So who exactly are you Hoss?
You once posted good things about MDF and how you may just join.
You started this thread praising SFW for spending everyone else's money but yours on something beneficial, now you spit on both?
I haven't said a thing about Bair or Don, nor do I praise either of them as "magicians", neither of them are.
FYI Hossblur, I am not even a member of the SFW, never have been!
Nor am I a "flat brimmer" trying to make a name for myself at the Expo by getting my name and face out there for more social media "likes".
Who am i?
I am a 55 year old, very active volunteer of the MDF.
I bust my a s s for them because I KNOW where MY money goes, I put it there with my own hands and with my own shovel.
I believe in our cause and the leadership, my local chapter is family.
I have started several threads here on MM showing project dates, project outcomes, money allocations, banquets, raffles, etc, etc and have gotten very little interest off this site, yet have watched negative threads and posts as a Moderator for 15 years about the DWR failing us all.
What do YOU do for wildlife Hoss? How are YOU helping preserve our hunting heritage for the benefit of your children and grandchildren?
Throwing personal insults to those who are isn't beneficial to anything.
I am proud of what I do and not a single copper coin goes into my pockets, the blisters on my hands and soreness in my back after a project are all I need.
I never said you were a member.
Further, feel free to do a search, my bashing on $FW almost never involves MDF, because other than the expo, I don't see them as similar.
And I was sincere in my limited thanks, figuring guys that are here very often, know that I bang $fw, so a thank you was different.
Had we kept the discussion there, it would have stayed
Now. Unlike you, I'm just a dude who hunts.. I have ZERO income from hunting. I'm not a guide. Not an outfitter. Therefore, I don't support the special interest group that caters to them and their clientele(SFW). I don't support their fleecing of normal dudes opportunity to finance their mission. I'm not bamboozled by poster sized checks, or pheasants. For 3decades WE have pumped millions into $fw, what is the return before this purchase? Declining deer, declining moose, expansion of CWMU, an explosion of corporate hunting.
But this is where IT ALWAYS GOES. Unlike YOU who came in with actual numbers for MDF(which is why I don't bash them almost ever), when the rubber hits the road, it's the same spin.
"Out volunteers.............". Fabulous. Great. Appreciated.
Now where the hell is the money? Volunteers don't get paid, so stop using them to shield the answer.
Am I to believe, that you, who obviously volunteers a bunch, wouldn't volunteer if $
fw/MDF got over 300 tags? That anyone in those groups wouldn't?
I attend banquets. Here's how it works. Tag comes up, 4dudes on phones bidding for clients. Those clients don't give 2shits about conservation, it's a big dick contest for inches. Once thats over, the regular folks get in on a raffle.
I don't go to the expo, but I don't for a second buy that some Canadian oil drillers is concerned with the plight of mule deer in Utah. He wants the head mount and insta fame.
So let's be honest. I did my 30 hours for my dedicated by buying chain saws and winches for the DWR in Price, and spent double for each hour. (didn't even get my nebo sheep for it?). I drop another chunk of coin for banquets. Yeah, I know, not enough, ?.
Now let's be honest. MDF loses more possible members by being involved with $fw than it gains. Myself included. I did tell you I would join. But when rubber met the road, I don't want the stain if those CROOKS to touch me, so I sent the money to RMEF.
I meant what I said. This was a good thing. Land is good However before $FW/MDF start blowing their horns too loud, their other partners don't get hundreds of tags to sell. Amazing how they were capable of doing so, without them. When that gets explained, HONESTLY, let's talk. Let's discuss how RMEF wasn't going to skim. Let's discuss Nature Conservancy buying large deaths of land, without the tags.
I've been sitting here watching for swans on Nature Conservancy land this morning. How many tags should they get?
Dwr IS SHORT STAFFED. Yet somehow a special interest group grabs $12 million+, FROM TAGS(DWR is funded by license sells), but we aren't supposed to notice the correlation?
To quote Brandon, "C'mon man"!!!
Your a stand up guy. I have no issues with you.