elkocd, I think it is about 7-9 miles up canyon. We are above one of the roads that cross the river, It is called clone road. Not sure on spelling. We hunted this about 5 years ago and I took a old 4 point with curled up hooves, i have seen that on horses not taken care of but not on a deer, and my dad took a 3 point. I'm not use to hunting that open country like that usually in the timber in the ukiah unit. But it was fun for a change.