked With Are Gonna Use The QUICK-DETATCHABLES!

I'll Just Use One Of My Other SmokePoles!

 

[Camper_A1]

Put my red dot back on. The only reason I changed to a 3 x 9 was because THEY changed the rules and said I could use one.

 

[lundellhunting7]

This is what we threw on the Paramount Pro .40 we hunt with. GREAT SCOPE so far!

Freedom RDS BDC w/ Mount

All red dots are not created equal. The Freedom® RDS® (red dot sight) changes the game when it comes to consistency and durability in a red dot sight. It's everything you need in a red dot and nothing you don't.

www.leupold.com

 

[Shadow]

I’ll just continue killing animals with my open sights and enjoy losing some of the crowd that was created when every wagging d**k went out and bought a muzzleloader.

 

[twopointdn]

I put my red dot back on and put one on my sons as well. I’m hoping to hear less shooting across 300 to 800 yard canyon if I draw a tag. Fingers crossed.

 

[hossblur]

I’m going to continue to make inflammatory posts in an effort to melt the fiber between Vernal and SLC.

Thank God. No one likes the basin anyway, it's like Wyoming with all the meth, but none of the strippers

 

[elkassassin]

It's A Good Place For None Of You To Visit!

Kinda Like What Lumpy Tells Everybody About Utah!

Thank God. No one likes the basin anyway, it's like Wyoming with all the meth, but none of the strippers

 

[cgmoonsky]

I’ve hunted the muzzy hunt for years and I admit I did indeed slap a 3x9 scope on the first year they allowed it, but I did notice a jump in hunters when they allowed scopes, so I’m glad to see the numbers hopefully go back down.

 

[southslope82]

Open sites again for me, 1x power scopes are terrible

 

[Smokepole]

Back to open site

 

[Downrange]

Back to my 1x vortex crossfire. Glad I kept it

 

[hossblur]

Loin cloth and powder horn

 

[heartshot]

I stayed open sights despite several muzz hunts since the change. I was contemplating getting more competitive by adding a scope. This rule change was perfect timing and saved me some money.

 

[Gator]

Yep back 1x it was still in the gun safe

 

[yoteduster]

Thank God. No one likes the basin anyway, it's like Wyoming with all the meth, but none of the strippers

Alot of us wish everybody would quit coming to the basin...lol

 

[sambo3006]

I'll put my Simmons 1x back on that I used on a Utah muzzleloader hunt in the early 2000's. I can't see a front sight clearly.

 

[Torq]

Who's got a good peep sight? I would be interested in trying that out.

 

[deadibob]

Who's got a good peep sight? I would be interested in trying that out.

Williams makes a good adjustable rear peep sight. I used them on several muzzies over the years with a fine fiber optic front bead like the williams firesight.

 

[RutCrazed]

How many are actually going to make the change? When was the last time you had your license checked, let alone your rifle??

 

[BrowningRage]

Open Iron Sights just like I've ever done on a Muzzy Hunt. No breach loading cheat muzzies either, real muzzies

 

[hossblur]

How many are actually going to make the change? When was the last time you had your license checked, let alone your rifle??

Ah, yes, the Utard way.

 

[rmanwill]

How many are actually going to make the change? When was the last time you had your license checked, let alone your rifle??

Me and my 3 sons will actually go through with the change to follow the rules/regulations. Just saying.

Just ordered and received 4 picatinny rails and purchased 3 of the new 4 new optics. Also have two sets of Williams peep sights.

 

[deadI]

Me and my 3 sons will actually go through with the change to follow the rules/regulations. Just saying.

Just ordered and received 4 picatinny rails and purchased 3 of the new 4 new optics. Also have two sets of Williams peep sights.

What optic are you putting on them ?

 

[rmanwill]

What optic are you putting on them ?

Got both the Vortex Spitfire 1X prism scope and the Leupold Freedom 1X RDS Red dot. Put them on and see which works the best.

 

[MrShane]

Hoping LEO will have enough grief with poachers that kept their >1x scopes on that Utah will go to a no-scope policy soon.
And open ignition only.
And no sabots.
And…..
Then just adopt Idaho’s regulations.

 

[rmanwill]

Hoping LEO will have enough grief with poachers that kept their >1x scopes on that Utah will go to a no-scope policy soon.
And open ignition only.
And no sabots.
And…..
Then just adopt Idaho’s regulations.

They did. It is called the HAMSS hunt.

 

[BIGJOHNT]

Well my long range muzzle loader won't work well with a one power scope. I guess it's going to have to be a 1500 dollar adjustable peep sight. It's still not going to help my old eyes to focus. Almost hate to take apart that muzzle loader. It shoots better then some of my rifles.

 

[MrShane]

They did. It is called the HAMSS hunt.

Can’t hunt HAMSS every year.

 

[rmanwill]

Can’t hunt HAMSS every year.

The only hunt you can hunt every year in Utah now is the archery and that is is select units, not all of them.

 

[lundellhunting7]

Well my long range muzzle loader won't work well with a one power scope. I guess it's going to have to be a 1500 dollar adjustable peep sight. It's still not going to help my old eyes to focus. Almost hate to take apart that muzzle loader. It shoots better then some of my rifles.

I thought the same thing...... But ended up trying the Leupold Freedom RDS... and I 100% think its the ticket....

 

[MrShane]

The only hunt you can hunt every year in Utah now is the archery and that is is select units, not all of them.

Agreed, and VERY sad.
My hopes would be if we copied Idaho’s muzzy regs enough folks would bail from muzzy season that average Joe could pull a muzzy tag every year.
Only one way to find out…

 

[rmanwill]

Agreed, and VERY sad.
My hopes would be if we copied Idaho’s muzzy regs enough folks would bail from muzzy season that average Joe could pull a muzzy tag every year.
Only one way to find out…

I agree, but I'm really hoping the current change has that effect to some point. I know putting on the higher power scopes really hurt the drawing odds.

 

[MrShane]

I agree, but I'm really hoping the current change has that effect to some point. I know putting on the higher power scopes really hurt the drawing odds.

Yes, I hope you are 100% correct.

 

[Shadow]

I think for the most part, us guys who hunted the muzzy before like the new changes.
The guys who got into muzzleloader hunting after the original changes? Well, sorry you spent all that loot.

 

[rmanwill]

A lot of us old timers enjoy the muzzy hunt and are not all about filling a tag. Just the hunt and season we have enjoyed for decades.

Unfortunately I played the game along with others when they changed the game and added the variable power scopes. Not an ideal situation, but it is what it is. Now I have 4 scopes with muzzy reticle's sitting in the closet and had to spend money for 4 new 1X power scopes. A couple thousand dollars to enjoy my hunt and my hunt with family and friends. All is well. Like the changes and the current rules/regulations.

 

[yotebuster17]

I agree, but I'm really hoping the current change has that effect to some point. I know putting on the higher power scopes really hurt the drawing odds.

NM went to iron sights only and it barely made dent in draw odds. They got slightly better in some hunts and worse in others since it made everyone think it was gonna get better. It won’t make a lick of difference in UT. Harvest rates will likely get worse so they can issue more tags which may in turn make odds a bit better but it’s gonna be minimal. I agree with the change, but it’s not gonna help much

 

[middlefork]

NM went to iron sights only and it barely made dent in draw odds. They got slightly better in some hunts and worse in others since it made everyone think it was gonna get better. It won’t make a lick of difference in UT. Harvest rates will likely get worse so they can issue more tags which may in turn make odds a bit better but it’s gonna be minimal. I agree with the change, but it’s not gonna help much

This ^^^^
Need proof? Check out the number of applicants prior to variable scopes and after. There was no major increase.

 

[RutCrazed]

Ah, yes, the Utard way.

Sad but true.
UTVs/ATVs on non-motorized trails or making their own roads
No plugs or no non-toxic in the marshes
Shooting from the road or cab.
Spotlighting
Trespassing
Hunting in the wrong unit
Hunting the wrong species
Hunting in the wrong state

Nothing surprises me anymore