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There isn’t a limited entry deer unit in Utah that is truly great anymore. There isn’t a unit worth 10 years to draw let alone 20. Yes there are a handful of 200s killed every year but they had already been tied up. Too many eyes with high dollar glass along with the entourage you have to...

23N and 9 both archery early with 15pts as NR. Boy things have changed since my last tag. Drew 9 archery with 10pts in 06. Odds and points to draw keep getting worse and worse. More than likely have one last time in Arizona before I get too old to pull the bow back. LOL

I know one name you will not see and that is mine. Refuse to support the sellout of our wildlife!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's just cut the tags. Again, cut the tags. Let's just make the whole state just like the Paunsaugunt and Henry?s. Boy they have been such a great success! Then we can get a tag every 20 years and compete with all the guides and outfitters. Yippee! Sign me up. I love sitting at home watching...

I agree with Founders thoughts on this one. Time to impose restrictions on weapons and bring back opportunity. For example, scopes on muzzleloaders is ridiculous. It's suppose to be a hunt, not a shoot.

"Dude, of course I want to win the pack!"

I have an idea. Stop talking and actually do something about it. You all talk about all these ideas, but what good is it. What a waste of time. FYI This thread is not going to grow anything or go anywhere without action. You guys hoping some scouts see your great ideas????? LOL Not one of ya...

Muley, how many screamers are we talking about 20, 30, 50, etc.? In my opinion, the first mistake he made would be not getting enough members and clout before going to battle. You need 1000s not 100s to get enough clout. You are also going to have to get some kind of funds together to run the...

LAST EDITED ON Nov-09-18 AT 10:25AM (MST)[p]Well Elk, how would u start a group? How are you going to round up thousands to have any form of clout? Are you going to say ?hey let's go meet and get coffee and then go down to the rac meeting and giver hell?? FYI a group needs some form of...

LAST EDITED ON Nov-08-18 AT 10:57PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Nov-08-18 AT 10:53?PM (MST) Well the first thing we need is a good name. Maybe something like Hunters Alliance for Utah. Then we probably need to form some kind of LLC with the State. Then we need to elect officers that would represent...

Muley, ur really missing the point. Ur kids, my kids and others are the future of hunting at all period!!! Most kids I know now days would rather play video games and waste their life away in front of a computer screen. Now ur saying there is all this opportunity. Really? Yes opportunity for the...

LAST EDITED ON Nov-08-18 AT 03:55PM (MST)[p]Muley, so what your saying is ur willing to sit on the couch for 5+ years for general tags? We?re already waiting 3 years on some units. Oh, that's right ur a dedicated hunter you don't have to wait, right? The dedicated hunter program needs to go...

LAST EDITED ON Nov-08-18 AT 02:03PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Nov-08-18 AT 02:00?PM (MST) Muley, the only one illiterate here is u. Go back and read your posts. Tag reduction is implied in almost all of them. Good luck with that. You?ll need a lot of it along with some pixy dust so no worries...

Muley, Your preaching sounds all to familiar. Ur ideology is the same that was presented to us 25 years ago and still hasn't worked. Another group like them is not needed so just go join them already. No worries here because ur tag reduction ploy will not fly. The udwr needs revenue to operate...

LAST EDITED ON Nov-08-18 AT 12:30PM (MST)[p]Muley, what's that suppose to mean? Ur comments explain a lot about u too!!! Where do you happen to be from?

30, ?You haven't killed a buck on a general unit since 1996? That tells me either you are a horrible shot (which I doubt) or you haven't had the opportunity. If you are ranting about how good our states hunting is, please explain not notching a tag in 22 consecutive years?? Slam, boy this is...

LAST EDITED ON Nov-07-18 AT 11:53PM (MST)[p]Muley, No answer to the question of where have tag cuts benefited hunters in this state? You don't know me so don't be saying I'd be pounding them til their all gone. FYI I haven't killed a buck on the general in this state since 1996, so put your...

LAST EDITED ON Nov-07-18 AT 11:01PM (MST)[p]+1 Hoss well said. Furthermore, when will you guys be satisfied? When we're all sitting home? I noticed you avoided the questions I posed above about tag cuts benefiting hunters. That's because you can't find anywhere it has. Go ahead push for those...

LAST EDITED ON Nov-07-18 AT 06:49PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Nov-07-18 AT 05:56?PM (MST) Please explain how I have attacked anyone. I'm just stating my personal experiences and opinion. You don't know me and I don't know you. Everyone is entitled to there own opinion. If you read through all the...

Another thing, your group or alliance can't be just 20 guys or gals. You?re going to have to get numbers equal or greater than SFW or you're just pissin in the wind!!!!!! I would be the first to join if you're actually going to represent hunters. Again tag cuts are not the answer!!! I remember...

LAST EDITED ON Nov-06-18 AT 07:08PM (MST)[p]I remember years ago standing in line at Hurst Ben Franklin in St. George to buy a deer tag and there was this guy preaching to us all on his soapbox that he was forming this alliance and was going to bring the deer herd back. Any guesses who that was...

Blah, blah, blah, and more blah. I'm sick of hearing the same crap different post. I say limit the tags some more. It's done wonders on the pauns, Henry?s, and the generals for all these years. They?re a joke!! Cut it down to 1 tag per unit then we can all sit home and the whining would stop as...

Hey, I have a great idea. Let's cut some more tags! Then maybe we can draw once every 40 to 50 years! And a general season every 10!!! Would that make you happy???? Keep pushing and we'll all be sitting home.

Elkassassin yes I'm familiar with the book cliffs some. Haven?t been out there in 18 years though. Back when I was part of the dedicated poacher program because I was fearful of not having a tag. I turned my unused tag back in and actually lucked out and drew that. Spent a lot of time in the...

I agree that ur going to have to be organized in numbers to get anything changed. Need a group that actually represents the hunters of this state but it is going to take a miracle to organize it. Too many talkers and not enough doers. You?re going to need a small group of guys to round up and...

My point is all I ever see on here is whining and more whining about how bad it is and the pisscutters. And the number 1 solution is always cut the tags and not any real solutions. Be careful what you wish for. Currently it takes 15+ years to draw the paunsaugunt and Henry?s for deer and all the...

This is my new campaign slogan! Lol Who is with me! Major changes need to be made. And fellow hunters of Utah need to step up and lead the way! Strength is in numbers and no one can change anything alone! So who is in? Or you can sit back, continue to watch and whine on the forums, as things...

?I need a pack!?

Wow. After all these years it's the same people on here whining about how bad it is. Really? You really want to limit the tags some more so we can stay home? It already takes 20 years to draw. Yes we had 400 bulls a few years ago but who was killing the majority of them? The trophy/guide...

Wow. After all these years it's the same people on here whining about how bad it is. Really? You really want to limit the tags some more so we can stay home? It already takes 20 years to draw. Yes we had 400 bulls a few years ago but who was killing the majority of them? The trophy/guide...

What is really going on here? To keep cutting tag numbers is not the answer. Do you really want to sit home and not hunt year after year? Cutting tags feeds the trophy/guide business regime. Yes, get rid of the dedicated poacher program. Creates to much pressure. Pick ur hunt. The real problem...

I want a ViperSharp! Because everytime I go grab one of my knives it's dull, due to my kids playing with them in the rocks! LOL

Oh I forgot to add that you can't have your trail camera on every water hole while you sit home and look at the pictures!!!!! I could go on and on. Man I have a lot of anger built up. Lol

Haven't been on here in a long time but I say open it all up! Don't need one single draw area! All it's doing is feeding this circus! Normal guy with 20 points finally draws and then has to deal with the guide and helper bonanza! Make it a hunt again! There has to be restrictions on ATV access...

LAST EDITED ON Aug-19-14 AT 09:18PM (MST)[p]Me personally I would not use someone else's blind. Pop up your own if you want to hunt the same waterhole!! As far as the carcass. There is a lot of difference between gutting one and boning one. Yes gutting one the guts would be gone pretty quickly...

LAST EDITED ON Aug-19-14 AT 04:27PM (MST)[p]He wasn't alone. He had friends with him. Also had ATV's. Plenty of help to take the deer somewhere else. I've been alone and could drag a deer a long ways to clean it in a better spot. This guy has some nerve and there probably will be a fight if he...

LAST EDITED ON Aug-19-14 AT 04:05PM (MST) by Founder (admin)[p]Haven't been on here in a long time but I thought this needed to be posted. Last year, my brother and his 14 year old son were set up to archery hunt a water hole. While they were gone another hunter went in there , used their blind...

LAST EDITED ON Oct-30-12 AT 02:50PM (MST)[p]pookiebar, really? I have nothing better to do than come on here and tell fibs about contacting the fish and game and reporting violations. I did call the poaching line on the one and did in fact talk directly with the game warden over the unit on the...

LAST EDITED ON Oct-29-12 AT 09:03PM (MST)[p]apollosmith said, "THE ONLY WAY THAT A UTAH TAG IS REUSABLE IS IF YOU USE IT ON MULTIPLE ANIMALS ON THE SAME DAY" ding ding ding we have a winner! How many deer do you think you can haul off the mountain in one day? I could haul off quite a few Utah...

I make a post about a problem and a solution and then get the blame. That figures. Nothing has changed on here. Let me tell you about reporting. A few years ago I reported a bull elk being taken off of the Pahvant unit on someone else's tag. The guy that shot the elk had been hunting with...