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:ROFLMAO:, you know as well as me that 18 points didn't stand a chance for 3002 but 18 should have been golden for 3140. Absolutely there seems to be a serious error on AZGFD and I hope that marchery gets it resolved and he gets the tag he deserves.(3140) of course.

:ROFLMAO:, Looking at his draw app I 100% agree that the AZGFD has made an error. He asked for a name of someone to contact and I provided one. Maybe he already tried to contact her I'm not sure but if he didn't and doesn't try well that's on him.

:ROFLMAO:, Looking at marchery draw app I'm a little curious why he waisted his time putting down 3002 as his first choice. With 18 points and knowing the draw as well as he does and studying past draw reports like I'm sure he did he had to know that he had zero chance at getting in the bonus...

Apparently marachery for short put in for elk as a NR but has an AZ lifetime license which should preclude him from the 10% cap and he didn't get drawn. If that's the case I would definitely try and get a hold of Callie. She will be the one that will have the answers and hopefully a solution.

Call Callie Cavalcant

How many of you put in on the application

Go ahead and prove me wrong. Hunt# 3140 tells the tale

According to the report there were 2 Residents that put archery 10 as their !st&2nd choices and both drew, so either your dad didn't have the points he thought he did, put down the wrong hunt number or maybe a call is warranted?

You might want to actually take a look at the bonus report before you call and make a full of yourself. According to the draw report For Hunt# 3140 3A/3C archery bull there were 4 residents that put that hunt down as their 1st&2nd choice and all 4 drew

If you're talking about early archery elk 3C Hunt# 3140 there were 4 Residents total that put that hunt down as their 1st&2nd choice with 18 points and all 4 drew so I dont know what you're talking about.

You can go to the AZGFD web page and listen to the April 14th meeting, according to their agenda the deer order was item #3. I'd be willing to bet they passed all the orders as they were presented and the 27 hunt was passed.

Almost 3 weeks ago.

:ROFLMAO:, I didn't expect much out of you and I'd be willing to bet that I could put my knowledge of the draw and how it works up against you any day of the week.

I have attached the draw reports for hunt #4001(unit 1 first hunt). For those of you that use these reports as an audit tool I'm curious what are some of the issues you're checking for?

I think it would be in your best interest to quit trying to put your head up your ass in the first place :ROFLMAO:

The fact you use BRO and name calling ensures me you're not the one people want auditing the draw for them :ROFLMAO:. The delay in the draw reports is the department having to put them in crayon format so you can understand them.

Bro, you're the slow one, rather than cry and whine about draw reports put your big boy pants on and go straight to the source. Contact the person in charge and ask all the questions you need to ask about draw accuracy. The AZGFD provides email addresses for all the commissioners, email them...

Seems to me if they are posted by the end of next week that's timely enough figuring the next elk draw is 9 months away.

I never said they weren't important, and I enjoy the heck out of them and it's not because I don't trust the AZGFD, but whining because they're not made public a couple weeks after the draw results come out is ridiculous. If you're really concerned about the draw file the paperwork needed for...

I have never seen anywhere where the AZGFD promised draw reports let alone in a timely manner, seems like it's just something they do as a courtesy, If you want what you think is public information fill out the paperwork and ask for it but it will cost you otherwise you've got a year before the...

What's a timely matter, the next elk draw isnt until next January. I'm surprised they post them at all seems to me they could sell them and make some money.

By the numbers: 24,863: The total number of hunt permit-tags issued. 225,376: The total number of those who applied for hunts or bonus points. 184,489: The total number of applications submitted. It doesn't seem like that many years ago when 120,000 applicants were breaking records and now...

They haven’t even posted the 2023 spring report yet and that draw was in late October

If a 25-point holder put in with a group the points would be reflected in the draw report as the point average.

DYI

Going to be 5 years before you can use Duwane Adams:ROFLMAO:

Yes, the youth hunts are for antlerless elk and provide excellent opportunity on public land. Unit 10 is the only unit that isn't predominantly NF land.

Pretty sure bonus points started for deer at the same time they did for Antelope and Elk (1991) so there could have been a maximum of 33 so 27 bonus points for deer isn't out of the question. Nothing unnatural going on.

Absolutely you can draw unit 1 archery with 7 points but it will have to be in the random.

I believe it's about 17 miles of pavement from Alpine to Big Lake

It could have possibly been Amber's replacement Callie Cavalcant, her prior job was Game Data Manager.

Callie Cavalcant

If you were thinking of Amber Munig she retired Jan. 4th.

Reports definitely have some serious discrepancies.

I wonder if that is because no other western states give NR more than 10% of their tags to begin with?

Coming from a yappy dog:ROFLMAO:

Everyone that thinks the AZGFD is shady, it's pretty simple. Don't support them, problem solved.

There are 15 WT left for the quota in 23 so my guess is at minimum it will go until the 11th of January, hopefully if you're a NR you applied online for a deer tag as you wont be able to buy one OTC, good luck on your hunt, PS there will be a fair amount of snow in the N part of 23

23 quota for MD has been met, WT is still open, I was in 6B this morning and a buddy of mine was in 6A no pigs and it is a wet sloppy mess.