Wildlife Board workshop March 31

[middlefork]

https://wildlife.utah.gov/public_meetings/board/2022-03-31-board-session-agenda.pdf

 

[middlefork]

Sorry I didn't see the other post.

And so it begins | Utah

And here I thought people at BYU were smart… The beginning of the end https://wildlife.utah.gov/public_meetings/board/2022-03-31-board-session-agenda.pdf

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[PleaseDear]

Thanks for the reminder.



I might make it down,



Robb

 

[cannonball]

From the Board Meeting agenda:

5. Point System - Lindy Varney ● What would look like if we merged LE and GS points ● Issues with going away all points given the investment of so many hunters for decades.

Here is my proposal for point 5. leave the draw the same with the exception of this: You would have two boxes and would only have the option to check one of the boxes.
If you checked the first box you would gain bonus/preference points(if not drawn), but would only be able to apply for one first choice permit per species. In other words you would not be able to apply for both GS and LE.
If you checked the second box. You would be able to apply for both the GS and LE, but you would not go into the max point pool and would not gain points.

Neither way totally excludes a person on the LE, and I am sure there are a lot of hunters out there who would rather skip some years of hunting for less years of waiting for the LE permit. On the other hand there are a lot of hunters who likes to hunt every year even though there is lesser of a chance to draw the LE from the pool of applicants.

Would like to hear thoughts?

 

[southernutahhunter]

Why not a unit by unit summary of the deer herds?

 

[Bux n Dux]

Why not a unit by unit summary of the deer herds?

Because they already know it’s bad all around. A region by region discussion covers all of it. And even then they could save time and just have a state summary

 

[southernutahhunter]

Or could it make it look better by some areas being better than others? For example the Beaver is shot but the pine valley may not be near a bad.

 

[Bux n Dux]

Or could it make it look better by some areas being better than others? For example the Beaver is shot but the pine valley may not be near a bad.

No it’s pretty much all bad. Henry’s is bad. Pauns. Books. San Juan. Wasatch. Beaver. Pine valley. Ogden. Nebo. Vernon. Tintic. It’s all bad. Sure some are better than others, but none are doing even ‘ok’ at this point.

 

[southernutahhunter]

I think you are probably right. When will we see spring counts and tag numbers? Hopefully before rac meetings

 

[Bux n Dux]

I think you are probably right. When will we see spring counts and tag numbers? Hopefully before rac meetings

Yeah you’d think if they really gave a chit about public input they’d post the materials for the public to review to give their input and comments on.

Still think your public voice matters in all of this?

 

[southernutahhunter]

They have never listened before. The year they claimed there was more deer than ever people stood up in southern rac and told them the deer herds were drastically declining. All they did was cut a few tags. Now the Beaver and Dutton worse than when they closed other units like the pauns.

 

[elkfromabove]

Yeah you’d think if they really gave a chit about public input they’d post the materials for the public to review to give their input and comments on.

That's exactly what they are doing with this meeting! "All of this" is being presented and recorded at the meeting for you to play over and over, again and again, to your satisfaction. And then it will have to go through the RAC and Wildlife Board system where you and I will have a chance to ask questions and make comments. And, as usual, you can send them emails, fax's, letters, messages, text's and phone calls ahead of the RAC's and Board meetings.

Still think your public voice matters in all of this?

Yup! Sometimes it takes a while, but I've seen a few of my proposals/suggestions/ideas come to fruition. "All of this" has to come from somebody, it might as well be you or me!

 

[Bux n Dux]

That's exactly what they are doing with this meeting! "All of this" is being presented and recorded at the meeting for you to play over and over, again and again, to your satisfaction. And then it will have to go through the RAC and Wildlife Board system where you and I will have a chance to ask questions and make comments. And, as usual, you can send them emails, fax's, letters, messages, text's and phone calls ahead of the RAC's and Board meetings.

Yup! Sometimes it takes a while, but I've seen a few of my proposals/suggestions/ideas come to fruition. "All of this" has to come from somebody, it might as well be you or me!

They are discussing tag numbers at this meeting? I don’t think so.

 

[elkfromabove]

Why would you be expecting them to be discussing tag numbers at this meeting? That happens at a regularly scheduled RAC and Board meeting where the DWR prints the proposed numbers in its packet and the public has a chance to review that info and then ask questions and make comments at the meeting. This meeting deals with policy, not tag numbers.

 

[southernutahhunter]

Will we see deer numbers and tag number recommendations before the April race?

 

[middlefork]

Will we see deer numbers and tag number recommendations before the April race?

April – RAC meetings: • Big game permit numbers. • Antlerless permit numbers • CWMU rule amendments • CWMU management plans • LOA management plans April 5 - CR April 6 - NR April 12 – SR – Cedar City – Hunter Conf. Room 405 Univ. Blvd. April 13 - SER April 14 - NER Board meeting April 28 • April 5-14 RAC agenda items.

 

[southernutahhunter]

But will we see the numbers before the meeting?