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Elkster- I was never any good at math and that is why I went to law school. ;) Hawkeye

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I think Don left this forum shortly after we tried to arrange the public debate between him and Randy Newburg. Those were the good ol’ days!

Lumpy- Thanks for the response. I always enjoy a productive discussion even if we don’t agree on certain points. I personally think the bureaucrats and the leaders of these groups are very closely aligned. For instance, as I posted several times over the years, Don and his entities have made...

Lumpy- This might be a first - you and I agreeing on a substantive issue. 😁 If Don Peay and SFW are no longer supporting habitat improvement projects for mule deer, what exactly are they spending those millions of dollars in conservation permit and expo permit money on these days? I...

jims- The WRI website posted by middlefork above shows projects going back to 2006. See https://wri.utah.gov/wri/ According to that site, Utah has completed 2,707 projects and improved over 2.5 million acres to the tune of $377 million in funding since 2006. That is a good starting point...

Bessy, I am all for trying something different - especially if it’s supported by scientific data. However, we will never be able to address all 50 problems at the same time. We have to start somewhere. I hope we can finally take “the ride” during the fall of 2024. Hawkeye

Jims- I never said there was no benefit to habitat improvement projects. Rather, I stated that the average sportsman has not seen much of a return on their massive investment in mule deer habitat over the last 40 years. The state of Utah, together with conservation organizations, have...

Lumpy- That is a fair point, but frankly Dr. McMillan is working jointly with the DWR on a number of these studies. Given that relationship, I would hope that the DWR would consider his findings with an open mind. As we both said above, what we are currently doing is not working. Therefore...

I have listened to that podcast twice and found it very interesting. It calls into question many of the current beliefs and practices relating to wildlife management. I think we’d all agree that what we are currently doing with mule deer is not working. Over the last four decades, we have...

WRONG.

Kudos to the State of Arizona. Time to stop pimping our wildlife in the name of conservation. Any chance Utah follows suit? :LOL::ROFLMAO::LOL: Hawkeye

I would be shooting ASAP. I would estimate at 29-30" wide and 185 gross. Hawkeye

That looks great! Hawkeye

Let’s form a committee! It’s time to eliminate the LL tags. They really are no general season deer tags anymore. If it makes people feel better, we could convert all the deer units to limited entry units except for the Box Elder unit and leave that as a general unit. Then all the LL tag holders...

Yes. The was a particular large male lion that primarily lived on elk and moose. Hawkeye

Congrats on the piebald Turkey! Hawkeye

I’m on the same boat! 🤷‍♂️ Hawkeye

Slammy, I’ll pm you once we get past the holidays and we can grab lunch or dinner. And I’m buying. I will share some of the historical perspective with you, and you can tell me about my the current boots on the ground conservation efforts. My guess is we will both learn something. I’ve...

Slammy- Let’s grab lunch some time and I can fill you in on all the details. I lived this issue for nearly five years. I get tired of rehashing it all online but I’d be happy to chat with you in person — without making it personal. PM me at your convenience. Hawkeye

Kody- Congrats on an awesome year! I love all the extras and character on your CO buck. How fun to share a hunt like that with your son. What caliber is that lever action rifle you used for your buffalo hunt? Hawkeye

Awesome. Congrats on a cool bull! Let’s hear some details about the hunt. Hawkeye

I agree with Buckfever34. I’m seeing 205-210. Hawkeye

What if we limited guides and outfitters to private lands and banned them on public lands? Let them ruin hunting on the CWMUs and LOAs but ban guiding on public lands. I don’t see this happening given the way Utah has commercialized hunting, but it would go a long way to solving the problem...

You have raised her right. Great work dad! Hawkeye

Elkass- I am alive and well, but I’ve been swamped with work. I need to find a new career that provides more time for hunting and web browsing. Do you by chance need an apprentice? On a serious note, I will try to make time to show up to the wildlife board meeting to lobby against scopes...

Me too. I just broke out my bow for the first time this year and I have my slider sight dialed to 150 yards. Jason

That looks amazing! Hawkeye

Cody, congrats to you and your wife! That is an awesome bull, and it sounds like you had a great time with your family in the mountains. Thanks for posting! Hawkeye

Great work! No go find some more! Hawkeye

Good for the DWR. Why not try something different in a few units? Nothing Utah has tried so far has improved our herd numbers. Moreover, nothing other western states have tried so far has improved herd numbers. What do we have to lose at this point? Hawkeye

I have heard nothing but positive feedback about J and J. Top notch people. Hawkeye

Zeke- So sorry for your loss. Family is everything. Sending thoughts and prayers. ??? Hawkeye

I despise the thieves! I hope they get what’s coming to them. Hawkeye

Awesome! Thanks for sharing, Hawkeye

Take up archery and go hunt elk. Put in for a good unit. I don’t waste your time trying to draw a premier unit. Hawkeye

Elkster- Just got the record, I have not shot a two point since I took my first buck in 1988. I’m still waiting to hear your plan to restore our deer herds besides “let’s cut tags!” Hawkeye

EFA- Well done. Your post #16 hits the nail on the head. There are numerous factors impacting our deer herds, and the DWR is already trying to address many of those factors. Unfortunately, there is no easy solution to the problem or the UDWR would have already implemented that solution along...

I spent a fair amount of time helping a friend on the Wasatch archery hunt. In the area we were hunting, we saw a normal number of elk, including bulls, cows and calves, but definitely did not see as many big bulls. We saw several groups of cows where the herd bull was a 5 point or a small 6...

Thank you! Hawkeye