Those nice Somali refugees at it again.
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RELH
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Another one of many concerning Obama's FUBARs on immigrant's policies.
RELH
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DEVELOPING: An 18-year-old Somali man was behind an attack involving a car and butcher knife on the campus of Ohio State University Monday that left nine people injured, law enforcement sources told Fox News.
After the suspect plowed his vehicle into the crowd, officials said he got out of the vehicle and began attacking people with a butcher knife before he was shot and killed by a campus police officer.
Two law enforcement sources told Fox News the attacker, identified as Abdul Artan, came into the United States as a Somali refugee, and was granted status as a legal permanent resident.
The motive behind the attack is still unclear, according to law enforcement sources, but investigators are not ruling out anything at this point.
Ohio State Police Chief Craig Stone said the attacker purposely drove over a curb and into pedestrians.
"This was done on purpose," he said.
Columbus Police Chief Kim Jacobs said police were looking into whether it was a terrorist attack.
RELH
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DEVELOPING: An 18-year-old Somali man was behind an attack involving a car and butcher knife on the campus of Ohio State University Monday that left nine people injured, law enforcement sources told Fox News.
After the suspect plowed his vehicle into the crowd, officials said he got out of the vehicle and began attacking people with a butcher knife before he was shot and killed by a campus police officer.
Two law enforcement sources told Fox News the attacker, identified as Abdul Artan, came into the United States as a Somali refugee, and was granted status as a legal permanent resident.
The motive behind the attack is still unclear, according to law enforcement sources, but investigators are not ruling out anything at this point.
Ohio State Police Chief Craig Stone said the attacker purposely drove over a curb and into pedestrians.
"This was done on purpose," he said.
Columbus Police Chief Kim Jacobs said police were looking into whether it was a terrorist attack.
NeMont
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That is the spirit, without those stinking refugees no person will ever attack another one in America. Nobody that isn't Muslim has ever gone on a shooting and killing spree before. You girls wet the bed about everything. Can you find anyone anywhere who said not to vet these refugees? Please post it up.
Also if anyone is looking to Trump to be their savior you are going to be mighty disappointed in about 18 months when he doesn't get anything much done. I guess if Ivanka has her way we will get to pay for maternity leave for everyone but that seems like more socialism.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...by-ivanka-trump-to-outline-child-care-policy/
I know this if you keep denigrating the next generation you may find yourself sitting in your crap filled Depends for a very long time waiting for help in the nursing home. I know if I was in the next generation and knew the debt this one ran up, I would not be real excited to see that you get your crappy pants changed.
Nemont
Also if anyone is looking to Trump to be their savior you are going to be mighty disappointed in about 18 months when he doesn't get anything much done. I guess if Ivanka has her way we will get to pay for maternity leave for everyone but that seems like more socialism.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...by-ivanka-trump-to-outline-child-care-policy/
I know this if you keep denigrating the next generation you may find yourself sitting in your crap filled Depends for a very long time waiting for help in the nursing home. I know if I was in the next generation and knew the debt this one ran up, I would not be real excited to see that you get your crappy pants changed.
Nemont
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"Trump will be our savior I hope. ........" .........now that is funny I don't care who you are or even if you have a working brain, standup comedy should be a career choice.
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-28-16 AT 07:21PM (MST)[p]NeMont, If playing on their phones paid $10 per hour, the millennial's would be set for life. I hope they raise their kids to get a job and take care of them. It's hard to draw much SS without a work history.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-much-average-millennial-savings-182226193.html
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-much-average-millennial-savings-182226193.html
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Corn the only standup comedy we have witnessed is Obama and his "Hope and Change" and you falling for it twice. That was one hell of a knee slapping comedy show.
The real funny part was when you got the sharp stick up the backside for believing him. Boy! did we laugh on that one.
RELH
The real funny part was when you got the sharp stick up the backside for believing him. Boy! did we laugh on that one.
RELH
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Nemont, we raised our kids to value hard work to get ahead and family comes first, and they are raising their kids in the same values. The wife and I are not worried about being put in a nursing home by our kids.
Sounds like you may be worried about your kids slapping your butt in a nursing home and forgetting about you.
RELH
Sounds like you may be worried about your kids slapping your butt in a nursing home and forgetting about you.
RELH
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-28-16 AT 09:32PM (MST)[p]Nemont said "That is the spirit, without those stinking refugees no person will ever attack another one in America. Nobody that isn't Muslim has ever gone on a shooting and killing spree before. You girls wet the bed about everything."
So, you're saying other people kill, so it's okay if a Jihadist kills some too? That's just lame, but so predictable from a terrorist sympathizer.
So, you're saying other people kill, so it's okay if a Jihadist kills some too? That's just lame, but so predictable from a terrorist sympathizer.
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-28-16 AT 09:41PM (MST)[p]>LAST EDITED ON Nov-28-16
>AT 09:32?PM (MST)
>
>Nemont said "That is the spirit,
>without those stinking refugees no
>person will ever attack another
>one in America. Nobody that
>isn't Muslim has ever gone
>on a shooting and killing
>spree before. You girls wet
>the bed about everything."
>
>So, you're saying other people kill,
>so it's okay if a
>Jihadist kills some too? That's
>just lame, but so predictable
>from a terrorist sympathizer.
Reading isn't your talent it is it? Both are done by nut jobs and the difference is that if a white guy with a gun goes on a killing spree you all gather around ole Wayne and make him the pivot man in your circle jerk. A nut job Somali goes off and you blame an entire race and religion. Your bigotry is showing there.
I know they are brown and don't matter to you but you should not fear everything.
Nemont
>AT 09:32?PM (MST)
>
>Nemont said "That is the spirit,
>without those stinking refugees no
>person will ever attack another
>one in America. Nobody that
>isn't Muslim has ever gone
>on a shooting and killing
>spree before. You girls wet
>the bed about everything."
>
>So, you're saying other people kill,
>so it's okay if a
>Jihadist kills some too? That's
>just lame, but so predictable
>from a terrorist sympathizer.
Reading isn't your talent it is it? Both are done by nut jobs and the difference is that if a white guy with a gun goes on a killing spree you all gather around ole Wayne and make him the pivot man in your circle jerk. A nut job Somali goes off and you blame an entire race and religion. Your bigotry is showing there.
I know they are brown and don't matter to you but you should not fear everything.
Nemont
>LAST EDITED ON Nov-28-16
>AT 09:41?PM (MST)
>
>>LAST EDITED ON Nov-28-16
>>AT 09:32?PM (MST)
>>
>>Nemont said "That is the spirit,
>>without those stinking refugees no
>>person will ever attack another
>>one in America. Nobody that
>>isn't Muslim has ever gone
>>on a shooting and killing
>>spree before. You girls wet
>>the bed about everything."
>>
>>So, you're saying other people kill,
>>so it's okay if a
>>Jihadist kills some too? That's
>>just lame, but so predictable
>>from a terrorist sympathizer.
>
>
>Reading isn't your talent it is
>it? Both are done
>by nut jobs and the
>difference is that if a
>white guy with a gun
>goes on a killing spree
>you all gather around ole
>Wayne and make him the
>pivot man in your circle
>jerk. A nut job
>Somali goes off and you
>blame an entire race and
>religion. Your bigotry is
>showing there.
>
>I know they are brown and
>don't matter to you but
> you should not fear
>everything.
>
>Nemont
LMAOF!
>AT 09:41?PM (MST)
>
>>LAST EDITED ON Nov-28-16
>>AT 09:32?PM (MST)
>>
>>Nemont said "That is the spirit,
>>without those stinking refugees no
>>person will ever attack another
>>one in America. Nobody that
>>isn't Muslim has ever gone
>>on a shooting and killing
>>spree before. You girls wet
>>the bed about everything."
>>
>>So, you're saying other people kill,
>>so it's okay if a
>>Jihadist kills some too? That's
>>just lame, but so predictable
>>from a terrorist sympathizer.
>
>
>Reading isn't your talent it is
>it? Both are done
>by nut jobs and the
>difference is that if a
>white guy with a gun
>goes on a killing spree
>you all gather around ole
>Wayne and make him the
>pivot man in your circle
>jerk. A nut job
>Somali goes off and you
>blame an entire race and
>religion. Your bigotry is
>showing there.
>
>I know they are brown and
>don't matter to you but
> you should not fear
>everything.
>
>Nemont
LMAOF!
NeMont
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>Nemont, we raised our kids to
>value hard work to get
>ahead and family comes first,
>and they are raising their
>kids in the same values.
>The wife and I are
>not worried about being put
>in a nursing home by
>our kids.
> Sounds like you
>may be worried about your
>kids slapping your butt in
>a nursing home and forgetting
>about you.
>
>
>
>
>
> RELH
>
Good on ya,I raised my kids the same, all three will be highly successful and productive. Not worried a bit about who is going to care for me.
Eelgrass Says your kids and grand kids ain't worth a sh!t because the use their phones. I know mine all are hard workers and one reason it is hard for them to save is all the taxes they have to pay to transfer their wealth from their pockets to the boomers pockets. Look up intergenerational wealth transfer and then name a person older than 62 who supports ending it. At some point the young are going to realize that they were lied to by their grand parents and decide to take care of themselves and their children first.
Nemont
>value hard work to get
>ahead and family comes first,
>and they are raising their
>kids in the same values.
>The wife and I are
>not worried about being put
>in a nursing home by
>our kids.
> Sounds like you
>may be worried about your
>kids slapping your butt in
>a nursing home and forgetting
>about you.
>
>
>
>
>
> RELH
>
Good on ya,I raised my kids the same, all three will be highly successful and productive. Not worried a bit about who is going to care for me.
Eelgrass Says your kids and grand kids ain't worth a sh!t because the use their phones. I know mine all are hard workers and one reason it is hard for them to save is all the taxes they have to pay to transfer their wealth from their pockets to the boomers pockets. Look up intergenerational wealth transfer and then name a person older than 62 who supports ending it. At some point the young are going to realize that they were lied to by their grand parents and decide to take care of themselves and their children first.
Nemont
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Nemont that generation Eel is talking about is that generation that I refer to as the "Me-Me" generation that stays glued to a cell phone. Most of them only cares for themselves and their parents will end up in a nursing home that is the cheapest bargain.
Their problem was the lousy parents that raised them and made them into the Me-Me generation and maybe the parents will reap the rewards of raising such selfish heathens.
I am willing to bet Eel was probably talking about your kids and grandkids and not mine.
RELH
Their problem was the lousy parents that raised them and made them into the Me-Me generation and maybe the parents will reap the rewards of raising such selfish heathens.
I am willing to bet Eel was probably talking about your kids and grandkids and not mine.
RELH
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I think my reading skills are fine Nemont. Your writing skills were lacking this time.
My daughter and her husband are both hard workers. They own a 4 bedroom house with two sons in college and a third one with a 4.2 GPA in high school. I don't need or want them to take care of me. That's what the insurance is for.
My daughter and her husband are both hard workers. They own a 4 bedroom house with two sons in college and a third one with a 4.2 GPA in high school. I don't need or want them to take care of me. That's what the insurance is for.
>I think my reading skills are
>fine Nemont. Your writing skills
>were lacking this time.
>
>My daughter and her husband are
>both hard workers. They own
>a 4 bedroom house with
>two sons in college and
>a third one with a
>4.2 GPA in high school.
>I don't need or want
>them to take care of
>me. That's what the insurance
>is for.
+1
>fine Nemont. Your writing skills
>were lacking this time.
>
>My daughter and her husband are
>both hard workers. They own
>a 4 bedroom house with
>two sons in college and
>a third one with a
>4.2 GPA in high school.
>I don't need or want
>them to take care of
>me. That's what the insurance
>is for.
+1
>He wasn't talking about my kids
>and I am to young
>to have grand kids.
>
>The boomers are the ultimate Me-Me
>generation they have spent
>what they made and had
>Uncle Sam borrow another $20
>Trillions to keep them in
>depends and hard on pills.
>
>
>Nemont
All 20 trillion?
>and I am to young
>to have grand kids.
>
>The boomers are the ultimate Me-Me
>generation they have spent
>what they made and had
>Uncle Sam borrow another $20
>Trillions to keep them in
>depends and hard on pills.
>
>
>Nemont
All 20 trillion?
NeMont
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Really? Let me ask you this question, if you have long term care insurance for the Nursing home, who do you think is going to staff those facilities? Most nursing homes have limited RN coverage and rely on the 20 somethings to be the CNA's. All the insurance in the world isn't going to matter if the 20 Somethings are only worried about their phones as you claim and about themselves as RELH claims.
Your kids are a success and how many of them got a "free" college degree? The painting with a broad brush that all millenials are lazy, self absorbed and not working is a fallacy that the Boomers continue to hold onto.
How about cut them some slack and advocate of policies that would allow more of them to access the American dream? Why is this next generation, the children and grand children of the boomers going to be the first generation of Americans to not have the same chances as the previous generations?
Name a social program aimed at those over age 62 any of you are willing to cut. You all seem willing to blow up Obamacare: it doesn't really affect seniors, blow up education: that doesn't affect seniors, end welfare: that doesn't affect seniors, you guys are willing to end funding for everyone but elderly.
Overton,
Let's see the last president from the Greatest Generation was GHWB whose term ended in January of 1993. On that Date he gave the reigns of the country to the first president from the boomer generation, the debt stood at $4.4 Trillion, after three boomer presidents our national debt today is $19.9 Trillion. So I guess I will grant you that of that only $15.5 has been rung up by boomer presidents or 77.9% of our National debt can be attributed to boomer presidents. Does that make you feel better?
Nemont
Your kids are a success and how many of them got a "free" college degree? The painting with a broad brush that all millenials are lazy, self absorbed and not working is a fallacy that the Boomers continue to hold onto.
How about cut them some slack and advocate of policies that would allow more of them to access the American dream? Why is this next generation, the children and grand children of the boomers going to be the first generation of Americans to not have the same chances as the previous generations?
Name a social program aimed at those over age 62 any of you are willing to cut. You all seem willing to blow up Obamacare: it doesn't really affect seniors, blow up education: that doesn't affect seniors, end welfare: that doesn't affect seniors, you guys are willing to end funding for everyone but elderly.
Overton,
Let's see the last president from the Greatest Generation was GHWB whose term ended in January of 1993. On that Date he gave the reigns of the country to the first president from the boomer generation, the debt stood at $4.4 Trillion, after three boomer presidents our national debt today is $19.9 Trillion. So I guess I will grant you that of that only $15.5 has been rung up by boomer presidents or 77.9% of our National debt can be attributed to boomer presidents. Does that make you feel better?
Nemont
>Really? Let me ask you
>this question, if you have
>long term care insurance for
>the Nursing home, who do
>you think is going to
>staff those facilities?
>Most nursing homes have limited
>RN coverage and rely on
>the 20 somethings to be
>the CNA's. All the
>insurance in the world isn't
>going to matter if the
>20 Somethings are only worried
>about their phones as you
>claim and about themselves as
>RELH claims.
>
>Your kids are a success and
>how many of them got
>a "free" college degree?
> The painting with a
>broad brush that all millenials
>are lazy, self absorbed and
>not working is a fallacy
>that the Boomers continue to
>hold onto.
>
>How about cut them some slack
>and advocate of policies that
>would allow more of them
>to access the American dream?
> Why is this next
>generation, the children and grand
>children of the boomers going
>to be the first generation
>of Americans to not have
>the same chances as the
>previous generations?
>
>Name a social program aimed at
>those over age 62 any
>of you are willing to
>cut. You all seem
>willing to blow up Obamacare:
>it doesn't really affect seniors,
>blow up education: that doesn't
>affect seniors, end welfare: that
>doesn't affect seniors, you
>guys are willing to end
>funding for everyone but elderly.
>
>
>
>
>
>Overton,
>
>Let's see the last president from
>the Greatest Generation was GHWB
>whose term ended in January
>of 1993. On
>that Date he gave the
>reigns of the country to
>the first president from the
>boomer generation, the debt stood
>at $4.4 Trillion, after three
>boomer presidents our national debt
>today is $19.9 Trillion.
>So I guess I will
>grant you that of that
> only $15.5 has been
>rung up by boomer presidents
>or 77.9% of our National
>debt can be attributed to
>boomer presidents.
>Does that make you feel
>better?
>
>Nemont
Just trying to help you with accuracy
>this question, if you have
>long term care insurance for
>the Nursing home, who do
>you think is going to
>staff those facilities?
>Most nursing homes have limited
>RN coverage and rely on
>the 20 somethings to be
>the CNA's. All the
>insurance in the world isn't
>going to matter if the
>20 Somethings are only worried
>about their phones as you
>claim and about themselves as
>RELH claims.
>
>Your kids are a success and
>how many of them got
>a "free" college degree?
> The painting with a
>broad brush that all millenials
>are lazy, self absorbed and
>not working is a fallacy
>that the Boomers continue to
>hold onto.
>
>How about cut them some slack
>and advocate of policies that
>would allow more of them
>to access the American dream?
> Why is this next
>generation, the children and grand
>children of the boomers going
>to be the first generation
>of Americans to not have
>the same chances as the
>previous generations?
>
>Name a social program aimed at
>those over age 62 any
>of you are willing to
>cut. You all seem
>willing to blow up Obamacare:
>it doesn't really affect seniors,
>blow up education: that doesn't
>affect seniors, end welfare: that
>doesn't affect seniors, you
>guys are willing to end
>funding for everyone but elderly.
>
>
>
>
>
>Overton,
>
>Let's see the last president from
>the Greatest Generation was GHWB
>whose term ended in January
>of 1993. On
>that Date he gave the
>reigns of the country to
>the first president from the
>boomer generation, the debt stood
>at $4.4 Trillion, after three
>boomer presidents our national debt
>today is $19.9 Trillion.
>So I guess I will
>grant you that of that
> only $15.5 has been
>rung up by boomer presidents
>or 77.9% of our National
>debt can be attributed to
>boomer presidents.
>Does that make you feel
>better?
>
>Nemont
Just trying to help you with accuracy
>Thanks, I guess just three quarters
>of the $19.9 trillion of
>the debt absolves boomers of
>any responsibility. We should
>pile more onto the shoulders
>of the those lazy, good
>for nothing grand kids of
>yours.
>
>
>
>Nemont
Nemont you seem to find it hard to be civil. That last post speaks volumes about your character
>of the $19.9 trillion of
>the debt absolves boomers of
>any responsibility. We should
>pile more onto the shoulders
>of the those lazy, good
>for nothing grand kids of
>yours.
>
>
>
>Nemont
Nemont you seem to find it hard to be civil. That last post speaks volumes about your character
NeMont
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Overton,
What was uncivil about it? Facts bother you? I was told by RELH that you can not discern anyone's character by what they post because, "you don't know me". I guess my question to you is, when did we meet?
Can you go up and look at who the boomers on here want to denigrate? They seem to lack the understanding of what the next generation faces in regards to the debt. Then they say, "well I have insurance to take care of me", without thinking about who are the ones who actually will be, literally, taking care of them in those homes they have insurance for.
I am all for a civil discussion of the matter, let me know when you want to have one. There are serious issues ahead and getting a good open discussion going about them is almost impossible here. Few want to hear about what needs to happen and even fewer are willing to support it if it means their ox gets gored.
Nemont
What was uncivil about it? Facts bother you? I was told by RELH that you can not discern anyone's character by what they post because, "you don't know me". I guess my question to you is, when did we meet?
Can you go up and look at who the boomers on here want to denigrate? They seem to lack the understanding of what the next generation faces in regards to the debt. Then they say, "well I have insurance to take care of me", without thinking about who are the ones who actually will be, literally, taking care of them in those homes they have insurance for.
I am all for a civil discussion of the matter, let me know when you want to have one. There are serious issues ahead and getting a good open discussion going about them is almost impossible here. Few want to hear about what needs to happen and even fewer are willing to support it if it means their ox gets gored.
Nemont
>Overton,
>
>What was uncivil about it?
>Facts bother you? I
>was told by RELH that
>you can not discern anyone's
>character by what they post
>because, "you don't know me".
> I guess my
>question to you is, when
>did we meet?
>
>Can you go up and look
>at who the boomers on
>here want to denigrate?
>They seem to lack the
>understanding of what the next
>generation faces in regards to
>the debt. Then they
>say, "well I have insurance
>to take care of me",
> without thinking about who
>are the ones who actually
>will be, literally, taking care
>of them in those homes
>they have insurance for.
>
>I am all for a civil
>discussion of the matter, let
>me know when you want
>to have one. There
>are serious issues ahead and
>getting a good open discussion
>going about them is almost
>impossible here. Few want
>to hear about what needs
>to happen and even fewer
>are willing to support it
>if it means their ox
>gets gored.
>
>Nemont
>
>
What about the comment about my lazy good for nothing grandkids ?
Do you find that civil ?
>
>What was uncivil about it?
>Facts bother you? I
>was told by RELH that
>you can not discern anyone's
>character by what they post
>because, "you don't know me".
> I guess my
>question to you is, when
>did we meet?
>
>Can you go up and look
>at who the boomers on
>here want to denigrate?
>They seem to lack the
>understanding of what the next
>generation faces in regards to
>the debt. Then they
>say, "well I have insurance
>to take care of me",
> without thinking about who
>are the ones who actually
>will be, literally, taking care
>of them in those homes
>they have insurance for.
>
>I am all for a civil
>discussion of the matter, let
>me know when you want
>to have one. There
>are serious issues ahead and
>getting a good open discussion
>going about them is almost
>impossible here. Few want
>to hear about what needs
>to happen and even fewer
>are willing to support it
>if it means their ox
>gets gored.
>
>Nemont
>
>
What about the comment about my lazy good for nothing grandkids ?
Do you find that civil ?
NeMont
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Have you taken to task any of your brethren on here who denigrate the next generation? Why call out me only and not eel? He is the one who said all millenials are lazy phone watchers, not me. Never heard a peep from you about that comment so I just assumed you agreed.
If you think your offspring and grand children deserve a chance at the American dream then good.
Nemont
If you think your offspring and grand children deserve a chance at the American dream then good.
Nemont
>Have you taken to task any
>of your brethren on here
>who denigrate the next generation?
> Why call out me
>only and not eel?
>He is the one who
>said all millenials are lazy
>phone watchers, not me.
>Never heard a peep from
>you about that comment so
>I just assumed you agreed.
>
>
>If you think your offspring and
>grand children deserve a chance
>at the American dream then
>good.
>
>Nemont
Not one of them ever called my grandchildren lazy good for nothing.
You had my respect until today.
>of your brethren on here
>who denigrate the next generation?
> Why call out me
>only and not eel?
>He is the one who
>said all millenials are lazy
>phone watchers, not me.
>Never heard a peep from
>you about that comment so
>I just assumed you agreed.
>
>
>If you think your offspring and
>grand children deserve a chance
>at the American dream then
>good.
>
>Nemont
Not one of them ever called my grandchildren lazy good for nothing.
You had my respect until today.
NeMont
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Do you really believe I was specifically calling YOUR kids and grand kids lazy and good for nothing? Who do you think eel was talking about with his statement? So as long as it is just stated as "millenials are lazy and no good" you are fine with that? Unless you are WAY older than I think, all those phone watchers he hates are your children and grand children.
I suspect me losing your respect will have to just be one more person I don't have any contact with except on here who doesn't respect me. I wonder if the sun will come up tomorrow and my office will still be able to function?
The attitude that boomers have is amazing to me. What percentage of our federal budget goes to fund programs for those over the age of 60 and what goes to fund those under the age of 30? Yet stating the that all millenials are lazy and good for nothing is fine, saying piling debt on your grand children from the say generation makes your feelers get hurt. That is truly a weird sense of what is right and wrong.
Nemont
I suspect me losing your respect will have to just be one more person I don't have any contact with except on here who doesn't respect me. I wonder if the sun will come up tomorrow and my office will still be able to function?
The attitude that boomers have is amazing to me. What percentage of our federal budget goes to fund programs for those over the age of 60 and what goes to fund those under the age of 30? Yet stating the that all millenials are lazy and good for nothing is fine, saying piling debt on your grand children from the say generation makes your feelers get hurt. That is truly a weird sense of what is right and wrong.
Nemont
>Do you really believe I was
>specifically calling YOUR kids and
>grand kids lazy and good
>for nothing? Who do
>you think eel was talking
>about with his statement? So
>as long as it is
>just stated as "millenials are
>lazy and no good" you
>are fine with that?
> Unless you are WAY
>older than I think, all
>those phone watchers he hates
>are your children and grand
>children.
>
> I suspect me losing your
>respect will have to just
>be one more person I
>don't have any contact with
>except on here who doesn't
>respect me. I
>wonder if the sun will
>come up tomorrow and my
>office will still be able
>to function?
>
>The attitude that boomers have is
>amazing to me. What
>percentage of our federal budget
>goes to fund programs for
>those over the age of
>60 and what goes to
>fund those under the age
>of 30? Yet
>stating the that all millenials
>are lazy and good for
>nothing is fine, saying piling
>debt on your grand children
>from the say generation makes
>your feelers get hurt.
>That is truly a weird
>sense of what is right
>and wrong.
>
>Nemont
It was in the same paragraph so yes I do.
But you are doing a terrific job of diversion like most liberals
>specifically calling YOUR kids and
>grand kids lazy and good
>for nothing? Who do
>you think eel was talking
>about with his statement? So
>as long as it is
>just stated as "millenials are
>lazy and no good" you
>are fine with that?
> Unless you are WAY
>older than I think, all
>those phone watchers he hates
>are your children and grand
>children.
>
> I suspect me losing your
>respect will have to just
>be one more person I
>don't have any contact with
>except on here who doesn't
>respect me. I
>wonder if the sun will
>come up tomorrow and my
>office will still be able
>to function?
>
>The attitude that boomers have is
>amazing to me. What
>percentage of our federal budget
>goes to fund programs for
>those over the age of
>60 and what goes to
>fund those under the age
>of 30? Yet
>stating the that all millenials
>are lazy and good for
>nothing is fine, saying piling
>debt on your grand children
>from the say generation makes
>your feelers get hurt.
>That is truly a weird
>sense of what is right
>and wrong.
>
>Nemont
It was in the same paragraph so yes I do.
But you are doing a terrific job of diversion like most liberals
NeMont
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Surprised you didn't also call me a Nazi, too. I guess if it makes me a liberal for wanting to reduce our debt and spending so the next generation does not to have to serve their adult working lives in debt prison, then so be it.
You are welcome to not have any respect for me and I will hold the same opinion of you. That has solved one problem, now explain to me what programs that go to the elderly, that your grand children will get the bill for, are you willing to cut or defund or end?
I know I will get the canned answer that the elderly paid for it through your taxes therefore they deserve it and we need to cut everywhere else but medicare and social security. So have at it and tell me again how much I am a liberal for wanting to reduce the growth of government, stem the tide of red ink, cut spending on everything and get health care cost down to a reasonable level.
Nemont
You are welcome to not have any respect for me and I will hold the same opinion of you. That has solved one problem, now explain to me what programs that go to the elderly, that your grand children will get the bill for, are you willing to cut or defund or end?
I know I will get the canned answer that the elderly paid for it through your taxes therefore they deserve it and we need to cut everywhere else but medicare and social security. So have at it and tell me again how much I am a liberal for wanting to reduce the growth of government, stem the tide of red ink, cut spending on everything and get health care cost down to a reasonable level.
Nemont
>Surprised you didn't also call me
>a Nazi, too. I
>guess if it makes
>me a liberal for wanting
>to reduce our debt and
>spending so the next generation
>does not to have
>to serve their adult working
> lives in debt prison,
>then so be it.
>
>You are welcome to not have
>any respect for me and
>I will hold the same
>opinion of you. That
>has solved one problem, now
>explain to me what programs
>that go to the elderly,
>that your grand children will
>get the bill for, are
>you willing to cut or
>defund or end?
>
>I know I will get the
>canned answer that the elderly
>paid for it through your
>taxes therefore they deserve it
>and we need to cut
>everywhere else but medicare and
>social security. So have
>at it and tell me
>again how much I am
>a liberal for wanting to
>reduce the growth of government,
>stem the tide of red
>ink, cut spending on everything
>and get health care cost
>down to a reasonable level.
>
>
>Nemont
>
>
What ever you say Genius
>a Nazi, too. I
>guess if it makes
>me a liberal for wanting
>to reduce our debt and
>spending so the next generation
>does not to have
>to serve their adult working
> lives in debt prison,
>then so be it.
>
>You are welcome to not have
>any respect for me and
>I will hold the same
>opinion of you. That
>has solved one problem, now
>explain to me what programs
>that go to the elderly,
>that your grand children will
>get the bill for, are
>you willing to cut or
>defund or end?
>
>I know I will get the
>canned answer that the elderly
>paid for it through your
>taxes therefore they deserve it
>and we need to cut
>everywhere else but medicare and
>social security. So have
>at it and tell me
>again how much I am
>a liberal for wanting to
>reduce the growth of government,
>stem the tide of red
>ink, cut spending on everything
>and get health care cost
>down to a reasonable level.
>
>
>Nemont
>
>
What ever you say Genius
NeMont
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Really, I attacked you? If my post is viewed by you as an attack then you may want to grow a thicker skin.
Anyway I am sorry for real that you took it personal and believed I was specifically saying YOUR grand kids, it wasn't what I meant but believe as you wish. So you can have what ever opinion of me you want, that and $5.50 will get you a cup of coffee at any Starbucks.
No discussion of how to deal with our ballooning debt, our out of control health care costs, our antiquated tax system and how to fairly spread the burden of paying for it all.
Wonder what makes me uncivil? I know what does is how often the older guys on here want to throw the generation my kids are in under the bus and say they are all lazy, when I know mine were taught a work ethic, their friends mostly all work and yet they get painted with the same brush. Makes me uncivil on here.
Have a great day,
Nemont
Anyway I am sorry for real that you took it personal and believed I was specifically saying YOUR grand kids, it wasn't what I meant but believe as you wish. So you can have what ever opinion of me you want, that and $5.50 will get you a cup of coffee at any Starbucks.
No discussion of how to deal with our ballooning debt, our out of control health care costs, our antiquated tax system and how to fairly spread the burden of paying for it all.
Wonder what makes me uncivil? I know what does is how often the older guys on here want to throw the generation my kids are in under the bus and say they are all lazy, when I know mine were taught a work ethic, their friends mostly all work and yet they get painted with the same brush. Makes me uncivil on here.
Have a great day,
Nemont
>Really, I attacked you? If
>my post is viewed by
>you as an attack then
>you may want to grow
>a thicker skin.
>
>Anyway I am sorry for real
>that you took it personal
>and believed I was specifically
>saying YOUR grand kids, it
>wasn't what I meant but
>believe as you wish.
>So you can have what
>ever opinion of me you
>want, that and $5.50 will
>get you a cup of
>coffee at any Starbucks.
>
>No discussion of how to deal
>with our ballooning debt, our
>out of control health care
>costs, our antiquated tax system
>and how to fairly spread
>the burden of paying for
>it all.
>
>Wonder what makes me uncivil?
> I know what does
>is how often the older
>guys on here want to
>throw the generation my kids
>are in under the bus
>and say they are all
>lazy, when I know mine
>were taught a work ethic,
>their friends mostly all work
>and yet they get painted
>with the same brush.
> Makes me uncivil on
>here.
>
>Have a great day,
>
>Nemont
What ever you say Genius
>my post is viewed by
>you as an attack then
>you may want to grow
>a thicker skin.
>
>Anyway I am sorry for real
>that you took it personal
>and believed I was specifically
>saying YOUR grand kids, it
>wasn't what I meant but
>believe as you wish.
>So you can have what
>ever opinion of me you
>want, that and $5.50 will
>get you a cup of
>coffee at any Starbucks.
>
>No discussion of how to deal
>with our ballooning debt, our
>out of control health care
>costs, our antiquated tax system
>and how to fairly spread
>the burden of paying for
>it all.
>
>Wonder what makes me uncivil?
> I know what does
>is how often the older
>guys on here want to
>throw the generation my kids
>are in under the bus
>and say they are all
>lazy, when I know mine
>were taught a work ethic,
>their friends mostly all work
>and yet they get painted
>with the same brush.
> Makes me uncivil on
>here.
>
>Have a great day,
>
>Nemont
What ever you say Genius
eelgrass
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Let me clarify. Not all millennial's are worthless. There could be upwards of 1000 nation wide who have a sense of responsibility.
I didn't look it up but I'm sure millennials overwhelmingly voted for Hillary/Obama's 3rd term. They think we can borrow our way to prosperity, or they think they can pass the debt down to their own kids and grandkids. Why couldn't they? That's what their parents taught them.
I didn't look it up but I'm sure millennials overwhelmingly voted for Hillary/Obama's 3rd term. They think we can borrow our way to prosperity, or they think they can pass the debt down to their own kids and grandkids. Why couldn't they? That's what their parents taught them.
NeMont
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-29-16 AT 12:29PM (MST)[p]>Let me clarify. Not all millennial's
>are worthless. There could be
>upwards of 1000 nation wide
>who have a sense of
>responsibility.
>
>I didn't look it up but
>I'm sure millennials overwhelmingly voted
>for Hillary/Obama's 3rd term. They
>think we can borrow our
>way to prosperity, or they
>think they can pass the
>debt down to their own
>kids and grandkids. Why couldn't
>they? That's what their parents
>taught them.
Yep there are only 1,000 millennials who work in the whole country and who believe in personal Responsibility.
You shouldn't pretend that there weren't millions of boomers also wanted to keep their freebies and supported Hillary as well. It is easy to care more about the past then about the future when you already have yours and don't need further education and opportunities.
Quote:
"Trump strongly appeals to an older cohort who are proud and nostalgic about their nation?s history and less dependent on jobs and education. Young people disheartened today will just have to suck it up and drastically improve their turnout in four years."
>are worthless. There could be
>upwards of 1000 nation wide
>who have a sense of
>responsibility.
>
>I didn't look it up but
>I'm sure millennials overwhelmingly voted
>for Hillary/Obama's 3rd term. They
>think we can borrow our
>way to prosperity, or they
>think they can pass the
>debt down to their own
>kids and grandkids. Why couldn't
>they? That's what their parents
>taught them.
Yep there are only 1,000 millennials who work in the whole country and who believe in personal Responsibility.
You shouldn't pretend that there weren't millions of boomers also wanted to keep their freebies and supported Hillary as well. It is easy to care more about the past then about the future when you already have yours and don't need further education and opportunities.
Quote:
"Trump strongly appeals to an older cohort who are proud and nostalgic about their nation?s history and less dependent on jobs and education. Young people disheartened today will just have to suck it up and drastically improve their turnout in four years."
Stonefly
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EEL, I dont think you can convince newly of anything real, after all he is still useing polls and charts to prove his point. Didnt learn anything from the polls and charts that let them down last time did they. I do think eel, your numbers might be a little low, i would like a chart of millenial voting % from just states like Utah,Wyoming,..and you could add Texas ,just in the interest of fairness ...right. BTW newly does a great job at missdirection, this started out as a thread about a wanna be murderer P.O.S. who thought it was the countries responsibility to provide him a place to pray. He must just have been confused, after all the country picked up the cost for him and his family sence they came here seeking refuge. How horrible it must have been for him. To be the only religion the government wont provide a place for his services.... oh wait... how many religions Do the government provide this to.... He " didnt feel safe". Then why continue to seek refuge here, why does anyone seek " refuge " if not to feel safe?
NeMont
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Stonecry,
Let see your numbers if mine are wrong. Misdirection? look at how many fakers took the bait.
>I'll take a 25% cut in
>SS and Medicare benefits if
>all vets and Federal employees,
>including Congress, will take the
>same cuts in their benefits
>and retirement. Like that would
>ever happen.
I see, so as long as we cut the veterans first then maybe you would be willing to share in some pain. How very patriotic of you. How did the veterans earn it less then you did?
Why not take a bold step and put congress on notice that you are serious about the debt an d will take less, then put pressure on everyone else, you know like leading by example?
Nemont
Let see your numbers if mine are wrong. Misdirection? look at how many fakers took the bait.
>I'll take a 25% cut in
>SS and Medicare benefits if
>all vets and Federal employees,
>including Congress, will take the
>same cuts in their benefits
>and retirement. Like that would
>ever happen.
I see, so as long as we cut the veterans first then maybe you would be willing to share in some pain. How very patriotic of you. How did the veterans earn it less then you did?
Why not take a bold step and put congress on notice that you are serious about the debt an d will take less, then put pressure on everyone else, you know like leading by example?
Nemont
>
>Stonecry,
>
>Let see your numbers if mine
>are wrong. Misdirection?
>look at how many fakers
>took the bait.
>
>
>>I'll take a 25% cut in
>>SS and Medicare benefits if
>>all vets and Federal employees,
>>including Congress, will take the
>>same cuts in their benefits
>>and retirement. Like that would
>>ever happen.
>
>
>I see, so as long
>as we cut the veterans
>first then maybe you would
>be willing to share in
>some pain. How very
>patriotic of you.
>How did the veterans earn
>it less then you did?
>
>
>Why not take a bold step
>and put congress on notice
>that you are serious about
>the debt an d will
>take less, then put pressure
>on everyone else, you
>know like leading by example?
>
>
>Nemont
or we could audit where all that money went get it back.
>Stonecry,
>
>Let see your numbers if mine
>are wrong. Misdirection?
>look at how many fakers
>took the bait.
>
>
>>I'll take a 25% cut in
>>SS and Medicare benefits if
>>all vets and Federal employees,
>>including Congress, will take the
>>same cuts in their benefits
>>and retirement. Like that would
>>ever happen.
>
>
>I see, so as long
>as we cut the veterans
>first then maybe you would
>be willing to share in
>some pain. How very
>patriotic of you.
>How did the veterans earn
>it less then you did?
>
>
>Why not take a bold step
>and put congress on notice
>that you are serious about
>the debt an d will
>take less, then put pressure
>on everyone else, you
>know like leading by example?
>
>
>Nemont
or we could audit where all that money went get it back.
RELH
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Nemont do not let your inflated ego overload your A$$. As for several of those baby boomer Presidents that inflated the budget, they were Democrats that most of us did not vote for. Admit it you do not like the baby boomer generation and we feel you are a Adam Henry with a over inflated ego. End of story.
RELH
RELH
>Nemont do not let your inflated
>ego overload your A$$. As
>for several of those baby
>boomer Presidents that inflated the
>budget, they were Democrats that
>most of us did not
>vote for. Admit it you
>do not like the baby
>boomer generation and we feel
>you are a Adam Henry
>with a over inflated ego.
>End of story.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> RELH
>
>
Cuz you forgot to add genius
>ego overload your A$$. As
>for several of those baby
>boomer Presidents that inflated the
>budget, they were Democrats that
>most of us did not
>vote for. Admit it you
>do not like the baby
>boomer generation and we feel
>you are a Adam Henry
>with a over inflated ego.
>End of story.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> RELH
>
>
Cuz you forgot to add genius
NeMont
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How do you explain the doubling of the debt between 2001 and 2008 when there was complete Republican control of the House, Senate and White House for six of those years?
In January of 2001 the debt was $5.7 Trillion in Jan of 2009 when GWB left it was $10.9 Trillion. Seems like both sides love to spend.
It has zero to do with my ego and everything to do with math. I know the low hanging fruit hates charts and graphs so I will throw in a couple just to annoy.
So 63% of all federal spending is on auto pilot as "mandatory"
Of that mandatory spending 87% goes to medicare and Social Security.
I have yet to find one boomer who is willing to give up their entitlements, which is fine. What chaps my hide is for those same boomers to turn around and call the generation who is going to be stuck with the bill, a bunch of dead beats and lazy a$$es. While the boomers enjoyed the largest economic boom in world history, they are leaving behind a mountain of debt and a looming crisis that they won't have to fix. At the very least you could do is not denigrate the people who just by birth come into this world owing $154,000 already and more being added to the credit card daily.
But it is like talking to a wall, everyone gets their feelers hurt by facts and boomers whine like little girls that they don't have any responsibility for the debt and spending. All while taking with both hands and demanding the next generation gets off the butts and works.
In January of 2001 the debt was $5.7 Trillion in Jan of 2009 when GWB left it was $10.9 Trillion. Seems like both sides love to spend.
It has zero to do with my ego and everything to do with math. I know the low hanging fruit hates charts and graphs so I will throw in a couple just to annoy.
So 63% of all federal spending is on auto pilot as "mandatory"
Of that mandatory spending 87% goes to medicare and Social Security.
I have yet to find one boomer who is willing to give up their entitlements, which is fine. What chaps my hide is for those same boomers to turn around and call the generation who is going to be stuck with the bill, a bunch of dead beats and lazy a$$es. While the boomers enjoyed the largest economic boom in world history, they are leaving behind a mountain of debt and a looming crisis that they won't have to fix. At the very least you could do is not denigrate the people who just by birth come into this world owing $154,000 already and more being added to the credit card daily.
But it is like talking to a wall, everyone gets their feelers hurt by facts and boomers whine like little girls that they don't have any responsibility for the debt and spending. All while taking with both hands and demanding the next generation gets off the butts and works.
>How do you explain the doubling
>of the debt between 2001
>and 2008 when there was
>complete Republican control of the
>House, Senate and White House
>for six of those years?
>
>
>In January of 2001 the debt
>was $5.7 Trillion in Jan
>of 2009 when GWB left
>it was $10.9 Trillion.
> Seems like both sides
>love to spend.
>
>
>It has zero to do with
>my ego and everything to
>do with math. I
>know the low hanging fruit
>hates charts and graphs so
>I will throw in a
>couple just to annoy.
>
>So 63% of all federal spending
>is on auto pilot as
>"mandatory"
>
>
>
>Of that mandatory spending 87% goes
>to medicare and Social Security.
>
>
>
>
> I have yet to find
>one boomer who is willing
>to give up their entitlements,
>which is fine. What
>chaps my hide is for
>those same boomers to turn
>around and call the generation
>who is going to be
>stuck with the bill, a
>bunch of dead beats and
>lazy a$$es. While the
>boomers enjoyed the largest economic
>boom in world history, they
>are leaving behind a mountain
>of debt and a looming
>crisis that they won't have
>to fix. At the
>very least you could do
>is not denigrate the people
>who just by birth come
>into this world owing $154,000
>already and more being added
>to the credit card daily.
>
>
>But it is like talking to
>a wall, everyone gets their
>feelers hurt by facts and
>boomers whine like little girls
>that they don't have any
>responsibility for the debt and
>spending. All while
>taking with both hands and
>demanding the next generation gets
>off the butts and works.
>
How much is stolen from Social Security and Medicade and so on?
>of the debt between 2001
>and 2008 when there was
>complete Republican control of the
>House, Senate and White House
>for six of those years?
>
>
>In January of 2001 the debt
>was $5.7 Trillion in Jan
>of 2009 when GWB left
>it was $10.9 Trillion.
> Seems like both sides
>love to spend.
>
>
>It has zero to do with
>my ego and everything to
>do with math. I
>know the low hanging fruit
>hates charts and graphs so
>I will throw in a
>couple just to annoy.
>
>So 63% of all federal spending
>is on auto pilot as
>"mandatory"
>
>
>
>Of that mandatory spending 87% goes
>to medicare and Social Security.
>
>
>
>
> I have yet to find
>one boomer who is willing
>to give up their entitlements,
>which is fine. What
>chaps my hide is for
>those same boomers to turn
>around and call the generation
>who is going to be
>stuck with the bill, a
>bunch of dead beats and
>lazy a$$es. While the
>boomers enjoyed the largest economic
>boom in world history, they
>are leaving behind a mountain
>of debt and a looming
>crisis that they won't have
>to fix. At the
>very least you could do
>is not denigrate the people
>who just by birth come
>into this world owing $154,000
>already and more being added
>to the credit card daily.
>
>
>But it is like talking to
>a wall, everyone gets their
>feelers hurt by facts and
>boomers whine like little girls
>that they don't have any
>responsibility for the debt and
>spending. All while
>taking with both hands and
>demanding the next generation gets
>off the butts and works.
>
How much is stolen from Social Security and Medicade and so on?
NeMont
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-29-16 AT 09:14PM (MST)[p]Depends. It also matters sometimes if you are Vietnam era vet, served in Southwest Asia from 1990 to 1998 or in were in after 2003. Your priority for care changes if you have a service connected disability or impairment, earned a purple heart, diagnosed with PTSD etc, etc.
Generally if you have an honorable discharge and served your required length of time then you are eligible for something.
Nemont
Generally if you have an honorable discharge and served your required length of time then you are eligible for something.
Nemont
1911
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Nemont,
You are correct that someone killed, mangled, or otherwise, whether committed by a refugee or a home grown killer is a tragedy. The difference is, the home grown killer cannot be removed safely away from a peaceable society until his own actions of criminality allow the justice system to lock him away. The refugee on the other hand, is quite different. Let's skip refugees altogether and focus simply on aggravated reentry criminals who come back and continue in random or often times, organized crime. When someone is victimized by someone who should not have been here, it adds a little insult to injury. To say otherwise is simply dishonest. Statistics are easy to turn a blind eye to and not wet the bed over, until it is your family.
http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforum/User_files/4abc76ff29b26fc1.jpg
You are correct that someone killed, mangled, or otherwise, whether committed by a refugee or a home grown killer is a tragedy. The difference is, the home grown killer cannot be removed safely away from a peaceable society until his own actions of criminality allow the justice system to lock him away. The refugee on the other hand, is quite different. Let's skip refugees altogether and focus simply on aggravated reentry criminals who come back and continue in random or often times, organized crime. When someone is victimized by someone who should not have been here, it adds a little insult to injury. To say otherwise is simply dishonest. Statistics are easy to turn a blind eye to and not wet the bed over, until it is your family.
http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforum/User_files/4abc76ff29b26fc1.jpg
elkassassin
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I Hope Trump starts Marching these Type of Low-Life Bastards Back Home with a One Way Ticket!
They Shoulda never been let in to this Country but Thanks to Obama & Others they've Flocked in here for Years!
Send Their Sorry Asses Back Home where they'll all Feel 'Safe'!
[font color="blue"]She put a Big F.U. in My Future,Ya She's got a
way with Words[/font]
They Shoulda never been let in to this Country but Thanks to Obama & Others they've Flocked in here for Years!
Send Their Sorry Asses Back Home where they'll all Feel 'Safe'!
[font color="blue"]She put a Big F.U. in My Future,Ya She's got a
way with Words[/font]
> I Hope Trump starts Marching
>these Type of Low-Life Bastards
>Back Home with a One
>Way Ticket!
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>They Shoulda never been let in
>to this Country but Thanks
>to Obama & Others they've
>Flocked in here for Years!
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>Send Their Sorry Asses Back Home
>where they'll all Feel 'Safe'!
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>[font color="blue"]She put a Big F.U.
>in My Future,Ya She's got
>a
>way with Words[/font]
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Along with some College professors
>these Type of Low-Life Bastards
>Back Home with a One
>Way Ticket!
>
>They Shoulda never been let in
>to this Country but Thanks
>to Obama & Others they've
>Flocked in here for Years!
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>Send Their Sorry Asses Back Home
>where they'll all Feel 'Safe'!
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>in My Future,Ya She's got
>a
>way with Words[/font]
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Along with some College professors
NeMont
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-30-16 AT 09:21AM (MST)[p]Here is the fake conservative dogma and ideals on display.
If a guy is a criminal with a gun and goes on a mass killing, well he has Constitutional rights and you can't just decide to remove him from society until he commits a criminal act.
>You are correct that someone killed,
>mangled, or otherwise, whether committed
>by a refugee or a
>home grown killer is a
>tragedy. The difference is,
>the home grown killer cannot
>be removed safely away from
>a peaceable society until his
>own actions of criminality allow
>the justice system to lock
>him away.
But if you are a liberal American who doesn't buy into the Conservative agenda well, your Constitutional rights don't mean diddly squat.
>Along with some College professors
Keep telling how much you guys love America and want to return to just Constitutional rule. That one makes me laugh every time.
Can you describe the crime College professors committed to get deported from the U.S. even though they were born here and are U.S. Citizens? You have no problem defending a crazed mass murders Constitutional rights, how come not the rights of fellow peaceful Americans?
Nemont
If a guy is a criminal with a gun and goes on a mass killing, well he has Constitutional rights and you can't just decide to remove him from society until he commits a criminal act.
>You are correct that someone killed,
>mangled, or otherwise, whether committed
>by a refugee or a
>home grown killer is a
>tragedy. The difference is,
>the home grown killer cannot
>be removed safely away from
>a peaceable society until his
>own actions of criminality allow
>the justice system to lock
>him away.
But if you are a liberal American who doesn't buy into the Conservative agenda well, your Constitutional rights don't mean diddly squat.
>Along with some College professors
Keep telling how much you guys love America and want to return to just Constitutional rule. That one makes me laugh every time.
Can you describe the crime College professors committed to get deported from the U.S. even though they were born here and are U.S. Citizens? You have no problem defending a crazed mass murders Constitutional rights, how come not the rights of fellow peaceful Americans?
Nemont
>LAST EDITED ON Nov-30-16
>AT 09:21?AM (MST)
>
>Here is the fake conservative dogma
>and ideals on display.
>
>If a guy is a criminal
>with a gun and goes
>on a mass killing, well
>he has Constitutional rights and
>you can't just decide to
>remove him from society until
>he commits a criminal act.
>
>
>>You are correct that someone killed,
>>mangled, or otherwise, whether committed
>>by a refugee or a
>>home grown killer is a
>>tragedy. The difference is,
>>the home grown killer cannot
>>be removed safely away from
>>a peaceable society until his
>>own actions of criminality allow
>>the justice system to lock
>>him away.
>
>But if you are a liberal
>American who doesn't buy into
>the Conservative agenda well, your
>Constitutional rights don't mean diddly
>squat.
>
>>Along with some College professors
>
>Keep telling how much you guys
>love America and want to
>return to just Constitutional rule.
> That one makes me
>laugh every time.
>
>Can you describe the crime College
>professors committed to get deported
>from the U.S. even though
>they were born here and
>are U.S. Citizens?
>You have no problem defending
>a crazed mass murders Constitutional
>rights, how come not the
>rights of fellow peaceful Americans?
>
>
>Nemont
He was a US citizen but with Somalian Braines and because he refused to accept our way of life,far as Professors I think people like Bill Ayers should leave.
>AT 09:21?AM (MST)
>
>Here is the fake conservative dogma
>and ideals on display.
>
>If a guy is a criminal
>with a gun and goes
>on a mass killing, well
>he has Constitutional rights and
>you can't just decide to
>remove him from society until
>he commits a criminal act.
>
>
>>You are correct that someone killed,
>>mangled, or otherwise, whether committed
>>by a refugee or a
>>home grown killer is a
>>tragedy. The difference is,
>>the home grown killer cannot
>>be removed safely away from
>>a peaceable society until his
>>own actions of criminality allow
>>the justice system to lock
>>him away.
>
>But if you are a liberal
>American who doesn't buy into
>the Conservative agenda well, your
>Constitutional rights don't mean diddly
>squat.
>
>>Along with some College professors
>
>Keep telling how much you guys
>love America and want to
>return to just Constitutional rule.
> That one makes me
>laugh every time.
>
>Can you describe the crime College
>professors committed to get deported
>from the U.S. even though
>they were born here and
>are U.S. Citizens?
>You have no problem defending
>a crazed mass murders Constitutional
>rights, how come not the
>rights of fellow peaceful Americans?
>
>
>Nemont
He was a US citizen but with Somalian Braines and because he refused to accept our way of life,far as Professors I think people like Bill Ayers should leave.
eelgrass
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He was here legally but that doesn't make him a citizen. His Visa could be revoked at any time and he could have been deported. Carter kicked out 15,000 Iranian students by executive order.
http://www.snopes.com/jimmy-carter-banned-iranian-immigrants/
http://www.snopes.com/jimmy-carter-banned-iranian-immigrants/
NeMont
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-30-16 AT 10:42AM (MST)[p]Eel,
You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts. He was Naturalized U.S. Citizens and granted all the same protections you get.
http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/ohio...ttack-suspect-abdul-razak-ali-artan/357106858
Quote:
-20-year-old Abdul Razak Ali Artan. Artan was an Ohio State student and Somali refugee. He left his homeland with his family for Pakistan in 2007. In 2014, he became a permanent U.S. citizen, NBC News reports.
Which means that using 1911's definition: "The difference is, the home grown killer cannot be removed safely away from a peaceable society until his own actions of criminality allow the justice system to lock him away." He can't just be rounded up and sent back because he has the same rights as any of us do.
It sucks living in a Representative Republic governed by a Constitution when the people you disagree with get the same deal as you, doesn't it? Amazaing how much the Founder's understood about human nature and their ability to turn on each other.
Nemont
You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts. He was Naturalized U.S. Citizens and granted all the same protections you get.
http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/ohio...ttack-suspect-abdul-razak-ali-artan/357106858
Quote:
-20-year-old Abdul Razak Ali Artan. Artan was an Ohio State student and Somali refugee. He left his homeland with his family for Pakistan in 2007. In 2014, he became a permanent U.S. citizen, NBC News reports.
Which means that using 1911's definition: "The difference is, the home grown killer cannot be removed safely away from a peaceable society until his own actions of criminality allow the justice system to lock him away." He can't just be rounded up and sent back because he has the same rights as any of us do.
It sucks living in a Representative Republic governed by a Constitution when the people you disagree with get the same deal as you, doesn't it? Amazaing how much the Founder's understood about human nature and their ability to turn on each other.
Nemont
Homer
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-30-16 AT 12:03PM (MST)[p]I'm sure Nemont's article is correct but I have never heard the term "permanant US citizen" used.....I am more familiar with "permanent US resident"....which is certainly fully legal status, but not a "citizen".
....maybe a typo??
is this article more right??
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/11...ee-wasnt-gun-go-liberal-talking-points-417527
....maybe a typo??
is this article more right??
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/11...ee-wasnt-gun-go-liberal-talking-points-417527
NeMont
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Homer,
Only you would believe that. If I am never wrong then how come I had to pay on my bet to Glen?
To Whit:
Rights and Responsibilities of a Green Card Holder (Permanent Resident)
Your Rights as a Permanent Resident
As a permanent resident (green card holder), you have the right to:
1. Live permanently in the United States provided you do not commit any actions that would make you removable under immigration law. Since he is dead I guess removal is a mute point
2. Work in the United States at any legal work of your qualification and choosing. (Please note that some jobs will be limited to U.S. citizens for security reasons)
3. Be protected by all laws of the United States, your state of residence and local jurisdictions
Last I checked our Constitution is part of the "laws of the United States" and those extend to permanent legal residents, which this guy was.
Only you would believe that. If I am never wrong then how come I had to pay on my bet to Glen?
To Whit:
Rights and Responsibilities of a Green Card Holder (Permanent Resident)
Your Rights as a Permanent Resident
As a permanent resident (green card holder), you have the right to:
1. Live permanently in the United States provided you do not commit any actions that would make you removable under immigration law. Since he is dead I guess removal is a mute point
2. Work in the United States at any legal work of your qualification and choosing. (Please note that some jobs will be limited to U.S. citizens for security reasons)
3. Be protected by all laws of the United States, your state of residence and local jurisdictions
Last I checked our Constitution is part of the "laws of the United States" and those extend to permanent legal residents, which this guy was.
NeMont
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Okay, what is a FACT is that he was here legally and protected by the Constitution. The guy was a nut job obviously but we have nut jobs all over this country.
How do you deport those here legally when we have 10 million here illegally? Which end of the problem is the worst?
Nemont
How do you deport those here legally when we have 10 million here illegally? Which end of the problem is the worst?
Nemont
NeMont
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So guilt by association? Wasn't there another country who started down that path? Seems like one of them in Europe, elected a dude in March of 1933, 12 years later and millions of dead the world was in ruins?
If the family members had nothing to do with the act and are otherwise stand up people? You just send them back? No if's and's or but's? Doesn't seem very American. Could we do the same to any American who family member commits a mass shooting?
Nemont
If the family members had nothing to do with the act and are otherwise stand up people? You just send them back? No if's and's or but's? Doesn't seem very American. Could we do the same to any American who family member commits a mass shooting?
Nemont
elkassassin
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I'd Give every one of them a Gift!
A Free One Way F'N Ticket Back Home with a Thank You Note sayin Don't F'N Come Back!
[font color="blue"]She put a Big F.U. in My Future,Ya She's got a
way with Words[/font]
A Free One Way F'N Ticket Back Home with a Thank You Note sayin Don't F'N Come Back!
[font color="blue"]She put a Big F.U. in My Future,Ya She's got a
way with Words[/font]
eelgrass
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Nemont, you're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
Abdul Razak Ali Artan was not a citizen. He was a Lawful Permanent Resident. Research it.
http://www.kraftlaw.com/immigration-lawyer/your-rights/
Your Rights as a Lawful Permanent Resident
As a Permanent Resident you can only vote in local and state elections that do not require you to be a U.S. citizen. ... Your status in the United States is not guaranteed and certain actions may cause you to lose your green card status or be deported from the United States.
Abdul Razak Ali Artan was not a citizen. He was a Lawful Permanent Resident. Research it.
http://www.kraftlaw.com/immigration-lawyer/your-rights/
Your Rights as a Lawful Permanent Resident
As a Permanent Resident you can only vote in local and state elections that do not require you to be a U.S. citizen. ... Your status in the United States is not guaranteed and certain actions may cause you to lose your green card status or be deported from the United States.
> I'd Give every
>one of them a Gift!
>
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>A Free One Way F'N Ticket
>Back Home with a Thank
>You Note sayin Don't F'N
>Come Back!
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>[font color="blue"]She put a Big F.U.
>in My Future,Ya She's got
>a
>way with Words[/font]
>
>
Geeeez what about the sanctuary cities like San Francisco that get 20 mil a year for keeping them?
>one of them a Gift!
>
>
>A Free One Way F'N Ticket
>Back Home with a Thank
>You Note sayin Don't F'N
>Come Back!
>
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>[font color="blue"]She put a Big F.U.
>in My Future,Ya She's got
>a
>way with Words[/font]
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Geeeez what about the sanctuary cities like San Francisco that get 20 mil a year for keeping them?
>Nemont, you're entitled to your own
>opinion, but not your own
>facts.
>
>Abdul Razak Ali Artan was not
>a citizen. He was a
>Lawful Permanent Resident. Research it.
>
>
>http://www.kraftlaw.com/immigration-lawyer/your-rights/
>
>Your Rights as a Lawful Permanent
>Resident
>
>As a Permanent Resident you can
>only vote in local and
>state elections that do not
>require you to be a
>U.S. citizen. ... Your status
>in the United States is
>not guaranteed and certain actions
>may cause you to lose
>your green card status or
>be deported from the United
>States.
Yes Nemont he was going to loose his green card status and was deported with a nine mm.
>opinion, but not your own
>facts.
>
>Abdul Razak Ali Artan was not
>a citizen. He was a
>Lawful Permanent Resident. Research it.
>
>
>http://www.kraftlaw.com/immigration-lawyer/your-rights/
>
>Your Rights as a Lawful Permanent
>Resident
>
>As a Permanent Resident you can
>only vote in local and
>state elections that do not
>require you to be a
>U.S. citizen. ... Your status
>in the United States is
>not guaranteed and certain actions
>may cause you to lose
>your green card status or
>be deported from the United
>States.
Yes Nemont he was going to loose his green card status and was deported with a nine mm.
elkassassin
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>> I'd Give every
>>one of them a Gift!
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>>A Free One Way F'N Ticket
>>Back Home with a Thank
>>You Note sayin Don't F'N
>>Come Back!
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>>[font color="blue"]She put a Big F.U.
>>in My Future,Ya She's got
>>a
>>way with Words[/font]
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>
> Geeeez
>what about the sanctuary cities
>like San Francisco that get
>20 mil a year for
>keeping them?
We're Proudly gonna Go in the Hole a little Further!
[font color="blue"]She put a Big F.U. in My Future,Ya She's got a
way with Words[/font]
>>one of them a Gift!
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>>A Free One Way F'N Ticket
>>Back Home with a Thank
>>You Note sayin Don't F'N
>>Come Back!
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>>[font color="blue"]She put a Big F.U.
>>in My Future,Ya She's got
>>a
>>way with Words[/font]
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>
> Geeeez
>what about the sanctuary cities
>like San Francisco that get
>20 mil a year for
>keeping them?
We're Proudly gonna Go in the Hole a little Further!
[font color="blue"]She put a Big F.U. in My Future,Ya She's got a
way with Words[/font]
RELH
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Nemont should have read Post #55 a little more carefully and he would have seen that I stated he was given "permanent resident". Far cry from citizenship and it's protection under our constitution.
The idiot even made social media posts on tirades against this country and that should have been enough to deport him.
RELH
The idiot even made social media posts on tirades against this country and that should have been enough to deport him.
RELH
NeMont
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You all may want to go review the official rights of a permanent resident. Just reading to comic book version don't make it true.
As for math. $5.7 trillion doubled is about $11 trillion or $10.9 or $11.4. I guess if piling on trillions more debt os a good thing Bush and the Republicans showed Obama how it is done. Remember deficits don't matter ask VP Cheney
I would rather be a fake know it all rather than a fake conservative and a real know nothing. Gonna be a lot fin watching Trump break your hearts.
Anyone care to bet what our debt will be in 4 years? Watch how fast the debt limit gets raised and the borrowing keeps on going.
Let's separate the fiscal conservatives from the fakers.
Nemont
As for math. $5.7 trillion doubled is about $11 trillion or $10.9 or $11.4. I guess if piling on trillions more debt os a good thing Bush and the Republicans showed Obama how it is done. Remember deficits don't matter ask VP Cheney
I would rather be a fake know it all rather than a fake conservative and a real know nothing. Gonna be a lot fin watching Trump break your hearts.
Anyone care to bet what our debt will be in 4 years? Watch how fast the debt limit gets raised and the borrowing keeps on going.
Let's separate the fiscal conservatives from the fakers.
Nemont
>You all may want to go
>review the official rights of
>a permanent resident. Just
>reading to comic book version
>don't make it true.
>
>As for math. $5.7 trillion doubled
>is about $11 trillion or
>$10.9 or $11.4. I
>guess if piling on trillions
>more debt os a good
>thing Bush and the Republicans
>showed Obama how it is
>done. Remember deficits don't
>matter ask VP Cheney
>
>I would rather be a fake
>know it all rather than
>a fake conservative and a
>real know nothing. Gonna be
>a lot fin watching Trump
>break your hearts.
>
>Anyone care to bet what our
>debt will be in 4
>years? Watch how fast the
>debt limit gets raised and
>the borrowing keeps on going.
>
>
>Let's separate the fiscal conservatives from
>the fakers.
>
>Nemont
Accuracy not needed only participation you get a trophy
>review the official rights of
>a permanent resident. Just
>reading to comic book version
>don't make it true.
>
>As for math. $5.7 trillion doubled
>is about $11 trillion or
>$10.9 or $11.4. I
>guess if piling on trillions
>more debt os a good
>thing Bush and the Republicans
>showed Obama how it is
>done. Remember deficits don't
>matter ask VP Cheney
>
>I would rather be a fake
>know it all rather than
>a fake conservative and a
>real know nothing. Gonna be
>a lot fin watching Trump
>break your hearts.
>
>Anyone care to bet what our
>debt will be in 4
>years? Watch how fast the
>debt limit gets raised and
>the borrowing keeps on going.
>
>
>Let's separate the fiscal conservatives from
>the fakers.
>
>Nemont
Accuracy not needed only participation you get a trophy
NeMont
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LAST EDITED ON Dec-01-16 AT 07:29AM (MST)[p]So the bottom line you all wear the badge of being fake conservatives because GWB and the Republican congress ONLY added $5.2 Trillion to our debt and not $5.7 trillion. That makes all the difference in the world.
Then you want deport all the extended family of any permanent legal resident regardless of their involvement in any crime. You don't need no Constitution to guide you guys.
The guy was a nut job, but he was here legally and he wasn't on the FBI's radar. How exactly do you propose to live in a free society and also be risk free?
I know I am just a fake know it all, uncivil and stupid but you guys sure don't believe in the America of our Founder's.
Nemont
Then you want deport all the extended family of any permanent legal resident regardless of their involvement in any crime. You don't need no Constitution to guide you guys.
The guy was a nut job, but he was here legally and he wasn't on the FBI's radar. How exactly do you propose to live in a free society and also be risk free?
I know I am just a fake know it all, uncivil and stupid but you guys sure don't believe in the America of our Founder's.
Nemont
>LAST EDITED ON Dec-01-16
>AT 07:29?AM (MST)
>
>So the bottom line you all
>wear the badge of being
>fake conservatives because GWB and
>the Republican congress ONLY added
>$5.2 Trillion to our debt
>and not $5.7 trillion.
>That makes all the difference
>in the world.
>
>Then you want deport all the
> extended family of
>any permanent legal resident regardless
>of their involvement in any
>crime. You don't need
>no Constitution to guide you
>guys.
>
>The guy was a nut job,
>but he was here legally
>and he wasn't on
>the FBI's radar. How
>exactly do you propose to
>live in a free society
>and also be risk free?
>
>
>I know I am just a
>fake know it all, uncivil
>and stupid but you guys
>sure don't believe in the
>America of our Founder's.
>
>Nemont
LOL...go back to bed.
>AT 07:29?AM (MST)
>
>So the bottom line you all
>wear the badge of being
>fake conservatives because GWB and
>the Republican congress ONLY added
>$5.2 Trillion to our debt
>and not $5.7 trillion.
>That makes all the difference
>in the world.
>
>Then you want deport all the
> extended family of
>any permanent legal resident regardless
>of their involvement in any
>crime. You don't need
>no Constitution to guide you
>guys.
>
>The guy was a nut job,
>but he was here legally
>and he wasn't on
>the FBI's radar. How
>exactly do you propose to
>live in a free society
>and also be risk free?
>
>
>I know I am just a
>fake know it all, uncivil
>and stupid but you guys
>sure don't believe in the
>America of our Founder's.
>
>Nemont
LOL...go back to bed.
During the Great Depression the US deported 2 million Mexicans and 60% were US citizens. We interred US citizens in WWII and we had Operation Wetback and deported one million immigrants. I am sure they could deport the families of terrorists that are not citizens.
NeMont
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LAST EDITED ON Dec-01-16 AT 01:42PM (MST)[p]It isn't denigrating anyone when you you are telling the truth.
Cyber Bully? If you ever feel like you are getting Cyber bullied you need to check your sack for a pair of nuts.
Running up $5 plus Trillion is great as long was one is accurate in stating that at least it wasn't $6 Trillion, right?
No takers on how high the debt goes under Trump? I bet it will be way more than $5 Trillion more added to the debt during his term.
Three full years to fully repeal Obamacare is what I am hearing. Any politician in DC have an attention span that long?
Do permanent residents, who aren't on the FBI's radar have rights or not? Or can they be deported for no reason other than you just don't like them because they are Muslim or Somali or what ever urge strikes you that day?
https://www.uscis.gov/green-card/af...bilities-green-card-holder-permanent-resident
Rights and Responsibilities of a Green Card Holder (Permanent Resident)
Your Rights as a Permanent Resident
As a permanent resident (green card holder), you have the right to:
-Live permanently in the United States provided you do not commit any actions that would make you removable under immigration law
-Work in the United States at any legal work of your qualification and choosing. (Please note that some jobs will be limited to U.S. citizens for security reasons)
-Be protected by all laws of the United States, your state of residence and local jurisdictions
Your Responsibilities as a Permanent Resident
As a permanent resident, you are:
-Required to obey all laws of the United States the states, and localities
-Required to file your income tax returns and report your income to the U.S. Internal Revenue Service and state taxing authorities
-Expected to support the democratic form of government and not to change the government through illegal means
-Required, if you are a male age 18 through 25, to register with the Selective Service
Cyber Bully? If you ever feel like you are getting Cyber bullied you need to check your sack for a pair of nuts.
Running up $5 plus Trillion is great as long was one is accurate in stating that at least it wasn't $6 Trillion, right?
No takers on how high the debt goes under Trump? I bet it will be way more than $5 Trillion more added to the debt during his term.
Three full years to fully repeal Obamacare is what I am hearing. Any politician in DC have an attention span that long?
Do permanent residents, who aren't on the FBI's radar have rights or not? Or can they be deported for no reason other than you just don't like them because they are Muslim or Somali or what ever urge strikes you that day?
https://www.uscis.gov/green-card/af...bilities-green-card-holder-permanent-resident
Rights and Responsibilities of a Green Card Holder (Permanent Resident)
Your Rights as a Permanent Resident
As a permanent resident (green card holder), you have the right to:
-Live permanently in the United States provided you do not commit any actions that would make you removable under immigration law
-Work in the United States at any legal work of your qualification and choosing. (Please note that some jobs will be limited to U.S. citizens for security reasons)
-Be protected by all laws of the United States, your state of residence and local jurisdictions
Your Responsibilities as a Permanent Resident
As a permanent resident, you are:
-Required to obey all laws of the United States the states, and localities
-Required to file your income tax returns and report your income to the U.S. Internal Revenue Service and state taxing authorities
-Expected to support the democratic form of government and not to change the government through illegal means
-Required, if you are a male age 18 through 25, to register with the Selective Service
