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Ah, I missed that. No I would not suggest opening rifle elk earlier. It certainly could impact bull quality, but to be fair there are other places that have earlier openers than September 26, (Thorofare, Frank Church) where one could argue bull quality is not affected. But access is surely a...

Are you suggesting hunters and outfitters don’t support the September 26th general elk opener for rifle in much of that country? It’s definitely the rut, bulls are getting blasted with rifles, and in my opinion the general elk quality is far from total crap.

Any suggestions on volunteer opportunities, conservation groups, shooting ranges/clubs to get involved with in Star Valley area? Any other local hunting/fishing forums you could DM me about? Thanks in advance.

This is another of the long list of reasons I chose to leave as well. I'm guessing there are lots of folks like myself and tmbr_huntr who threw in the towel. Wyoming here I come!

My wife and I chose Wyoming, should be there by September. It is concerning to hear that waiting this long makes me a loser. I am only semi-retiring from my forestry business in Oregon so maybe I'm only sort of a loser?

tmbr_hntr We are in the same boat as you. We’re moving to Thayne once our house is finished late summer. My wife and I are burning all of our points as well, planning to just hunt G, Gen elk, and central WY antelope. Look me up sometime.

We too have enjoyed our new neighbors and everyone we’ve met. Our little acreage also has the full array of local game. After 30 years of managing private timberland, I’m looking forward to doing some habitat improvements on my own property for once.

Lots of lively debate here lately. Any members making the move to Wyoming soon? My wife and I are finally breaking ground this summer on property we bought in 2021, and hope to be residents of Thayne in 2024. That will end 54 years in Oregon for us. Anyone else care to share when and where?

I can't think of a better hunt in Oregon for an 82 year old. Lots of elk on the relatively flat timber company ground that is open to the public.

Brian, Nothing personal, but as you stated some will not share your opinion of what you are doing. I am one of those, and don't want to be associated with it in anyway. I won't be visiting here anymore, so please go ahead and delete me as a member. I have really enjoyed your site over the...

Since Brian is choosing to turn his scouting into a commercial activity on Forest Service lands I would want to know that he has the proper FS permit/license before engaging his services. Guides/outfitters have to be permitted, I can't imagine this wouldn't need to be as well. B

Well, I am also an OSU guy (93). I have been there twice, if you want to send a pm I'll share a few things. B

LAST EDITED ON Aug-21-15 AT 04:09PM (MST)[p]My son and daughter had a fun time the first weekend in August. Each got their first antelope thanks to some wonderful ranchers allowing access. Their lobbying me for mule deer next year. B

I was a member for awhile since they have great stuff. Until the day I went to my local store here in Oregon and there was a guy at the front door soliciting signatures for the ballot measure to ban baiting for bears and hunting with hounds (it passed). I walked into the store, did not get a...

I would recommend the 308. I added a limbsaver to my 12 year olds Abolt and she handles it just fine with 180 grain bullets.

As a NR who enjoys western WY hunting I read as much as I can on the various forums about G&H. These posts about G&H complaining, hyping, or whatever, are as regular as clockwork. However, I do not recall ever seeing someone post up the proposal they have prepared to the Commission. If...

Depends on the trip. I am a bit of a Browning A bolt fan. 338 RUM with 225 Accubonds for my Wyoming deer/elk hunts. 300 RUM with 200 accubonds for Idaho whitetail this year. 300 WSM with 200 accubonds for muley only hunts. 243 with 90 gr. accubonds for blacktails around home. All A Bolts. B

Does anyone know any NR's who are complaining about point averaging in WY? My circle of folks who hunt there is fairly small, but I've never heard a complaint.

I don't have a problem with the research. What bothers me is not doing anything with the data/reasearch results. We pay for herd composition assessments every year, yet do we see changes in tag numbers to the level needed to meet M.O.'s, no. I begged the Commission to reduce buck harvest in...

Wow. So they refuse to increase harvest on a very healthy predator population of bears in SW OR and make a few extra bucks. Yet they ignore the pleas of hunters to reduce harvest on buck/bull populations that are drastically below MO. Just when I think they could not disappoint me more, they...

What an atrocious comment. Curious to see what Founder thinks of that type of trash on his site.

RE: Try to explain this to your 10 or 11 year old that you had told couldnt enter the draw It will be interesting to watch this unfold. I wonder if the Director is nervous about his job.

I am well aware of the ramifications TG. I would never post specific details about spots I know of, even if I don't hunt them. Because I know somebody out there does care, and I don't want to screw over a fellow hunter. Not everybody feels that way, I get it.

Any chance you guys could use PM's? As someone who spent considerable time, money and effort to figure out a spot it is dissapointing to see the spot you found through those efforts posted for the whole world to see. B

Jason, It's been some time since I was in there since we gave up on the FC elk hunt, but I've seen goats in Monumental Creek. No pack in required to boot. Good luck. B

As a follow up to my letter to the Commission thought I would share what ODFW is proposing at this point for 2016 and on. This was presented at the ODFW Budget meeting in Clackamas last night. On the hunting side of things here are some of the noteworthy items. 1. Youth...

Well for better or worse, here's the final draft I am going with and submitting to the commission. Pretty sure the Blazers odds of beating the Spurs 4 in a row are better than the odds of anything in this proposal making it past the Commissions garbage can. For a variety of reasons already...

Thanks WB, I did not know that about the NR draw process, I will change it. And I completely agree my proposal has nothing to do with herd size. I also think changing the mindset at ODFW is hopeless, my hope is that improving buck/bull ratios might cause some improvements in herd productivity...

Allright 440, Here's a draft of what I'm working on. Any suggestions? May 15, 2014 Oregon Fish and Wildlife Commission c/o ODFW Wildlife Division 4034 Fairview Industrial Drive SE Salem, OR 97302 Members of the Commission, Thank you for the opportunity to submit comments in regards to...

I know it probably won't do a bit of good, but it's that time of year where we get our chance to comment on tag numbers. I sent this off to ODFW and the Commission, and plan on attending the Clackamas meeting tonight. I am only one voice, but if you agree, or disagree for that matter, you...

TG, I guess I like to know I am going for sure in order to plan my fall schedule. The point system allows me to do that. A random draw would mean "maybe" I am going which makes it a whole lot tougher to plan a schedule. To each their own.

Well TG there are a few of us NR's out there not in our right mind. Myself and our group like the current PP system. It currently ensures we get to hunt our chosen area frequently since it only requires 0-1 points generally, depending on species. In fact I know quite a few folks that like the...

So I am a NR from Oregon who considers Wyoming my primary hunting spot. I can understand the frustration of WY residents so I only offer this up as food for thought. I urge you to be very careful and think through thoroughly any changes to your pricing structures, % splits, etc. As an...

Thanks for the nice comments all, my daughter is still smiling months later and excited for next year. A-bolt is a 308 micro hunter. I love my annual Wyoming hunt, but my daughters bull and my sons first blacktail buck this fall were the real highlights of my year.

My 12 year old sees me lurking here all the time and asked me to post this. She got her first elk on the Oregon Coast this November. Proud little girl and papa.

Thanks Kilo I really appreciate it.

I am planning a 2014 antelope hunt in the Pinedale area and was hoping to get an opinion. Would anyone with local knowledge care to give an opinion on how developed the BLM ground in 88 is compared to units 89 & 90 to the south? On Google earth it appears there is a lot of gas development to...

Here's my experience with REI, take it for what it's worth. I used to be a member, because I too think they have great gear for backcountry type hunting. One trip there while walking out of the store I was greeted by an individual collecting signatures for a ballot measure to ban bear baiting...

Personally I like the system that OR and WY have. But my application strategy is probably different from most on MM. I have some spots in WY, CO, and my home state of OR that I like. All of these can be drawn with just a few points, so I can assure myself that I am going on what I consider a...

I think it will be interesting to see how this goes. My guess is they will no longer be concerned about hunting becoming a "rich mans" sport now that they do not have any constituents to answer to. Classic politics.