thanx for the replies. let me know what you find out 200itus that would be greatly appreciated.i have spotted 22" bucks from the north end of the west hills.the operater told me bucks last year were 22"-28" the 28" buck went to a guided client.i have the option of being the last hunter on the ranch in nov.is this a migration area?is nov too late?will the deer be too picked over when i get there'should i hunt earlier?i get 5 hunting days and no scouting.let me know what you guys think.