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Remember who will be changing your bed pans someday haha my wife and I are “millennials” sadly but I hate the mentality that my whiney generation carries. Lots of woe is me and that’s not fair, it gets old. Hell just work hard and you will get ahead. Shoot though I am crap full of everyone wanting to “tax the rich” we pay so much in taxes it’s disgusting, like go make your own damn moneyMillanials can pound sand, far as I’m concerned. I was once their age and nobody gave two sh!ts about me, what I had or didn’t have or what I thought I was entitled to but I didn’t cry because the older generation had more than I did, I just worked damn hard for what I got.
And they wonder why we call them millaniacs…
Schumer is the only boomer. Brandon, Nanshee, Cocaine Mitch are all pre boomer. All should be long gone from govt. imoBiden's a boomer. So is pelosi, schumer, and mcconnell...
Schumer is the only boomer. Brandon, Nanshee, Cocaine Mitch are all pre boomer. All should be long gone from govt. imo
I agree, it seems like the cost of living has skyrocketed in the last 5-7 years, to the point of it being stupid, my parents “big” house bought in 94’ was 4800 sq for around 275k, same house today is 900k, wages have not kept up pace with inflation at all,Me and my wife are "millennials" Luckily, we both have a higher education and good jobs that both have pensions and good health insurance. Categorically we fall into the "upper class" category, but we definitely do not live that way. We bought a 2000 square foot house (1000 finished) built in 1943 in 2019 for 250k. We both drive used cars. Yet still we cannot afford to upgrade out of our starter home to new home (yes, we do save a lot of money every month). If back when I graduated from high school you told me what we make together I would have thought we were rich with a 5000 square foot house. Brand new truck and SUV with brand new boats, sxs and other toys. We are nowhere near that and live just like I would have thought someone back in 2010 lived with a 50k a year salary.
With that being said. Me, my wife and kid have everything we need and are fortunate to be where we are at now.
On the flip side I know a lot of people my age that have not been able to afford a home because of interest rates and costs of homes. Lots of people with decent jobs with crappy to no retirements with bad insurance. Most of these are single income households where the mother is staying home raising the children. I feel bad for them... But I also understand that life is not fair.
Now I 100% feel that most people need to be in a dual income household to be able to live comfortably (especially if you make less than 100k a year IMO). It is what it is... you can't blame anything on boomers or millennials. Times have changed and there is nothing we can do about it.
Course they do…….. we taught them nothing is their fault so they have nothing to be accountable for…….. especially who they vote for.I would rewrite the article, I think it’s Progressive liberals, socialists policies, and bad monetary policy are to blame, not boomers, plenty of young people who buy into the same bull crap
You’re probably right, I’ll be the miserable old turd that gets my wheel chair kicked down the stairs of the rest home.Remember who will be changing your bed pans someday haha my wife and I are “millennials” sadly but I hate the mentality that my whiney generation carries. Lots of woe is me and that’s not fair, it gets old. Hell just work hard and you will get ahead. Shoot though I am crap full of everyone wanting to “tax the rich” we pay so much in taxes it’s disgusting, like go make your own damn money
Me and my wife are "millennials" Luckily, we both have a higher education and good jobs that both have pensions and good health insurance. Categorically we fall into the "upper class" category, but we definitely do not live that way. We bought a 2000 square foot house (1000 finished) built in 1943 in 2019 for 250k. We both drive used cars. Yet still we cannot afford to upgrade out of our starter home to new home (yes, we do save a lot of money every month). If back when I graduated from high school you told me what we make together I would have thought we were rich with a 5000 square foot house. Brand new truck and SUV with brand new boats, sxs and other toys. We are nowhere near that and live just like I would have thought someone back in 2010 lived with a 50k a year salary.
With that being said. Me, my wife and kid have everything we need and are fortunate to be where we are at now.
On the flip side I know a lot of people my age that have not been able to afford a home because of interest rates and costs of homes. Lots of people with decent jobs with crappy to no retirements with bad insurance. Most of these are single income households where the mother is staying home raising the children. I feel bad for them... But I also understand that life is not fair.
Now I 100% feel that most people need to be in a dual income household to be able to live comfortably (especially if you make less than 100k a year IMO). It is what it is... you can't blame anything on boomers or millennials. Times have changed and there is nothing we can do about it.
Yep. We built our 2 bedroom 2 bath house in 1974 and signed a 25 year loan at 11.25% interest. And then I got up every day and went to work. I'm sitting in that house as I write this.In 97' I bought down my interest rate and was thrilled to get it.
7.25%
Interest rates are historically low.
My folks who built in the 70's was 15%
Yep. We built our 2 bedroom 2 bath house in 1974 and signed a 25 year loan at 11.25% interest. And then I got up every day and went to work. I'm sitting in that house as I write this.
What we paid for this house wouldn't even cover the cost of the building permit now days. Housing is almost impossible for kids these days.
Hahahahahahahaa what a bunch of BS.In 97' I bought down my interest rate and was thrilled to get it.
7.25%
Interest rates are historically low.
My folks who built in the 70's was 15%
Unfortunately, the millennial generation, mostly because they were the first of the lazy generations, turned their noses at the thought of blue collar, or entrepreneurship. They somehow believed that they could hang out in college, then go work for someone else and that was the way to make it.
The older generations looked at opportunities, not schemes.
Same is true today. Colleges are full of kids that see blue collar as beneath them. They will spend $100,000 to get a job that pays less, than what they could of had in the trades, or from building a buisness. But somehow, in their mind, they are "better" and more deserving for being in essence, dumber.
I watched first hand, 20 somethings, buying high end, big custom houses. They'd pull up to take pics of construction in escalades and Yukon's. Wife dressed like a million, little kids all wearing name brands. They'd close on the house, move in, with boats, toy haulers, ATVs. Houses decorated to the max. Hired landscapers, vinyl fences.
I'd watch that from houses we were working on, 12 hours a day, 6 days a week plus half day Sundays and wonder "what the hell I'm I doing wrong".
Then 08' hit, and all those young millennials, we found out, financed their lifestyle from interest only loans and multiple refinances. They hadn't built value, or wealth, they built piggy banks. Now those folks whine because they don't have that wealth that their parents who didn't buy into schemes, have.
A generation in their 40's, still looking for what hurts them, THE EASY WAY. There isn't one. Ask a boomer. Or gen xer
Share which part of what Hossy said that you think was untrue.Hahahahahahahaa what a bunch of BS.
But it was worth a good laugh.
Partication trophyGen X here, what prize do I win? Lol
Two slices of gluten-free avocado toast & a skinny, triple grande, soy latte, non-fat, half-caff, frappuccino with sprinklesGen X here, what prize do I win? Lol
I have never tried coffee, but that sounds impressive.Two slices of gluten-free avocado toast & a skinny, triple grande, soy latte, non-fat, half-caff, frappuccino with sprinkles
The other downside to @hussburr above statement is that with all this whining and feeling of entitlement minimum wage has climbed. Besides the fact that no one wants to get their hands dirty. I have always had a high school kid or two to clean the shop. They knew if they hustled and got their job done you would show them how to weld, do minor vehicle repairs, etc. Those days are GONE. And the quality of help sucks. Most guys now get to work right at start time (or a few minutes late). Then put their crap away, get their coffee, take a 20 minute dump, etc. At quitting time they are already out the door. And I won’t start on having to tell them break/lunch is over and to get back to work.
The climbing minimum wage and what you have to pay someone who can’t get the job done. Has hindered companies from increasing skilled worker wages to compensate for inflation. When skill construction (concrete) workers were making $35 an hour in 1980 the laborers were making $5 an hour. This gave people an incentive to work harder, learn, and hustle.
Todays wage split between skilled and unskilled is creating a merge between low and middle income. One more step towards socialism.
The myth boomer didn’t complain and just went to work is hilarious. Sounds good but it’s a bunch of BS.
Gen X here, what prize do I win? Lol
I never said I didn't complain. I did. Like my dad said, "you don't have to like it, you just have to do it."The myth boomer didn’t complain and just went to work is hilarious. Sounds good but it’s a bunch of BS.
?????They complained. But at work.
Your work is further proof.
Out of state hunting wasn't a thing for boomers. Alaska was a pipe dream.
Now we have to limit NR and yearly states bump prices, and there is still no limit in supply of apps, and it isn't 70 yr olds doing it.
The difference between now and when you bought a house is rent has went through the roof. People used to be able to get by and "sacrifice" while having a stay at home mom pay the bills and rent and still be able to save enough for a down payment on a house that was around 150k that in the end had an interest rate of 11+ percent.Those same kids voted for the people who made building permits cost so much.
I'm betting that house your in is worth at least 10x now?
I know the sacrifices me, and most folks I know made to get a house.
That $1500 iphone, doesn't show much sacrifice.
I say that typing on my $199 Android. Sitting in a stripped down work truck, on a Saturday at work(watching mud dry), on a normal week, which means 60+ hours. Wearing a pair of Keen work boots that I wear everyday, drinking coffee from home, having eaten a piece of toast from home.
Going to work on a millennials house, who I had to wake up this morning, who just left, in his new f150, with earbuds in, with skis on the roof.
Sacrifice. A word kids don't know
Very true. I was chatting with a cashier at the store the other day. I asked him how much he pays for rent. He said $1100 for a three room 2nd story apartment, plus utilities.The difference between now and when you bought a house is rent has went through the roof. People used to be able to get by and "sacrifice" while having a stay at home mom pay the bills and rent and still be able to save enough for a down payment on a house that was around 150k that in the end had an interest rate of 11+ percent.
Now that is a thing of the past... the "sacrifice" in my mind is having a dual income family where both parents work and children are in daycare.... me and my wife have made "sacrifices" that are different than what you made. It has gotten us to a point where we have a good living. But on the other hand their are people that do not want to make that "sacrifice" and because of that home ownership is unattainable because of high rent and being unable to save money for a down payment.
On the other hand playing devils advocate that you obviously did not "sacrifice" enough because you are in an older generation having to wake up on a Saturday using a 199 dollar phone in a stripped down truck to be able to make a living. Where I am sitting at home. Woke up at 5am to go to the gym on a Saturday then spend time with my family.... I guess I could go get another job for weekends to "sacrifice" a little more to make more money... but to me I would rather spend that time with my family.
In the end I am not saying your prospective is right or wrong.... but everyone lives different lives. My generation you cannot say that it is not harder today to be able to afford a house... even with those lower interest rates inflation and rent increases has screwed a lot of people over.
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The difference between now and when you bought a house is rent has went through the roof. People used to be able to get by and "sacrifice" while having a stay at home mom pay the bills and rent and still be able to save enough for a down payment on a house that was around 150k that in the end had an interest rate of 11+ percent.
Now that is a thing of the past... the "sacrifice" in my mind is having a dual income family where both parents work and children are in daycare.... me and my wife have made "sacrifices" that are different than what you made. It has gotten us to a point where we have a good living. But on the other hand their are people that do not want to make that "sacrifice" and because of that home ownership is unattainable because of high rent and being unable to save money for a down payment.
On the other hand playing devils advocate that you obviously did not "sacrifice" enough because you are in an older generation having to wake up on a Saturday using a 199 dollar phone in a stripped down truck to be able to make a living. Where I am sitting at home. Woke up at 5am to go to the gym on a Saturday then spend time with my family.... I guess I could go get another job for weekends to "sacrifice" a little more to make more money... but to me I would rather spend that time with my family.
In the end I am not saying your prospective is right or wrong.... but everyone lives different lives. My generation you cannot say that it is not harder today to be able to afford a house... even with those lower interest rates inflation and rent increases has screwed a lot of people over.
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Luckily me and my wife had made “sacrifices” to be where we are at now. We definitely can afford to do what we want. But a lot of people my age don’t have that luxury. I 100% understand that I could make more if I worked weekends but luckily I can afford not to!"Have to"?
Nah.
But come Sept-Jan, I like to hunt. So that pile of cash I make "having to" work today pays for that vs Visa or MC, or home equity loans.
I work in people's homes daily. The things you see, vs what people say is funny. Things folks don't really think about.
Did your grandpa hire a landscaper? How about a handyman? A disaster clean up company? Car detailer?
Hell the job I'm doing today, a elbow through a wall fr kids wrestling.
Boomers would just fix it. Millennials, even with YouTube to show them how, just hire it.
$300, for a few hours work, most of which is watching hot mud dry because there's a generational mindset difference.
$300 is groceries for a week for his family, now instead of investing in his own wealth, he invested in mine.
I don't do much repair work for boomers, and almost never hang sheetrock for them, they will always try to do as much as they can before they call a pro. That's just the mindset.
Your family and gym mindset isn't wrong, but it does affect your "wealth"
Luckily me and my wife had made “sacrifices” to be where we are at now. We definitely can afford to do what we want. But a lot of people my age don’t have that luxury. I 100% understand that I could make more if I worked weekends but luckily I can afford not to!
What does my hobby have to do with this conversation? I also pick up giant moose sheds. Do I need a degree for that?Sorry, I missed it.
Which university did you get your guiding degree from?
That’s pretty cool eelgrass. When I was young I was the same way, packed lunch. Now a days I’m always taking clients out to lunch or being taken out to lunch it seems. A couple days back I bought lunch for the company. It goes a long ways buying lunch for the crew.One difference I noticed that Hoss reminded me of. In 40+ years of working I never once went out for fast food for lunch or bought coffee out of a vending machine. The younger guys pile into their cars and go buy lunch. A lunch box and a thermos for me. That's a lot of money saved over 40 years.
I should have worked for you. I was on the safety committee for a few years. The company bought us dinner when we had our quarterly meetings.A couple days back I bought lunch for the company. It goes a long ways buying lunch for the crew.
Well I hope so. After all the clients give you the work so your employees keep their jobs ?Christmas dinners……. from a couple of employees. That was about it.
Bosses pay for a lot more meal tickets with clients a hell of a lot more often than do for employees. Always have, alway will.
Every Thanksgiving and Christmas every employee got a gift card to a locally owned grocery store. Not Safeway or other national chain. A mom and pop's store. With about 150 employees, it boosted their business. Unfortunately there aren't many mom and pop stores left.Christmas dinners……. from a couple of employees. That was about it.
Bosses pay for a lot more meal tickets with clients a hell of a lot more often than do for employees. Always have, alway will.
Yep…… been both. I know the score from most all perspectives.Well I hope so. After all the clients give you the work so your employees keep their jobs ?
We have a a dozen or so vendors that buy my company fishing charters up here. By the end of summer I’m sick and tired of going out fishing for halibut, lingcod and rockfish. I would rather they take my workers but they are not interested it that. They want to take the people that cut the 250k PO numbers. Not the guy that installs their products. But the workers don’t see it that way. They see the PMs and owners going out fishing for free. Last summer the dates the deWalt rep picked didn’t work for any of my office guys or me. When I said I would send one to my foremen he wasn’t interested and it turned into maybe next year.
So it’s not always what it seems. Hard for workers to understand that. But I do make sure my guys get their freezers with halibut and salmon ?
In 97' I bought down my interest rate and was thrilled to get it.
7.25%
Interest rates are historically low.
My folks who built in the 70's was 15%
Unfortunately, the millennial generation, mostly because they were the first of the lazy generations, turned their noses at the thought of blue collar, or entrepreneurship. They somehow believed that they could hang out in college, then go work for someone else and that was the way to make it.
The older generations looked at opportunities, not schemes.
Same is true today. Colleges are full of kids that see blue collar as beneath them. They will spend $100,000 to get a job that pays less, than what they could of had in the trades, or from building a buisness. But somehow, in their mind, they are "better" and more deserving for being in essence, dumber.
I watched first hand, 20 somethings, buying high end, big custom houses. They'd pull up to take pics of construction in escalades and Yukon's. Wife dressed like a million, little kids all wearing name brands. They'd close on the house, move in, with boats, toy haulers, ATVs. Houses decorated to the max. Hired landscapers, vinyl fences.
I'd watch that from houses we were working on, 12 hours a day, 6 days a week plus half day Sundays and wonder "what the hell I'm I doing wrong".
Then 08' hit, and all those young millennials, we found out, financed their lifestyle from interest only loans and multiple refinances. They hadn't built value, or wealth, they built piggy banks. Now those folks whine because they don't have that wealth that their parents who didn't buy into schemes, have.
A generation in their 40's, still looking for what hurts them, THE EASY WAY. There isn't one. Ask a boomer. Or gen xer
Yep, we did LTD. That’s not all we screwed up either. I’ll own what we did…….. one thing we didn’t do, for sure, that the WWII generation did for us, is kick your asses near enough. LOLSo in 08 the oldest Millennial was 27 or 28. So most of the foreclosures was the tail end of the Gen Xers, I know the foreclosed home I bought in 08 at 23 was from a gen xer. So not sure how many millennials homes you were working on.
I also know banks at that time in 2007 were offering 10x your salary to buy a home, which anyone who studied math realized this was not really feasible....it was not millennials who were offering those loans that didn't make financial sense.
Also I do find it funny that boomers are mostly the parents of millennials, and somehow this whole generation of millennials turned out awful but the parenting of boomers was amazing. Just weird they could all go so far off course.
There are winners and losers in all generations, comparing the top 5% of boomers to the biggest cry babies of the millennials is not really apples to apples. Are there Gen Z kids that are lazy and are afraid to get driver's license, yes, but I know a bunch that lettered in 3 sports, volunteered for a charity, worked and got good grades. I'm guessing they will be the winners in their generation and they won't need to can fruits or vegetables to do it.
No matter the generation, anyone working just 40 hours a week isn't going to get ahead. One of my best friends will be quasi retired by 40, she didn't get there by being lazy.
I'm pretty sure boomers gave us point systems and that is unforgivable, lol.
So in 08 the oldest Millennial was 27 or 28. So most of the foreclosures was the tail end of the Gen Xers, I know the foreclosed home I bought in 08 at 23 was from a gen xer. So not sure how many millennials homes you were working on.
I also know banks at that time in 2007 were offering 10x your salary to buy a home, which anyone who studied math realized this was not really feasible....it was not millennials who were offering those loans that didn't make financial sense.
Also I do find it funny that boomers are mostly the parents of millennials, and somehow this whole generation of millennials turned out awful but the parenting of boomers was amazing. Just weird they could all go so far off course.
There are winners and losers in all generations, comparing the top 5% of boomers to the biggest cry babies of the millennials is not really apples to apples. Are there Gen Z kids that are lazy and are afraid to get driver's license, yes, but I know a bunch that lettered in 3 sports, volunteered for a charity, worked and got good grades. I'm guessing they will be the winners in their generation and they won't need to can fruits or vegetables to do it.
No matter the generation, anyone working just 40 hours a week isn't going to get ahead. One of my best friends will be quasi retired by 40, she didn't get there by being lazy.
I'm pretty sure boomers gave us point systems and that is unforgivable, lol.
.81 an hour??? I was only getting .75 an hour.I hear stories about how folks are working two jobs to make ends meet now days. I hear how much homes cost. I hear how much vehicles cost. I hear it’s $3.50 for gasoline. McDonald’s fish sandwich is $6.29, Wendy’s 4 Chicken Nuggets is $$4.79. Krispy Crème Donut is advertising $13.00 per hour, starting pay, and begging people to work. Nearly every fast food location in Utah has a help wanted sign on their door.
In 1961 my wages were $2.00 a day. In 1966 they were 81 cents an hour. In 1973, with a Bachelors Degree in Business Management my wages were $5.75. (I built houses full time so it took me five years to graduate.) My buddies shamed me for buying a single wide trailer to living. in at college. I did it so I’d have a down payment on a house when I graduated.) A month after I graduated I put down $3000 for a new house, in the cheapest subdivision in the city. It was 24’ wide by 40’ long, 960 square feet. Cost was $22,500. Three years later my wages I sold the house for $44,500 (how’s that for inflation) built a new 1,490 sq. ft home two years later, cost me $43,000 in 1977. I’m still living in it 47 years later. In 1977 my wages jumped to $6.90……… From $5.75 from $6.90 during some of the inflationary years. From 1977 until 1983 I work three jobs. 8 to 5 for a a local Oil company, 5 to 9 at a gas station and I keep books for a technology non-profit on the weekends. In 1983 I went partnership and started an Apple Computer Dealership, in deep rural Utah. In 1988 my partners wanted out and we sold it, the partners agree to accept payment over ten years. Nine months into the agreement the buyer filed bankruptcy. I went to work for the company that bought the assets from the bankruptcy liquidation. I worked for the new owner until he had paid the loan off he had taken out to buy the assets, straight commission sales. In 1994 went work for a local school district for $17.50 an hour. In 1988 my wife had to go to work to help feed and cloth our children. It took every penny. I had a Browning BAR .338, I’d saved up and bought it a RMEF dinner back in the early 1990’s. Never fired it. I think I pawned and buy it back at least 4 different times in order to make my house mortgage payment. I bought and sold 3 different Remington 870 wing master shotguns to pay various past due utility bills. I payed the mortgage on my house of 17 years ago, but still I borrow money to by a vehicle. I very rarely by new vehicles, usually find one with 15,000 to 40,000 miles on them, drive them until they are completely worn out.
Has life been easy…….. not in my opinion. Yet I feel like I’ve lived as well as anyone one alive. My children, all 5, have grown up and raised hard working patriotic children. Together and alone, they have traveled the country and the world. They have hunted/fished in Asia, Africa, Mexico, Alaska, Canada, Central America and countless of 48 US States. Been on numerous business trips to China. Served in combat for the US armed forces. Build their own successful businesses. They golf, fish, snow ski, cook their own meals, dine at great restaurants, swear too much, some take a shot of whiskey on occasion, some pay tithes, My wife and have been retired for 11 years this May. We live with in our means on the savings and investments we made with out a hell of a lot of discretionary money that had left over each month.
I can understand our twenty year olds looking at the world today and being discouraged and depressed when it come to economics and financial matters. Vehicles cost $65,000 and more, houses cost $400,000 and more, Disney World cost $190 a day, bullets for a 30 Nosler $110 a box, a 18’ fishing boat $24,000, Motel rooms $260 a night, Big Mac meal $9.69, eBike $4,600, ATV $16,000, etc etc.
It’s that all the twenty year olds will settle for, as they enter the work force, I guess they’ll just have to call us greedy and self center. Drop down to older used car, a 1000 sq ft house, work two jobs and the weekend, ride a peddle bike, by a 270 caliber Savage, get by with a used 14’ aluminum boat with a used 6 hp outboard, go to local National Park on vacation, eat at pork and chicken at home, sleep in a tent in October, hunt in Wranglers and a Cargartt parka. Wear Rocky boots.
Is that stuff cool, comfortable, spacious, high quality, fashionable……… nope, it’s cheap. Will it get you there and back, yea it will, and you might even enjoy the ride.
Here’s my guess, the hard workers, the independent, driven to survive and to thrive under adversity will do just fine, those that won’t are going to struggle. Seems pretty similar to what us boomers went through. Nobody paid for our $5.00 ribeye then and nobody pays for our $50.00 ribeye today.
You probably had a white collar job. Pumping gas at a service station used to pay better. My job was so valuable they canceled it before canceling was woke..81 an hour??? I was only getting .75 an hour.
It wasn't all boomers, as about half of boomers were too young. There were many from the silent generation.It was all boomers who went to Vietnam where 75,000 of them died and the rest got spit on when they returned, and nobody would hire those crazy unstable misfits. Some are still living on the streets.
This is very spot on, my nephews and cousins definitely are way more risk averse and calm. Just different. Also seeing the same battle with school as well.But, they also are pretty risk averse. They aren't as wild as I was. They aren't as horny either?. They unfortunately had covid teach them about how stupid school is so there's that battle.
Working on a farm running suck tubes.You probably had a white collar job. Pumping gas at a service station used to pay better. My job was so valuable they canceled it before canceling was woke.
Not to be nosey but are you on a pension?My first job right out of high school was salary. $377/month as a forest fire fighter. California was a rich state even back in 1966.
Not to be nosey but are you on a pension?
No. I worked for California Division of Forestry (now called Cal Fire) for 2 summers while going to college. At the end of my 2nd summer, they offered me a full time year around job as a fire truck driver but I turned it down.Not to be nosey but are you on a pension?
Let’s see that journeyman card you have? How does it feel to be in an unskilled trade with no certifications? ???Which university did you get your guiding degree in?
Not to be nosy of course
No I meant at the sawmill you worked out. I mean you didn’t go out to eat for 40 years so was that to save for retirement??No. I worked for California Division of Forestry (now called Cal Fire) for 2 summers while going to college. At the end of my 2nd summer, they offered me a full time year around job as a fire truck driver but I turned it down.
You ever passed any classes in microbiology SS! Just curious?Let’s see that journeyman card you have? How does it feel to be in an unskilled trade with no certifications? ???
Yessum….let’s hear it.You ever passed any classes in microbiology SS! Just curious?
Then you know hoss doesn’t lack for intellectual confidence, with or with out a journyman’s card.Yessum….let’s hear it.
No pension from the mill. I invested through their 401k plan though. That's why I didn't eat out. Every Sunday my wife would bake a cake or a pie or cookies to take in my lunch the following week. My sweetheart got into such a habit of doing that, that she still does that to this day. This week will be oatmeal cookies.No I meant at the sawmill you worked out. I mean you didn’t go out to eat for 40 years so was that to save for retirement??
Let’s see that journeyman card you have? How does it feel to be in an unskilled trade with no certifications? ???
I didn’t ask for BS in microbiology.Want to see my BS in microbiology?
Don't hide. You ran your mouth, now back it up.
That’s pretty sweet. I figured you were old enough to likely be under a pension system. Always enjoy your stories eel.No pension from the mill. I invested through their 401k plan though. That's why I didn't eat out. Every Sunday my wife would bake a cake or a pie or cookies to take in my lunch the following week. My sweetheart got into such a habit of doing that, that she still does that to this day. This week will be oatmeal cookies
Can’t argue that. Sheetrock is hard work for low pay. We use one of the more expensive contractors in town and he’s at 2.50 a ft hung taped and painted. Seems like a deal every time we use them.About 22 years ago I added on a 16X16' family room with a vaulted ceiling onto our house. I subbed the foundation and the electrical out and did the rest myself, including the drywall and texturing. I worked my butt off on the drywall and think I saved about $5. Hoss has my undying respect.
I did ask for yours
Is that the same thing as being a "packer" for a licensed guide in Alaska?There's an apprenticeship program. Confused? Its a program the skilled trades used to teach the workers while they are earning a wage
A few years ago I looked into being a guide in Alaska to get around the rules of a NR having to be with a guide to hunt sheep/ Mtn Goat/etc. A lot of requirements to make it work.Why are you obsessed with my hobby? Looking for a career change? You're probably thinking that its similar to Utah's outfitter requirements. Which are similar to being a drywaller in UT. You just buy a business license and get after it. No training needed. Same in Alaska? Not even close. But since you asked...
There's an apprenticeship program. Confused? Its a program the skilled trades used to teach the workers while they are earning a wage. After your apprenticeship the next step is an Assistant Guide(AG). Once you get enough hours as an AG you can test to become a registered guide(RG). It is at this level you can start your own business and book hunters etc. Apprentices and AG must work for a RG. The final level is Master Guide. To become a master guide you have to be a RG for "X" amount of time before you can take the test. Once you take the test you can advertise being as such. Besides costing more to renew its doesn't give you any more benefits.
I'm not aware of a state that has a more rigorous program to become a guide than AK. If you know of one I'd like to know. It's always interesting to see what other states are doing.
Also you're interested in joining a skilled trade we may be hiring some apprentices this fall. Can't be afraid of bears or heights. If you're serious send me a PM.
Why are you obsessed with my hobby? Looking for a career change? You're probably thinking that its similar to Utah's outfitter requirements. Which are similar to being a drywaller in UT. You just buy a business license and get after it. No training needed. Same in Alaska? Not even close. But since you asked...
There's an apprenticeship program. Confused? Its a program the skilled trades used to teach the workers while they are earning a wage. After your apprenticeship the next step is an Assistant Guide(AG). Once you get enough hours as an AG you can test to become a registered guide(RG). It is at this level you can start your own business and book hunters etc. Apprentices and AG must work for a RG. The final level is Master Guide. To become a master guide you have to be a RG for "X" amount of time before you can take the test. Once you take the test you can advertise being as such. Besides costing more to renew its doesn't give you any more benefits.
I'm not aware of a state that has a more rigorous program to become a guide than AK. If you know of one I'd like to know. It's always interesting to see what other states are doing.
Also you're interested in joining a skilled trade we may be hiring some apprentices this fall. Can't be afraid of bears or heights. If you're serious send me a PM.
Kevin,I'm not obsessed.
But when someone has such all knowing opinions, such as yourself, then it seems only fair, that we know where such opinions come from.
Your ", knowledge" on this subject is simply opinion.
What I did was let you take enough "dumbass drywaller cracks", so that you couldn't claim you didn't, then, pointed out, or rather Lumpy did, that this "dumbass" actually had a degree, unlike you, so I could speak on both sides.
I just let you dig your own hole, and now I'm watching you try to spin out.
It's ok little fella. You tried hard. Like you do in so many subjects where everyone reading your responses, can easily spot your lack of any knowledge.
So you apprenticed with a journeyman, and aren't afraid of heights. So did, and so are the "jalapenos" you think you're better than.
Its difficult for sure. But its about protecting the resource for one. Whats interesting is once you become a guide even if you live out the state you would have to still go guided unless maybe you are a RG or MG. I would have to look in to it to be sure.A few years ago I looked into being a guide in Alaska to get around the rules of a NR having to be with a guide to hunt sheep/ Mtn Goat/etc. A lot of requirements to make it work.
Really can not make do it happen with a full time job and family unless you live in Alaska.
Kevin,
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you got me! You choose to compare my hobby to your career hahaha. You got me good rookie. And sorry my opinions bother you. Yours don't bother me, in fact they are entertaining.
I didn't think you were a dumbass until now. If you have a microbiology degree in your back pocket and you're working for wages well than...well...you know what I think of you.
I don't think I'm better than anyone except ever person in Utah. But to be fair I think everyone that lives outside that state is better off. Of course just related to hunting. Outside hunting Utah is a beautiful state.
No holes dug here, and if one is needed I'll be sure to call you or jose and the jalapenos.