Probably not with this social distancing. Without it, can’t imagine how bad it could get. We’re paying a heavy price to stop this mess.So 2.2 million Americans aren't going to die?
Probably not with this social distancing. Without it, can’t imagine how bad it could get. We’re paying a heavy price to stop this mess.
Probably not with this social distancing. Without it, can’t imagine how bad it could get. We’re paying a heavy price to stop this mess.
Rush Limbaugh has stage 4 lung cancer. I would imagine if he gets it it kills him. But his cancer will most likely if not.
No.
I usually catch some of his show(shocking for a flaming lib huh?) but I have to always be aware of whose house in working in. Let's just say when there are multiple pics of Obama in the man cave, Rush isn't on the radio.
That’s rough!Us capitalists should stop using the body count to keep score. Lets use unemployment or other economic indicators when we talk about this pandemic. A lot more people know someone thats out of work than someone who died.
Suicide is a choice, CoronaVirus is not.10,000,000 unemployed every month will lead to 10,000 dead real quick.
Hell if the suicide rate doesn't go up, which it will, 1,400 of the ten million will kill themselves. That's pretty jacked up statistics.
Suicide is a choice, CoronaVirus is not.
NOT! I'll always feel more sorrow for someone who wanted to live and was taken by illness than someone who wanted destroy loved ones lives by selfishly taking their own life because they don't have a job to buy a bunch of crap they don't need. Time will heal unemployment, time will not heal death by virus.Gonna be hard to claim the moral high ground if this comes to fruition due to your TDS.
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Pretty soon most all those people will be back to work but those 10,000+ will still be dead.10,000,000 unemployed every month will lead to 10,000 dead real quick.
Hell if the suicide rate doesn't go up, which it will, 1,400 of the ten million will kill themselves. That's pretty jacked up statistics.
lol! Never took you for a flamin lib hoss!
True, but how many of those 10000+ would have died with or without the virus? We don't know those numbers, and we will never know them. A lot of these people are dying from underlying issues, not the virus itself.Pretty soon most all those people will be back to work but those 10,000+ will still be dead.
NOT! I'll always feel more sorrow for someone who wanted to live and was taken by illness than someone who wanted destroy loved ones lives by selfishly taking their own life because they don't have a job to buy a bunch of crap they don't need. Time will heal unemployment, time will not heal death by virus.
I don't even know what TDS means, but don't care enough to look it up. I guess I have TDS if coincides with my opinion.
If it has a picture of Obama it isn't a man cave. FYI
These are responsibilities. It is selfish to leave them to someone else.While they may not be your family they are your neighbors, and co-workers, and clients, and people who children valued and looked up to. They paid bills. Supported businesses, and families. They had a value, in life, much greater than they or apparently you recognize.
No one is ignoring their value, but I am saying that I have more sympathy for someone who dies of CoronaVirus than someone who decides to kill them self over a job loss and leaves their family and loved ones the baggage of the suicide and the problems that the one who kills them self is running from. Suicide is very selfish, especially if it's because of temporary unemployment.Selfish or not that doesn't mean you ignore their value.
If their life had value, then they ignored it not me. You are confusing it with murder. So now you defend suicide?Selfish or not that doesn't mean you ignore their value. Doing so is selfish and self-centered.
Suicide is a choice, CoronaVirus is not.
No one is ignoring their value, but I am saying that I have more sympathy for someone who dies of CoronaVirus than someone who decides to kill them self over a job loss and leaves their family and loved ones the baggage of the suicide and the problems that the one who kills them self is running from. Suicide is very selfish, especially if it's because of temporary unemployment.
Therefore I don't think that our focus should be on unemployment rates while ignoring CoronaVirus death.
Obviously keeping the economy running is important, but if it takes some slowdown and unemployment to save many thousands of lives, then I think it is worth it. I wouldn't trade the life of my loved ones for the many, many thousands that I've lost in my stock portfolio.
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University of Washington, used white house model. They say 126 deaths in Utah by August.
126. A freaking tragedy for the families.
But 126 people and for that we crash Utah's economy? Come on man.
[/QUOTE]I doubt the trucker killed on 89 gives to chits about corona virus. Should we shut down trucking? I mean a life is worth more than money, right?
126 is the number estimated to die now that we have been taking extreme measures to stop the spread. You have to ask how high would that number have gone if we hadn't done anything that hurt the economy? Maybe 10 times that number, maybe 1,000 times that? You need to look at the number of lives saved that would have been lost on and above the 126 and ask if that number of lives was worth crashing the economy. We'll never know what that number would have been so hard to say.
Who's going to make the call to go back to work? And when do they do it? What's the acceptable number of people to sacrifice? That should be a real political football. Trump will be blamed for killing people to benefit his rich friends.
I guess I agree with everything you just said but none of it has anything to do with the point I was making.We do know the number, 10 million,of people laid off.
We do know the damage that is causing.
There is ZERO doubt what that is doing.
Hey Bob ?Hey Eel?
Did I Miss the 'STOP WORK IMMEDIATELY ORDER'?
I’m no expert, so on this one I’ll trust the experts who have use locked down.
Jeezuz Hoss. We get it. You're pissed about the economy. You're pissed because a lot of people have lost their jobs. You're pissed cuz you don't think it will be worth it in the end. It might and it might not. Somebody had to make some decisions. Apparently those decisions weren't made on an internet hunting forum.
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The only thing more dangerous and deadly to the world human population than a virus is climate change. Just ask a scientist. The scientists we bow down to. Are we going down that road next? Or does government have an obligation to save us? By force if needed if it's for our own good?
Or do you think this shelter in place and mandatory shut down is a one time thing?