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If the rancher will allow it, as soon as you can, after the cows are moved I would really get some salt licks, etc within new mexico laws, established to try to attract elk onto the property. If you have cow elk you will have bulls.

my buddy drew non res 12 a east early last year with 1 point.

The deep creeks are going to be a little rougher and tougher on your vehicles and your body than some of your prior elk hunts. Tough unforgiving country for sure. Coming from Iowa. Get local advise or a guide, its not really one of those units that s easy to show up and have elk running...

I have hunted 2b several times. Here is the problem with 2b. It doesn't necessarily require a lot of snow. The deer migrate even without the snow. The problem is is that for years there have been too many tags given for the herd. Not just in New Mexico, but the deer are hunted in colorado...

I suppose if you broke the contract they would not be obligate to guide you. I would definitely call them prior to the draw to update them and make sure the dates will work

Most will tell you 13b for absolute best shot at a giant. 13a and 12aw late are pretty solid hunts. There are true giants in all three units. I don't think you could go wrong with any of those choices. Where I think the difference is, is that with your lack of knowledge on 13b and 13a you...

would let him walk

Arizona no Utah no unless general. Idaho yes colorado yes nevada no new mexico yes

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Be in really good shape and don't expect giants and you'll get it done

The question is is how old are you and why do you want to burn 14 years of points so quick? Be patient and use your points wisely, you will never be in this position again. what's the rush. and yes 27 late would be a pretty good hunt.

Agreed Good Bulls. Should be a great Hunt. There can be some Great Bulls but not a lot. Scout hard for the great ones. Hunt hard.

The only tags I have seen drawn this year for unit 1 are resident and it is all over the board as would be expected. Interested to see what happens with non-residents. I do agree that too many tags have been given out. Quality of the hunt on unit 1 has gone way down. I suspect the magazines...

Horn reapers look up old posts. They are the guys. if You can get them, probably all booked by now.

The real problem is not the system it is the lack of high demand game. i.e. quality elk and deer tags. Back in the 60 s and 70s this just wasn't an issue because of the sheer number of deer. Since then several things have happened to affect the deer numbers and put the supply demand out of...

If you drew it, you put in for it. You may have inadvertently put in for it, but they don't make mistakes on the draw typically. Just request a copy of your application though if you truly think they made a mistake. But yes that would be a tough hunt.

I decided to go to mexico. Headed down at the end of the month. Lots of goulds, same ranch where I coues deer hunt. Should be a great hunt.

If someone has 5 plus bulls filmed in 27 that are over 380 they are likely pulling your leg. They probably filmed them in unit 1 in the summer when they come off of the reservation. That would be a pretty tall order in 27. I do think the fish and game will be pretty sure to get the 10% to...

Ill second horn reaper outfitters. Won't get a better experience. Good luck.

I will give you one more opinion. I've hunted archery in C several times. It is a very difficult hunt, potentially not getting a shot opportunity an entire hunt. The harvest success reflects my opinion, not just making it up. I wouldn't hunt there again. Never hunted e.

I agree with what is being said. Something else to remember if you decide to do it on your own. If you scout all summer and find the bulls, come your hunt most of them will probably move to their rutting areas. So if you can get past information about where the elk rut and then scout and...

They are real pretty birds. nice to see them on the comeback

19 points. wow

He's talking about someone posting on your post that has been stealing cameras from another outfitter and got busted for it. PM him if you want to know more, I'm sure they will share. Be careful of your guide. A lot of good guides in arizona 2 of the best were mentioned. A3 and chappelle...

its always after the expo and with all the glitches so far this year will probably be later than usual.

Don in your opinion do you think the fish and game was blind sided by this? Seems like the Boquillas has them in a corner due to the fact that most of 10 is the ranch and they know it. Not much option here if the owners of the ranch are going to act this way. Who is the owners of the ranch...

san carlos res has quite a few bears.

anyone have any idea about how many points it is taking to draw a golds tag?

If you have narrowed it down to diamond and wards, then I don't have much more to add. Just how the heck will all the awesome guides did you narrow it down to those two and rule out the ones that kill the biggest bulls in az?

Here's what you should do put in for a late archery any unit, then you will out of the points game for sure or if you love unit 9 so much do the late rifle hunt in unit 9, then you can chase all those unit 9 bulls with your rifle. Never know, maybe lightning will strike and you'll get one. The...

What do you want her to hunt? Not sure I see it in the post. There are youth hunts for Elk, Deer, javelina, and Turkey. Elk and Deer are cow and doe hunts for youth.

should be starting. Weather will determine the activity level.

Dude if you hiked 15 miles last weekend in 16c and you didn't hear a bugle you were in the wrong unit or you haven't ever heard a bugle.

Your question is not really when to give up. It is am I being efficient by continuing to hunt the same area. Tough question, with so many people in the area chasing the buck around, including an outfitter at this point the question is what are the chances he is still in the area. You would...

Gotcha, one day we had dropped off a mesa and ended up along ways from where we had parked, we ended up walking by the road your dad was camped on. we had walked about 4 or 5 miles of road and he was the only guy that stopped and offered us a ride. Pretty nice guy. No doubt it was a tough...

One last thing. If they would push the hunt back two weeks it would be phenomenal for the kids with 2 points running around everywhere. The hunt dates are too early, I can't figure out why they throw kids in on this hunt when the deer just aren't there yet. Just new mexico I guess. T

I'm actually going to chime in real quick. On the youth hunt you will not see a lot of little bucks. The deer have not migrated in yet. It is a tough hunt. We hunted it 3 years a go. We did not see a buck in 3 days. I've hunted it on my own twice on general hunts so I know the areas pretty...

With the help of Jed larson, Kendal Adair, Scott Clouse after hunting 13 days straight, averaging over 15 miles of hiking a day, I will say it was no cake walk. My biggest day, Jed and I hiked 22 miles. I passed a lot of good bulls and struggled to find exactly what I was looking for, but I...

So how did your dad do?

high 160's