Win or Rem?
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NickJ1980
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I've been eying the same cartridge in a Savage... I'm partial to Remington 700's but I've never had a Winchester Model 70. I've also never had a 700 that I couldn't get under MOA at least part of the time so that influences my bias.
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440sixpack
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The only thing about a 700 that's superior to the 70 is the way it shoots .
I don't know about the new manufactured 70's but I'll put my money on the 700 every time compared to a post 64 70 in the accuracy dept.
If you don't mind spending a few more bucks take a look at the Kimber it's a 70 of higher quality. I've found them to be very accurate and you get away from the crumby 700 style safety and paper clip extractor.
I don't know about the new manufactured 70's but I'll put my money on the 700 every time compared to a post 64 70 in the accuracy dept.
If you don't mind spending a few more bucks take a look at the Kimber it's a 70 of higher quality. I've found them to be very accurate and you get away from the crumby 700 style safety and paper clip extractor.
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plannerman
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Why not consider the Browing bolts? Have had a 270 WSM in an A-bolt II for past 7 years. Reasonable weight, tack driver and reliable as hell.
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NickJ1980
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I hadn't noticed that... Thanks for the heads up.
The one I'm looking at is a used Model 12 FVSS which isn't made in .270 WSM anymore, but the price is right.
The one I'm looking at is a used Model 12 FVSS which isn't made in .270 WSM anymore, but the price is right.
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whiskeybent
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Model 700 for me
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desertdeer
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model 70 all the way
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AZWALKER
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I own a 10 year old 70 in 7mm rem mag and I love it... but I do not know how they are now. I hear the 700's are pretty sweet guns.
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tagsoup
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>The only thing about a 700
>that's superior to the 70
>is the way it shoots
>.
>
> I don't know about the
>new manufactured 70's but I'll
>put my money on the
>700 every time compared to
>a post 64 70 in
>the accuracy dept.
>
> If you don't mind spending
>a few more bucks take
>a look at the Kimber
>it's a 70 of higher
>quality. I've found them to
>be very accurate and you
>get away from the crumby
>700 style safety and paper
>clip extractor.
Carlos Hathcock thought the post 64's were pretty accurate.
>that's superior to the 70
>is the way it shoots
>.
>
> I don't know about the
>new manufactured 70's but I'll
>put my money on the
>700 every time compared to
>a post 64 70 in
>the accuracy dept.
>
> If you don't mind spending
>a few more bucks take
>a look at the Kimber
>it's a 70 of higher
>quality. I've found them to
>be very accurate and you
>get away from the crumby
>700 style safety and paper
>clip extractor.
Carlos Hathcock thought the post 64's were pretty accurate.
MaineFlatlander
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I have a 12 year old 70 in 7mm-08. A very nice rifle. I also have a one year old 700 in 25-06 that is a tack driver but I've spent more time with it than the 70. I have two Kimbers one in 7mm-08 and one in 257 Roberts. Very accuarate and super light if you are backpacking in but I can buy two 700s for every Kimber and $$ is an assue and I already have two. Brother has an A-bolt in 7mm-08 and Father in law has a X-bolt in 25-06. Both seem to be nice rifles. Guess I didn't help you. Pick the one that "feels" the best to you. .
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AZWALKER
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Great post. One of my hero's. Though, I doubt very many know who he is.
"The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle." General John J. "Black Jack" Pershing, US Army
"Most men go through life wondering if they made a difference, Marines don't have that problem." President Ronald Regan
"The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle." General John J. "Black Jack" Pershing, US Army
"Most men go through life wondering if they made a difference, Marines don't have that problem." President Ronald Regan
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bucktaxi
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You mean White Feather... but I choose the Rem 700 every time.
Both are good guns and accuracy is a crap shoot at best but they build many more guns with acceptable accuracy than not. Make sure you do your part by trying several brands of ammo and 2 different bullet weights to help find the accuracy level you seek. Many of the other brands mentioned here are good guns too. I didn't see any mention of Wby and their Vangard rifles are built in the .270WSM. The action used on that gun is very well made and has a reputation for good accuracy. They also offer their Sub MOA guns in the Vangard line and they shoot under 1MOA most hover around 1/2 inch. Not everyone's cup of tea but hey the proofs on the target. You won't go wrong with the 700 or the model 70 either in most instances but the Remington has a slight edge in the out of box accuracy department but both companies build shooters. You picked a fine round that will put em down and shoots flat enough to make that long shot if needed.
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elk_horn
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I own a 700 a 70 and a browning A bolt.... I like them all!
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cowboy57
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700 the only way to go.been shooting one for 35yr.
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Remington model 700. But I'd take a long hard look at the Savage 116 weather warrior. Here is a link to a review I did on the rifle. It has several accuracy components that are not offered in the model 700"s http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforum/DCForumID28/584.html
deadibob
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I'm biased towards the model 70 and the new FN produced winchesters out of South Carolina are better than any model 70 built since 1964. I haven't heard of a new production (FN built) model 70 that isn't a tack-driver.
I have a new in the box 270wsm model 70 black shadow that I was thinking of putting in the classifieds this weekend for $450. It's a New Haven rifle.
I have a new in the box 270wsm model 70 black shadow that I was thinking of putting in the classifieds this weekend for $450. It's a New Haven rifle.
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If I remember correctly Hathcock used a pre 64 model 70 in 30-06 with a 10x Unertl scope for most of his career. Later he used a Rem 700 in 308 with a Redfield 3-9 scope.
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Model 700 all day, Come on robb get your act together !!!
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woodtick
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I've got 7 REM 700's from factory to custom jobs, It doesn't matter the caliber I can get all of them to shoot under 3/4" and couple will shoot in the .2-.3 range. I've had 2 A-bolts and hated them with a passion. Stick with a higher priced REM you won't be dissapointed.
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weatherby > all
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LAST EDITED ON Dec-16-10 AT 05:15PM (MST)[p]
I've had several Win M/70's, Rem 700 in SPS and Weatherby Mark V's from pretty blued w/wood to the Ultralightweights and also a Vanguard.
I REALLY want a stainless Remington 700 in .257wby mag.
Kind of a hybrid.
Have a hunch it's gonna be next.
HH
I've had several Win M/70's, Rem 700 in SPS and Weatherby Mark V's from pretty blued w/wood to the Ultralightweights and also a Vanguard.
I REALLY want a stainless Remington 700 in .257wby mag.
Kind of a hybrid.
Have a hunch it's gonna be next.
HH
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I like the 700's best
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I like them both. I have, and have had, newer and older 70's and 700's. My favorite rifle right now is a 6-7 year old 270WSM in a stainless Classic Model 70. It has the old style extractor, a short action, and a habit of putting them all -3/4". It's probably has the slickest, sweetest little action i've ever used and i'm basically a Remington fan at heart.
I don't see how you could go wrong with either brand but as some mentioned above, those Kimber people put out a hell'a fine rifle for the money!
Joey
I don't see how you could go wrong with either brand but as some mentioned above, those Kimber people put out a hell'a fine rifle for the money!
Joey
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never_satisfied
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I have a Remington 700 and 4 Browning A-Bolts
Hands down I would recommend the browning(X-bolt or A-bolt)
Free floating barrel,glass bed action in front and back,60 degree bolt throw and just over all very smooth to shoot
ITS ALL ABOUT MEAT-IN WITH THE TAXIDERMIST
Hands down I would recommend the browning(X-bolt or A-bolt)
Free floating barrel,glass bed action in front and back,60 degree bolt throw and just over all very smooth to shoot
ITS ALL ABOUT MEAT-IN WITH THE TAXIDERMIST
While you are at the counter deciding on the 700 or the 70, make sure and atleast shoulder a Kimber 8400 Montana. I'd give the Savage a good look at also.
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LAST EDITED ON Dec-16-10 AT 11:05PM (MST)[p]>The Remington 700 is what alot
>of gun builder start with
>when building a custom gun.
>I dont think you can
>beat it.
>But I have also shot a
>Browning A bolt for a
>lot of years and really
>like it . The 60
> degree bolt is great.
>
The main reason that guys build on 700's and not on 70's is the 700 has a "stronger" action. The bolt face on a 700 goes inside the nose cone. The m70's bolt face does not go inside the nose cone. It butts up against it.
I have never read were Hathcock ever used a m700. I know he did use another gun. It was a .50cal m2 browning machine gun.
>of gun builder start with
>when building a custom gun.
>I dont think you can
>beat it.
>But I have also shot a
>Browning A bolt for a
>lot of years and really
>like it . The 60
> degree bolt is great.
>
The main reason that guys build on 700's and not on 70's is the 700 has a "stronger" action. The bolt face on a 700 goes inside the nose cone. The m70's bolt face does not go inside the nose cone. It butts up against it.
I have never read were Hathcock ever used a m700. I know he did use another gun. It was a .50cal m2 browning machine gun.
