Utah and the little Circus

[Tristate]

RE: Utah and t,he little Circus

">Trollstate,
>
>It has been about 150 posts
>and I am still waithing
>for you to explain why
>SFW can't just publish there
>financials here, or facebook, or
>whereever. Why do they
>need the WB to force
>there hand? There is
>nothing in the contract stopping
>them from voluntarily doing so,
>why haven't they done so? "

Blur, clean youre glasses, go back and read my posts, instead of just being an emotional little girl and not thinking. I have always said they should be opening their books. As for why they haven't done so, I have no idea. You'll have to ask SFW and I am not part of them. You are barking up the wrong tree
>
>
">Trollstate,
>Here in Utah the majority of
>land is public land.
>Most of the animals in
>the state reside on public
>land. Unlike Texas.
>I have nothing bad to
>say about texas other than
>comparing hunting in Utah, or
>anywhere in the intermountain west
>to Texas is rediculous."

I never compared hunting in Texas to Utah. Other posters here made wild assumptions about Texas wildlife and hunting and I corrected them.


">While we appreciate your input(as
>dumazz as it is), feel
>free to go back to
>paying for hunting leases, and
>importing African game. We
>here in this state will
>simply continue firguring out how
>we will grow some more
>WORLD RECORD ELK,"

Wasn't the Spidey bull killed with a auction tag? HaHaHaHaHa.

" you all
>figure out how to keep
>Uncle Ted from breaking game
>laws. If we need
>anymore input on how its
>done in Texas, or what
>some Texan thinks, we will
>ride out to Wendover(about the
>same landscape as your precious
>lone star state) and ask
>the local taxidermist for his
>explaination of game law or
>economics.
>
>Trollstate, you can quit now,"

NOPE!

"THE
>DON isn't starting a Texas
>SFW, he can't afford to
>buy that many leases, and
>without public money(tags) SFW is
>a bumper sticker, so you
>aren't in line to be
>the Texas SFW PR chief."

Read my posts again. I have never tried to affiliate myself with SFW.

"> Again, thank you for
>being so confused that you
>apply supply side economics to
>government run wildlife agencies."

How is not applying economics to wildlife agencies working out for Wyoming right now. Oh yeah! THEIR BROKE!

">I am sure your biology
>degree from the University of
>Phoenix taught Supply side economics
>in wildlife biology 101, but
>the arguments for such do
>not apply."

My degree was from Texas A&M and they are the leading school in both Wildlife and Fisheries sciences, Range Management, and Agriculture economics. And yes Economics applies here whether you like it or not.

 

[TOPGUN]

RE: Utah and t,he little Circus

WapitiBob---No chit, LOL! Here's a guy that has used every configuration of my username in the book spouting all kinds of horseshit and yet is another chickenchit with no name in his profile! Now he says he's sent a $100 bill to Tye, so I guess that means he is too chickenchit to send a check or money order with his real name on that too. What a friggin joke and it's none of his business how I spend my money and I'm not going to brag whether I send Tye $10 or $1000, as it's none of his friggin business. It appears to me that ones like this are just trying to get UWC supporters pizzed off so they will get down to their "low life" level of name calling, etc., but it's not going to work and this Average Joe guy is actually way below average in the smarts department!

 

[TOPGUN]

RE: Utah and t,he little Circus

Judas, a friggin Aggie,LOL! I should have figured as much!!!

 

[Tristate]

RE: Utah and t,he little Circus

"trying to get UWC supporters pizzed off so they will get down to their "low life" level of name calling, etc., but it's not going to work"

TRYING TO??????? Topgun, you are the lowest level of trash talking ghetto garbage on this website. A man would have to fall through an open sewer hole to get to your level.

 

[klbzdad]

RE: Utah and t,he little Circus

>"trying to get UWC supporters pizzed
>off so they will get
>down to their "low life"
>level of name calling, etc.,
>but it's not going to
>work"
>
>TRYING TO??????? Topgun, you are
>the lowest level of trash
>talking ghetto garbage on this
>website. A man would
>have to fall through an
>open sewer hole to get
>to your level.

Just sayin'......have a nice day!

 

[TOPGUN]

RE: Utah and t,he little Circus

Yep!!!

 

[Tristate]

RE: Utah and t,he little Circus

>>"trying to get UWC supporters pizzed
>>off so they will get
>>down to their "low life"
>>level of name calling, etc.,
>>but it's not going to
>>work"
>>
>>TRYING TO??????? Topgun, you are
>>the lowest level of trash
>>talking ghetto garbage on this
>>website. A man would
>>have to fall through an
>>open sewer hole to get
>>to your level.
>
>

>
>Just sayin'......have a nice day!

Really??????? Do you remember when you were "Just sayin'" this?

"Dear GAWD! You sir, are a driviling echo of a sorry excuse for a certain person (Don Peay)"

You are a hypocrite and a child. Only a child could have as bad of a memory of his own behavior as you do.

 

[klbzdad]

RE: Utah and t,he little Circus

The difference between you and I is that I'm not debating anything with you and was stating a fact. You have a nice day now!

 

[elkfromabove]

RE: Utah and t,he little Circus

>Open question- Why do you continue
>to respond to Tristate's comments?
>After reading through this entire
>thread, I am amazed you
>take this guy seriously. In
>reading his comments (which is
>a no easy task) it
>seems he must have a
>vested interest in the Expo
>money.
>
>I really appreciate the comments made
>by the majority who are
>at odds with this dude.
>I feel there is a
>genuine desire by the majority
>to do the honest, best
>thing for hunters and wildlife.
>
>
>Have to admit, it has been
>amusing to witness how each
>individual has tried to reason
>with Tristate. Not working well
>is it?

I don't speak for others, but the reason I keep responding to Tristate's posts has very little to do with him. I know that there are many more like you and stillwaterhunter on this forum who get the point of UWC and their proposal and can see the foolishness of Tristate's arguements. Who knows, we might even get you to join us!

 

[Tristate]

RE: Utah and t,he little Circus

>The difference between you and I
>is that I'm not debating
>anything with you and was
>stating a fact. You
>have a nice day now!
>

Now you can add "Liar" to your title list.

 

[kandrew]

As mentioned on another forum, I support the expo, just not the tags. I have not purchased a expo tag for two years and will not until SFW is out of the picture. I really enjoy the expo- and have met some really fine people there.

Take this for what it is--- I know of a friends friend who is in the leadership of SFW and he has drawn an expo tag for the past three seaons. Out of my hunting friends and family members, not one of us have drawn a tag (I am the only one not applying now). That is changing really fast. Most of us are sick and tired of the antics of SFW and the DWR. The majority of us were applying for all of the tags, so that was a bunch of cash. It's sad that we wasted so much money on a bunch of yahoos who are more interested in making a buck instead of creating habitat for one.
I listened to the fiasco last week, and am ashamed of our DWR and appalled with the actions of SFW. Common sense did not rule that day. Heard alot of emotion from SWF and others. I would be emotional too if changes were made to eliminate my paycheck.

 

[klbzdad]

RE: Utah and t,he little Circus

>>The difference between you and I
>>is that I'm not debating
>>anything with you and was
>>stating a fact. You
>>have a nice day now!
>>
>
>Now you can add "Liar" to
>your title list.


Again, no substance, just insults. Thanks for the validation! Have a great afternoon!

 

[hossblur]

Trollstate,

Brother I am now openly confused. You aren't for SFW. You think they should open their books. You don't live in the state. What the hell are you doing in this post? In fact why the hell are you in anything labeled utah? I have not nor do I have any interest in whats going on in Texas, please explain, what are you doing in here? We do not want a closed up state like Texas. You can keep Ted Nuggent. I don't really need to hunt African game in Utah. So help us all out. Apparently Texas has done such a wonderful job in game management, and hunter access, that we now need you to educate us poor Utah guys?

And yes, the spider bull was killed by Denny Austad with an auction tag. Mr. Austad is the big money king here in Utah. The outrageous price he paid to kill that bull help to demonstrate to our greedy legislature that wildlife biology be damned, sell tags to generate money, thus the "hunt" on antelope island. Mr. Austad is the prime example of what is wrong in this state, he hunts the best areas year after year, while we wait decades for the same tag. Each year we are sold on how much he helps wildlife, yet for every deer he kills our population goes down(we call that inverse). What he does do is help to enrich a few guides and a few lobbyists who then treat him like all mighty god himself. When you see SFW, sportsmen for the wealthy, that guy is the poster child.

By the way, I don't live in Wyoming, but last I heard there are more deer, and elk than people, so from the outside looking in they must be doing something right. Trollstate what separates wildlife managment from agriculture in the west is that we think it out birthright to hunt, not just the wealthy and connected. I realize that a guy that makes his living stuffing animals needs to support the money that pays him, so we understand your stance, but we would love to see it stay in Texas.


When they came for the road hunters I was not one so I said nothing. When they came for the oppurtunists I was not one so I said nothing. When they came for the public land hunters I was not one so I said nothing. When they came for me there was no one left to say anything!

 

[Zeke]

Entetaining to say the least.

All this effort pizzed away on a circus of a forum.

You guys all need to get in a room together and measure your d!cks for the last time and settle this "debate".

The gap is getting wider by the day, carry on.
Zeke

PS: I feel my comment was the most constructive.... or at least as constructive as most on this forum so far.

 

[joeaveragehunter]

TOPBADAZZ, aka dp trollie-o, man I screwed us, after reading your pos posts for six months, you calling every one a moron, and idiot, a fool, a troll, I thought that was how you liked to communicate, your style. You say, no? By GAWD you suckered me in there trollie-o.

You must like it, makes you look good to get picked on. Sick man, you a confused and sick dude. Name calling one second, condemning it the next. SICKGUN you are just too complex for me. On day pissed off at MDF the next day call me a moron for doing the same. Watch a Western Association of Fish & Wildlife Agencies produces promoting dp's $xpo, then calling me a moron for pointing out the connection. You and $$$STATE wear the same thongs don't you. Come on give it up. DISSOCIATIVEIDENTITYDISORDERGUN, we know where you live but you dream of Texas don't you, a Texas wannabe by GAWD.

You can't stand it that $fw has all these good guy fooled or corned. All these good guys (you say) keep funding the pos and you are too smart to make the connection. That makes you a trollie-o.

In the mean time, check with Mr. Boulter to see I put my money where my internet badazz is. You going man up or kittycat back to your smoking hot keyboard.

Hard as that rot gut is to swallow, that's where the rubber rubs the gravel. It's either that or this:

The good guys are (your good guys, not mind) are right and $fw pos is doing EXACTLY what they ALL want and where $fw spends the money they get from the $xpo doesn't concern any of them, in the least

or

They like what $fw is doing with the money and want them to have more success at raising it.

See TOPJOKE, people who vehemently oppose something don't go around promoting it. Scrap a little of that north woods moss off your social security skull and let a little logic seep in.

Which is it TRIGUN, are the good guys on the dp wagon trail or are they not. Is UWC wrong in calling out $fw, which in consequence, sucks in all these so called good guys or is UWC wrong for calling out $fw, regardless who it identifies as supporting them?

Grind that one down for us TOPTRI and I'll crawl back in my internet black hole and you'll have heard last of my DISSOCIATIVEIDENTITYDISORDER classification accusations.

 

[BattleBorn]

Anyone know what the world record is for a dog chasing his own tale? 1 hour? 1 day? 1 week? 1 month?

Just curious.......carry on

 

[klbzdad]

LAST EDITED ON Aug-23-12 AT 04:00PM (MST)[p]>Trollstate,
>
>Brother I am now openly confused.
> You aren't for SFW.
> You think they should
>open their books. You
>don't live in the state.
> What the hell are
>you doing in this post?
> In fact why the
>hell are you in anything
>labeled utah? I have
>not nor do I have
>any interest in whats going
>on in Texas, please explain,
>what are you doing in
>here? We do not
>want a closed up state
>like Texas. You can
>keep Ted Nuggent. I
>don't really need to hunt
>African game in Utah.
>So help us all out.
> Apparently Texas has done
>such a wonderful job in
>game management, and hunter access,
>that we now need you
>to educate us poor Utah
>guys?
>
>And yes, the spider bull was
>killed by Denny Austad with
>an auction tag. Mr.
>Austad is the big money
>king here in Utah.
>The outrageous price he paid
>to kill that bull help
>to demonstrate to our greedy
>legislature that wildlife biology be
>damned, sell tags to generate
>money, thus the "hunt" on
>antelope island. Mr. Austad
>is the prime example of
>what is wrong in this
>state, he hunts the best
>areas year after year, while
>we wait decades for the
>same tag. Each year
>we are sold on how
>much he helps wildlife, yet
>for every deer he kills
>our population goes down(we call
>that inverse). What he
>does do is help to
>enrich a few guides and
>a few lobbyists who then
>treat him like all mighty
>god himself. When you
>see SFW, sportsmen for the
>wealthy, that guy is the
>poster child.
>
>By the way, I don't live
>in Wyoming, but last I
>heard there are more deer,
>and elk than people, so
>from the outside looking in
>they must be doing something
>right. Trollstate what separates
>wildlife managment from agriculture in
>the west is that we
>think it out birthright to
>hunt, not just the wealthy
>and connected. I realize
>that a guy that makes
>his living stuffing animals needs
>to support the money that
>pays him, so we understand
>your stance, but we would
>love to see it stay
>in Texas.
>
>
>When they came for the road
>hunters I was not one
>so I said nothing.
>When they came for the
>oppurtunists I was not one
>so I said nothing.
>When they came for the
>public land hunters I was
>not one so I said
>nothing. When they came
>for me there was no
>one left to say anything!
>


Biblical! Best post I've read for a long time! Zeke's too!

 

[klbzdad]

>Anyone know what the world record
>is for a dog chasing
>his own tale? 1 hour?
>1 day? 1 week? 1
>month?
>
>Just curious.......carry on


We're witnessing the record in the making! I say we all shut up and watch this conversation between....well, HIMSELF play out! I'm over it and have critters to chase on the mountain anyway.

 

[Tristate]

>"Trollstate,
>
>Brother I am now openly confused."

Predictable

"> You aren't for SFW."

Never once said I was.

"> You think they should
>open their books."

Said that from the very start. You should have been paying attention instead of worrying about feelings.

" You
>don't live in the state."

Nope neither do a lot of the posters on this thread that are on your side of this arguement.

>" What the hell are
>you doing in this post?"

Trying to help you.

"> In fact why the
>hell are you in anything
>labeled utah?"

Because your wildlife management is important to me. When I see a house burning down I don't just shrug my shoulders and say "Well, I don't live there".

"I have
>not nor do I have
>any interest in whats going
>on in Texas, please explain,
>what are you doing in
>here? We do not
>want a closed up state
>like Texas. You can
>keep Ted Nuggent. I
>don't really need to hunt
>African game in Utah.
>So help us all out."

Trash Talking won't fix your problem.


"> Apparently Texas has done
>such a wonderful job in
>game management, and hunter access,
>that we now need you
>to educate us poor Utah
>guys?"

Yes you could use some help.

>
">And yes, the spider bull was
>killed by Denny Austad with
>an auction tag. Mr.
>Austad is the big money
>king here in Utah.
>The outrageous price he paid
>to kill that bull help
>to demonstrate to our greedy
>legislature that wildlife biology be
>damned, sell tags to generate
>money, thus the "hunt" on
>antelope island. Mr. Austad
>is the prime example of
>what is wrong in this
>state, he hunts the best
>areas year after year, while
>we wait decades for the
>same tag. Each year
>we are sold on how
>much he helps wildlife, yet
>for every deer he kills
>our population goes down(we call
>that inverse). What he
>does do is help to
>enrich a few guides and
>a few lobbyists who then
>treat him like all mighty
>god himself. When you
>see SFW, sportsmen for the
>wealthy, that guy is the
>poster child."

So you brag about having the world record elk from your state but despise that the world record bull got killed in your state. That makes lots of sense??????

>
">By the way, I don't live
>in Wyoming, but last I
>heard there are more deer,
>and elk than people, so
>from the outside looking in
>they must be doing something
>right."

That logic will take you far.


" Trollstate what separates
>wildlife managment from agriculture in
>the west is that we
>think it out birthright to
>hunt, not just the wealthy
>and connected."

Wow that sentence actually made no sense at all. Maybe you could draw a connection between space travel and deer antlers????
By the way it ain't your birthright and it isn't mentioned anywhere in the constitution. I know your baloon just ruptured but just because someone has been feeding you a line of bull all your life doesn't make it true.

" I realize
>that a guy that makes
>his living stuffing animals needs
>to support the money that
>pays him, so we understand
>your stance, but we would
>love to see it stay
>in Texas."

Can't do that. I control an interstate and international business. I must have my finger on the pulse of many things outside my state at once.

 

[hossblur]

>Entetaining to say the least.
>
>All this effort pizzed away on
>a circus of a forum.
>
>
>You guys all need to get
>in a room together and
>measure your d!cks for the
>last time and settle this
>"debate".
>
>The gap is getting wider by
>the day, carry on.
>Zeke
>
>PS: I feel my comment was
>the most constructive.... or at
>least as constructive as most
>on this forum so far.
>

We don't allow rulers or tape measures at my house, unless they are metric


When they came for the road hunters I was not one so I said nothing. When they came for the oppurtunists I was not one so I said nothing. When they came for the public land hunters I was not one so I said nothing. When they came for me there was no one left to say anything!

 

[cuponoodles]

LAST EDITED ON Aug-28-12 AT 11:50AM (MST)[p]>The wildlife board like always is
>very interesting. SFW and MDF
>tried to play the victims.
>Lumpy2 Mr Christensen tried telling
>people that the reason UWC
>was making a proposal was
>because they were trying to
>dismantle the orgs. Some people
>have different opinions of transparecy.
>Don Peay told everyone that
>is the reason why wildlife
>in Utah is so great.
>He can walk on water
>like Jesus. Bryon Bateman cried
>a lot in his comments
>and he tried to justify
>that everything they are doing
>is 110% legal. If that
>is the case then why
>not show people where the
>money is going. MDF apparently
>sent out an email saying
>if people would come and
>speak against the UWC Proposal
>then they all would get
>a free hat. HAHAHA
>
>The wildlife board are to old
>to sit for very long.
>I think we need some
>younger guys on the board
>then these old men because
>they have a very hard
>time when someone makes a
>motion. I think they all
>need to stay home or
>go to a resthome.
>
>MDF tried hard passing off expenses
>that still doesnt tell people
>where the money came from
>since the conservation tags and
>expo tag monies are placed
>in the same account.
>
>Hopefully MDF will volunteer and do
>the right thing.

I agree 100%!

 

[klbzdad]

>You stated UWC doesn't t want
>anything else but open books.
> I proved you were
>lying. Enjoy the crow.
>


YOU've proved NOTHING other than you're a horses ASSphyncter! Go pound sand!

 

[klbzdad]

>>I am a first time poster,
>>very long time lurker, and
>>former native Utah resident.
>>
>>If Tristate is not Don Peay
>>himself, he is one of
>>his paid underlings.
>>
> While I'm not
>>a UWC member, I will
>>be in about 15 minutes,
>>along with a donation. Keep
>>up the good work.
>
>Welcome, SWH. Glad to have you
>on board!
>
>And keep on posting, Tristate. We
>can use more good people
>like SWH!


I didn't give Don...er, Tristate enough credit! He IS A GENIUS! Please keep being the SFW spokesmonkey there Donald, uh, I meant, Tristate! You're bull is only helping to PROVE the point we have all been making since people started to realize that most of the 1993 promises are hollow Have a nice evening