I went up on thur the 18 i saw 9 does and 5 cow elk and a 4 point bull. that was the biggest bull i have seen on the wasatch front, I don't have an archery elk tag or I could have shot this bull. I always carry my cow call with me so i played around for about 20 min with these elk and he came into within 30 yards and then some sheep herders started whistling for their dogs (I think,) and they started trottin off i cow called and they would stop but just kept on the move that was fun. soon to find bucks I hope!