I agree, I guess I should have had more clarity on the original post. This would be for third season, deer of course. Since that is likely the season that will see the most for point creep.Depending on the unit
I think with the later dates this year 3rd seasons will spike and 2nd will drop a little but who knows
I think they willWhat do you guys think will happen with the units that were 100% draw at zero points last year 2nd and 3rd? Think guys will spend 2-3 points on those now?
It will be interesting to compare that 2020 preference point only chart to the 2019 one. I will do that when I get a chance.
It will be interesting to compare that 2020 preference point only chart to the 2019 one. I will do that when I get a chance.
I agree with you.I have 11 points, burning them this year. I can't continue to play the game anymore since all of the variables discussed with later dates, and quality seems to be declining across the state with the exception of the plains.
What baffles me is, harvest rates seem to be steady yet the quality is going down. For example, I'm going to be hunting the NW part of the state this year and looked at the harvest numbers(2008 through 2019) for units 22, 21, and 10. Most years are within 10% of the 11-year average with very few extremes. Inn fact, before the severe winter of 07, harvest rates (2003 through 2007) were 50% more for bucks; yet these units were considered "trophy" units during that time frame. Harvest drops and now they are no longer "go to" units for trophy quality. hmmmm. Something is going on and it's more complex than tag numbers or buck harvest.
Sorry for the rant. Either way, I'm all in this year. Hopefully, It's a good year since we had a mild winter.
I didn't compare previous years I just knew there are a lot of guys out there with a lot of points.
That sounds to me like total deer numbers dropping, while harvest objectives stay the same. Fewer and fewer mature bucks to choose from.I have 11 points, burning them this year. I can't continue to play the game anymore since all of the variables discussed with later dates, and quality seems to be declining across the state with the exception of the plains.
What baffles me is, harvest rates seem to be steady yet the quality is going down. For example, I'm going to be hunting the NW part of the state this year and looked at the harvest numbers(2008 through 2019) for units 22, 21, and 10. Most years are within 10% of the 11-year average with very few extremes. Inn fact, before the severe winter of 07, harvest rates (2003 through 2007) were 50% more for bucks; yet these units were considered "trophy" units during that time frame. Harvest drops and now they are no longer "go to" units for trophy quality. hmmmm. Something is going on and it's more complex than tag numbers or buck harvest.
Sorry for the rant. Either way, I'm all in this year. Hopefully, It's a good year since we had a mild winter.
I was wanting to burn my pts and normal numbers I could draw a good 4th season but not sure if I will be able so thinking of dropping to 3rd season which might also jump big time. Tough to decide which one to choose???
I'm with you. Our group is burning them this year (if we get drawn). Good luck in the drawing.I have 11 points, burning them this year. I can't continue to play the game anymore since all of the variables discussed with later dates, and quality seems to be declining across the state with the exception of the plains.
What baffles me is, harvest rates seem to be steady yet the quality is going down. For example, I'm going to be hunting the NW part of the state this year and looked at the harvest numbers(2008 through 2019) for units 22, 21, and 10. Most years are within 10% of the 11-year average with very few extremes. Inn fact, before the severe winter of 07, harvest rates (2003 through 2007) were 50% more for bucks; yet these units were considered "trophy" units during that time frame. Harvest drops and now they are no longer "go to" units for trophy quality. hmmmm. Something is going on and it's more complex than tag numbers or buck harvest.
Sorry for the rant. Either way, I'm all in this year. Hopefully, It's a good year since we had a mild winter.
you too! it's time to hunt.I'm with you. Our group is burning them this year (if we get drawn). Good luck in the drawing.
I don't think I'd do a 2nd season hunt as it's 12-15 pts less than what I have.Have you considered 2nd season also? If weather lines up for 2nd and 3rd there might not be many 140 bucks left for 4th season
I don't think I'd do a 2nd season hunt as it's 12-15 pts less than what I have.
There's several reasons I'd not consider 2nd season for the unit I'm looking at as that tag could be drawn with 50/50 odds at 3 points and I have 20 pts. Waaaaay more tags issued in 2nd season as compared to 3rd or 4th. Also 2nd season has lots of doe tags as well as lots of elk hunters to deal with so it'd be and extremely crowded hunt relative to a 3rd season and 4th season would have no doe hunters and practically speaking very few elk hunters as the elk are not in the areas where deer are generally at that time. At least that's been my observations. So no way would I wait for 20 years to draw a tag that could be had with 3 or 4 pts. Not sure if any areas are really worth the number of pts it takes to draw them now since the deer numbers and quality have been significantly reduced over the last 4 or 5 years and seem to be is significant decline. This is all based on my reviewing a lot of posts by many people across the state so unfortunately I'm not really expecting a great hunt should I draw but at my age, I'm not gonna wait another 10-15 years and hope the deer numbers have a dramatic comeback.And that’s the problem many people think that they are over pointed and can’t do a hunt that requires less points when it very well could be the type of hunt they are expecting. You’ll see in this thread and many others that everyone is saying there isn’t a unit in the state worth 10+ points or even 5 at that matter. To each their own but I personally think 2nd season could be the most overlooked season with everyone looking at 3rd and 4th. The 9 day season at the first part of November is hard to look away from.
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