Wounded Bulls

CPAjeff · Aug 1, 2014

I ran into an acquaintance the other day and as the subject of hunting was brought up, he told me about his brother-in-law who wounded 3 different bulls (with a rifle) on a LE unit last year prior to finally killing one. The hunter had 5 other guys along helping him out. I am sure this same situation happens a lot more than it should where people wound bulls/bucks and just keep hunting. My question is, at what point should the others in the group speak up and tell the person to stop shooting?

I was taught, one tag - one animal. Whether you find it or not.

Zigga · Aug 1, 2014

That's how it works on some ranches. You're done if you wound it.

Ticks N Tines · Aug 1, 2014

It all comes down to ethics. It's not against the law to wound an animal and then take another one. However, I think it is expected that you make a very good effort to find the animal you wound prior to shooting another. I personally would consider myself "Done" after wounding an animal.

AzMblanc1824 · Aug 1, 2014

I would say they should start questioning his shot selection after #1 or #2.... He should also hit the range and practice

elkhunterUT · Aug 1, 2014

I call BS - according to Bobcatbessy this kind of crap only happens with stickflippers

elkassassin · Aug 1, 2014

LAST EDITED ON Aug-01-14 AT 05:57PM (MST)[p]>I call BS - according to
>Bobcatbessy this kind of crap
>only happens with stickflippers

EASY Cory!

No!

It Happens with every kind of Weapon!

So what's this JOKER Shootin a pellet Gun?

StickFlippers are just more Apt to Jump Me than others!

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elkun · Aug 1, 2014

the cat don't lie??

GeorgeE · Aug 1, 2014

Criminal, if this was the case...

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Vanilla · Aug 2, 2014

LAST EDITED ON Aug-02-14 AT 12:00PM (MST)[p]I don't have an issue if someone wounds an animal but keeps hunting, so long as he makes every possible effort to recovery the animal. And looking for an hour or two isn't 'every possible effort.'

But 3 wounded bulls and harvesting a 4th? Seems fishy to me. I may continue after one. Then again, I may not. Just depends. Not sure I'd keep hunting if that happened to me a second time.

I'd be interested to hear what day of the hunt the 4th bull went down. That would tell me a lot about how much effort was put in to find the previous three bulls.

Ltsheets · Aug 2, 2014

For me it would depend on the "wound." If I hit a bull/buck with a rifle, but wasn't sure where I hit him and couldn't find him, I'd probably be done. If I was bow hunting and hit them but knew it was a high hit or one that had very little likelihood of being fatal, I would probably keep hunting. I've missed whitetail bucks high before where I grazed their back enough to scar them but nothing more. Wouldn't have a problem continuing to hunt with a shot like that. Wounding 3 bulls with a rifle before harvesting a 4th, to me shows a complete lack of ethics and is borderline criminal.

deerslayer88 · Aug 2, 2014

I have one thing to add. Yes a rifle does more damage as its a shocker not a bleeder type of kill. But on the same note, I have grazed a animal with a rifle just enough that had my second shot not killed it they would have just been left with a scar. So the logic there is not 100% as there are many animals shot with both a rifle and bow that live, there are just as many shot that die after being wounded. The point I am making is a rifle shot animal can live/have the same type of wounds as a bow shot animal within reason. I would say more then one lost animal in a season is unethical.

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DW · Aug 2, 2014

We got a chucklehead in our group that I've finally convinced after 12 yrs that he's a crack shot! You've heard of this guy, he gets a string of em in front of him and if they don't tip over like ducks at the carnival shooting gallery he picks out another! Last year he finally took 1 shot and 1 shot only! I think he's turned the corner. I'll know in a couple months!

DoubleBuckBonus · Aug 3, 2014

LAST EDITED ON Aug-03-14 AT 02:20PM (MST)[p]Wounding three elk is horse crap, then killing the fourth is just plain selfish. You can suggest to a friend to quit shooting, or you can lead by example and after the first, or for sure the second wounded animal, pack up your own stuff, and walk. No much ethics in that hunter.

cbstewart · Aug 3, 2014

LAST EDITED ON Aug-03-14 AT 03:48PM (MST)[p]I once shot a buck at about 380 yards (which is a hip shot for a lot of guys these days, but a long ways for me with my 3-9 scope). He dropped, got back up, stumbled around, then dropped again. He then proceeded to do the death kick and went limp. I kept my scope on him for another minute or two just to make sure he was done and not suffering, then proceeded to put my pack together to climb down and up the steep canyon to get to him. After I put my pack on, he jumped back up and walked over the ridge. Myself and 2 other guys stalked his blood trail for 4 hours over 2 miles. When I finally jumped him, he immediately went into black timber, crossing several other deer tracks, and I could never pick up any blood again. I think he stopped bleeding out when he rested up, but I'm positive he had to have died later on. I shot another good buck the next morning, but I've never felt right about the situation. I feel like I did everything I could to redeem that first buck, but that was probably the last time for me. One and done. On the other hand, if you shoot 4 BULLS, you're just an idiot and an a@#hole.

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YukonDall · Aug 3, 2014

AT THE POINT OF WOUNDING AN ELK, YOUR HUNT IS LIMITED TO THE WOUNDED ELK ONLY. FIND THE ELK OR GO HOME..............YD.

lunkerjunker · Aug 4, 2014

If he was hunting with a rifle that means he had only 7 days to hunt correct? He could'nt have tried too hard to find the 3 wounded bulls in that time and still have had the time to shoot a 4th. I have feeling this story is a bit exaggerated. I would think that with 6 people in the group there would be some objection to keep on shootig bulls. If not there is a serious problem out there.

CPAjeff · Aug 4, 2014

lunkerjunker,

My thoughts exactly on not trying too hard to find the wounded bulls as well as the problem with no one in the group objecting to the fact that he continued hunting after wounding 1, or 2, or 3... I was told he spotted the 4th bull on his way home from the road and didn't want to go home empty handed. It seems there are a lot of morons out there hunting nowdays.

huntn30inchers · Aug 9, 2014

Bull number 1. Last year I drew my first ever bull tag for a quality unit in Nevada, on day 12 of my hunt I pulled the trigger on my first elk. Unfortunately I pulled the shot low and punched his far leg. Long story short I tracked that bull for 7 miles (during which time I saw 2 MUCH bigger bulls) before I lost the trail, but I continued hunting him. 5 days later I found him, made a clean shot and tagged my bull. I have so much respect for those animals, he wasnt going to give up and neither was I. I also feel like I wasnt a real hunter until that trip and Im damn proud of how it turned out.

hank4elk · Aug 9, 2014

So much for ethics,legality,and ability to shoot with that hunter.And of that entire GANG that was with him.

timberhunter_ · Aug 9, 2014

LAST EDITED ON Aug-09-14 AT 12:23PM (MST)[p]>Bull number 1. Last year I
>drew my first ever bull
>tag for a quality unit
>in Nevada, on day 12
>of my hunt I pulled
>the trigger on my first
>elk. Unfortunately I pulled the
>shot low and punched his
>far leg. Long story short
>I tracked that bull for
>7 miles (during which time
>I saw 2 MUCH bigger
>bulls) before I lost the
>trail, but I continued hunting
>him. 5 days later I
>found him, made a clean
>shot and tagged my bull.
>I have so much respect
>for those animals, he wasnt
>going to give up and
>neither was I. I also
>feel like I wasnt a
>real hunter until that trip
>and Im damn proud of
>how it turned out.

this is something to be proud of. too bad not everybody will put in the effort when things go bad.

if I wounded one elk on a trip I would feel sick for the rest of the hunt, and much longer afterwards. and would put in every effort to retrieve that bull. I probably wouldn't be able to pull the trigger on a different bull. makes me sick how some guys have no ethics, or are just plain stupid.

deerslayer88 · Aug 9, 2014

I respect huntn30, if he can have that much self control to hold out for the wounded elk then man it shows he is a stand up guy.

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CPAjeff · Aug 10, 2014

>I respect huntn30, if he can
>have that much self control
>to hold out for the
>wounded elk then man it
>shows he is a stand
>up guy.
>
>?If men were angels, no government
>would be
>necessary.? John Adams

+1

timberhunter_,
Thanks for sharing that. It is nice to know there are people out there that still have a high regard for the animals we love to pursue.