If a 147eld impacts an elk at 2200fps, does the elk know if it was killed with a creedmoor or a PRC? Does he tip his hat to the hunter shooting a classy 6.5x55 or the sexy 6.5x284?The 6.5 Creedmor was designed to punch paper and steel at the range all day long without making your shoulder hamburger meat. The PRC outperforms is just about all metrics except recoil, cost, and ammo availability. In a hunting application, I would always go with the PRC. I personally shoot a 6.5-284 Norma. Ammo can be hard to find, and kinda expensive. Even the old 6.5x55 had better ballistics than the CM. Every 6.5mm/260cal outperforms the CM, except the Grendel, I believe. But then there are those loyal CM shooters who claim "It'll drop an elk in its tracks at 700 yards all day long". Let the bashing begin boys!
So true!People spend way too much time debating cartridges. The guy behind the trigger is what really matters!
Yep. The animal couldn’t care less which gun sent the bullet that put a hole through his heart.People spend way too much time debating cartridges. The guy behind the trigger is what really matters!
I agree. I'm just saying if you hit it a foot back and 7 inches high, you would want the bigger bullet. I know, the key is to hit it in the right spot, but stuff happens.The larger calibers make the errors larger. Haha.
I’ve seen so many guys bang away with large caliber rifles. It’s really sad. I think maybe a reason is because the gun is not fun and not cheap to shoot.
Put that 143 grain right behind the front shoulder and let r rip. Creedmoor all the way!!!
Needmore ammo cause the thing is so much fun to shoot!It's called the 6.5 needmore for a reason !
It really depends on the wind/terrain, and how much I’ve been shooting that year. Making the right wind call beyond 600 yards is where the rubber meets the road. I hesitate to put a number on it. For instance say it’s a buck at 700 yards, dead calm wind, or very consistent, and he’s more or less on an open hillside. That deer is dead. Same shot but cross canyon (unpredictable wind), edge of cover or easily gone from sight; no shot. Check out the cold bore challenge on Rokslide; awesome way to test your skills and give a more realistic idea of max range in the field. Hopefully they will do it again this spring/summer.Out of curiosity, you guys that shoot super accurate with the creedmoor, at what distance do you say it is too far? For me I draw the line at about 500 and always try to get closer if I can.
Thanks for the post. Somewhat agree to disagree on the last paragraph. I'm not saying you should get a big caliber gun if you can't shoot it as well because you'll have a bigger margin of error. But if you can shoot it well it is absolutely true that you will have a bigger margin for error. A 200 grain ELDX bullet out of my 300 WSM going almost 2,900 ft a second is going to have much better chance of putting down a deer than a creedmoor if the shot is marginal.It really depends on the wind/terrain, and how much I’ve been shooting that year. Making the right wind call beyond 600 yards is where the rubber meets the road. I hesitate to put a number on it. For instance say it’s a buck at 700 yards, dead calm wind, or very consistent, and he’s more or less on an open hillside. That deer is dead. Same shot but cross canyon (unpredictable wind), edge of cover or easily gone from sight; no shot. Check out the cold bore challenge on Rokslide; awesome way to test your skills and give a more realistic idea of max range in the field. Hopefully they will do it again this spring/summer.
Yes the PRC will impact with 150-200fps more velocity at a given range..but does that really translate into more killing power? Creedmoor case is right at the edge of being tolerate and easily spotting your shots through the scope. PRC unbraked is a bit above that threshold. And brakes are a great way to blow out your hearing and your buddies; and to induce a flinch from the concussive blast.
Some guys will be willing to shoot their PRC enough to develop good technique and skill..most probably won’t. I shoot a few thousands rounds per year and it’s still not enough to be truly proficient at extended range.
A bigger gun is not a good answer for giving more “margin for error” you still need to hit him in the lungs
I would not argue with that at all. 200eldx will make a mess! But, I’d rather have a 140eldm than a 180gr accubond. So definitely I think the bullets matter most in the end.Thanks for the post. Somewhat agree to disagree on the last paragraph. I'm not saying you should get a big caliber gun if you can't shoot it as well because you'll have a bigger margin of error. But if you can shoot it well it is absolutely true that you will have a bigger margin for error. A 200 grain ELDX bullet out of my 300 WSM going almost 2,900 ft a second is going to have much better chance of putting down a deer than a creedmoor if the shot is marginal.
Yes of course we want to hit him through the lungs and then it doesn't matter either way. However, if you hunt long enough you will have a shot that is not a double lunger.
I agree with you, and I am also bald. I shoot a 6.5-284 Norma as well. My brother shoots a 6.5PRC, my other brother shoots a 6.5x55 Swede, and my niece shoots a 6.5 Creedmor. I also shoot a 264 Win Mag.If you have a "man bun", go with the Creedmoor. I hear you need one to shoot it effectively.
I actually own a 6.5 CM and I used it to kill my Stone Sheep. That said, I prefer my new 6.5X284 which is a cousin to the PRC.
Also, I'm bald so I don't have a man bun.
As in need more oomph, unless you’re referring to the ladies and feeble old men.It's called the 6.5 needmore for a reason !
Yep. There are hunters, and there are shooters.If I ever take a jump into the 6.5 zone, it would be a PRC with a suppressor. That solves the issue of the extra recoil and muzzle blast.
As it is, I will stick with my 270 for deer and 7 mm rem mag for elk.
But then I don’t shoot at elk or deer from a 1/2 mile away. Never will.
I've actually have two of both calibers.Nice bulls slamdunk. The wimpy side of the comparison was probably for a petite wife/girlfriend, or a feeble older gentleman.
I think i saw you in a man bun at the Sheep Show.If you have a "man bun", go with the Creedmoor. I hear you need one to shoot it effectively.
I actually own a 6.5 CM and I used it to kill my Stone Sheep. That said, I prefer my new 6.5X284 which is a cousin to the PRC.
Also, I'm bald so I don't have a man bun.
Like it was said both will do the job... Hornady 143s in Creed are $49 a box 2700 fps muzzle ... PRC same exact shell $56 a box 2960 fps ... 35 cents a shoot more for PRC . Both zeroed at 200 yards the Creed drops 7.9 inches at 300 yards the PRC 6.4 at 300 NOT a big difference at all !!Needing a little help with this friends...
6.5 Creedmore vs 6.5 PRC for Mule deer
Like it was said both will do the job... Hornady 143s in Creed are $49 a box 2700 fps muzzle ... PRC same exact shell $56 a box 2960 fps ... 35 cents a shoot more for PRC . Both zeroed at 200 yards the Creed drops 7.9 inches at 300 yards the PRC 6.4 at 300 NOT a big difference at all !!