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    Mule Deer Proposal

    I wasn’t necessarily trying to defend the CWMU program, just saying that making people use their points to purchase a CWMU tag is not going to sit well with the CWMU hunters or owners. I have had mixed experiences with CWMUs and I really don’t have any strong feelings one way or another if the...
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    Mule Deer Proposal

    Not sure what I said to trigger the H bomb? I think it could jeopardize the CWMU program because the success of the CWMU program depends largely on the willingness of landowners to participate. The landowners expect hunters to pay top dollar for CWMU vouchers. Although many people would still...
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    Mule Deer Proposal

    Perhaps this is true most of the time, but I was offered an opportunity to buy a discounted CWMU voucher that someone had already purchased and decided to opt out. I would not have done it if it erased my points. I would not underestimate the frugality of wealthy people. It would not have been...
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    Mule Deer Proposal

    I guess you got all the facts.
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    Mule Deer Proposal

    No, purchase of a CWMU tag should not cost points because this would disincentivize people from buying these tags and it could jeopardize the whole CWMU program.
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    Mule Deer Proposal

    I misused the term PP, but Utah actually treats their BPs like PP for half of the permits as they allocate half of the permits to applicants with the most BPs. So I really should have suggested to cap BPs at some level, preferably at a level that is several points above the current maximum...
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    Mule Deer Proposal

    I think that the Utah’s 50:50 PP/BP system is okay, but I think they should cap the number of PP as soon as possible. A person with 30 PPs should have as much chance as anybody else to draw a PP permit. At some point, enough is enough.
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    Mule Deer Proposal

    Random is probably best, but bonus points or bonus points squared is defensible. Utah’s 50:50 PP/BP has some merit, but the long-term outlook for the PP permits is bleak. Eventually PP permits will be reserved for people that live the longest. It doesn’t really make sense to have a system where...
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    Mule Deer Proposal

    The DWR folks are just people. I presume many of them are hunters. I think people often come up with ideas that serve themselves over the interest of others. This is one of those ideas. Did they do this intentionally? Maybe not, but they did not go out of their way to think about downstream...
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    PP/BP or random

    Why not include the female (doe/cow) in the same draw with bucks and bulls? There is already point creep in the cow elk draw, so why not just put these in with the bull elk draw? Is a cow hunt really any different than a spike bull hunt? I think most states lump male and female in the same...
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    Mule Deer Proposal

    The proposal outlined in the OP has two parts. The first part involves the way that deer tags are allocated. It has potential to address point creep, which is a real problem imo. The second part involves the deer hunting seasons. I agree with you that this is a bunch of BS. Seems like UT...
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    Mule Deer Proposal

    Yes, they can get LL tag if they fail to draw a LE tag, but they will not accrue new points if they accept the the LL tag. It does give the LLs an advantage over “everyone else”, but it seems like a reasonable compromise to me. Just for the record, I am not a LL person and I think the LL system...
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    Mule Deer Proposal

    In this proposal, I believe that “everyone else” loses all points if they draw a tag. The LLs only lose points if they draw a LE tag, and they have option to gain a point if they decline the option to take their GS permit.
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    Watcha gonna do?

    You are asking for trouble taking long shots, especially on the opening day of a general season hunt. It is unlikely, or very lucky, that you will anchor that deer down without having him get up and attract the attention of other hunters that might be closer than you are. They end up making the...
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    Bear River Zone Idaho

    Meh
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