DH hours price double

elkhuntn247 · Mar 28, 2023

FYI for the guys who purchase Dedicated hours.

CFMuley · Mar 28, 2023

Is it possible to purchase hours before the increase?

elkhuntn247 · Mar 28, 2023

CFMuley said:
Is it possible to purchase hours before the increase?

I worked a project a few weeks back and still needed 7.5 hours to finish out my year. I was able to purchase those for 20.00hr just now. So I think there is still some time.

CFMuley · Mar 28, 2023

elkhuntn247 said:
I worked a project a few weeks back and still needed 7.5 hours to finish out my year. I was able to purchase those for 20.00hr just now. So I think there is still some time.

Just payed for 16 hours at $20 an hour.

elkassassin · Mar 28, 2023

I Already Posted a Picture/Link With The Chainsaws Hossy Will Be Buying This Year!

D_Hoyt · Mar 28, 2023

I don't want to buy them, but I've reached out to the contact person on four different projects in the past month and only one responded. ?

elkhuntn247 · Mar 28, 2023

dillonhoyt said:
I don't want to buy them, but I've reached out to the contact person on four different projects in the past month and only one responded. ?

Yeah getting lined out on projects can be a pain.

Eagle_Eyes · Mar 28, 2023

dillonhoyt said:
I don't want to buy them, but I've reached out to the contact person on four different projects in the past month and only one responded. ?

Which projects have you inquired about?

tjsum · Mar 29, 2023

I think they are going to see a huge drop off of non-residents who participate in the dedicated hunter program since most of the non-residents purchase hours. Me being one of them.

mickeyelk · Mar 29, 2023

Years back I Participated. Biggest problem I had was getting hours. This was such a disorganized project. I would volunteer for anything. What a pain. Had to pay the fee once and got out of the program. Never again.

curlycoyote · Mar 29, 2023

Does anyone know if they gave a reason for doing this and if so what was it? Can the WB reverse this? If they can I hope they do. Finding projects to do is basically impossible.

mtnrunner260 · Mar 29, 2023

I don't get what all the complaining is about.
There are 38 projects on the website currently and there are opportunities to donate, clean up or help with fishing within a 5 hour drive* of anywhere in the state.

*Drive time not included.

StraightSix · Mar 29, 2023

What irks me when it comes to the donated items is that for a good majority of the donations you have to provide a receipt for the items purchased and only get credit at the rate of 1 hour per $20 spent (soon to be $40). It seems like the donations should come at a bit of a discount, say $15 per hour. Why would anyone in their right mind spend the extra time to go out and purchase materials, and then deliver said materials only to get credit at $20 per hour? You'd save time, gas money, and the hassle of paperwork if you just hopped online and purchase the hours at the same rate of $20 per hour.

Makes no sense to me.

ELKOHOLIC · Mar 29, 2023

mtnrunner260 said:
I don't get what all the complaining is about.
There are 38 projects on the website currently and there are opportunities to donate, clean up or help with fishing within a 5 hour drive* of anywhere in the state.

*Drive time not included.

You just described everyone’s issue with the program. 5 hour drive. How generous of them? Some regions make it dang near impossible to find something to do. Of course that is why I have paid for mine for many years. I doubt it is any better though.

middlefork · Mar 29, 2023

I hope some of you guys realize that those who bought hours were the bullseye the WB was shooting at when they debated price increases across the board and DH in particular.

$40.00 per hour X 2040 hours equals $81,600 a year after taxes. So their philosophy is we can demand more from these slackers.

I believe you can do your hours this year before the rate changes if already enrolled. Those who may enroll this year are not quite so lucky.

I'm up for renewal this year. Who knows if any tags will be available?

Bigwiffy · Mar 29, 2023

You think maybe they don't really want to deal with you and these extemely impactful "projects" that have done an incredible amount of good for our herds? I mean delivering pamphlets to stores is an incredible way to improve our deer herds!........Or maybe they don't want to deal with you and just want your money?

mmmmmm

elkassassin · Mar 29, 2023

You Caught On With That Last Sentence Wiff!

Bigwiffy said:
You think maybe they don't really want to deal with you and these extemely impactful "projects" that have done an incredible amount of good for our herds? I mean delivering pamphlets to stores is an incredible way to improve our deer herds!........Or maybe they don't want to deal with you and just want your money? mmmmmm

elkantlers · Mar 29, 2023

When they start paying our conservation officers $40 per hour then I will be on board with this raise. Until then they are just screwing the Drats dumb enough to pay this fee.

JakeH · Mar 29, 2023

elkantlers said:
When they start paying our conservation officers $40 per hour then I will be on board with this raise. Until then they are just screwing the Drats dumb enough to pay this fee.

Beat me too it, how do they expect us to pay $40 when they don't pay the employees that.

slamdunk · Mar 29, 2023

dillonhoyt said:
I don't want to buy them, but I've reached out to the contact person on four different projects in the past month and only one responded. ?

That's the whole idea behind the cost increase.
They don't want your money, they want your physical time.

Don't know where you are located but Utah County MDF is always looking for DH volunteers.

PM me, maybe I can help you.

slamdunk · Mar 29, 2023

elkantlers said:
When they start paying our conservation officers $40 per hour then I will be on board with this raise. Until then they are just screwing the Drats dumb enough to pay this fee.

That's the idea......they don't want your money...

Deerlove · Mar 29, 2023

Bigwiffy said:
You think maybe they don't really want to deal with you and these extemely impactful "projects" that have done an incredible amount of good for our herds? I mean delivering pamphlets to stores is an incredible way to improve our deer herds!........Or maybe they don't want to deal with you and just want your money? mmmmmm

Or lick stamps

elkantlers · Mar 29, 2023

slamdunk said:
That's the idea......they don't want your money...

Then they better get a new project coordinator because the hoops a person has to jump through to get a few hours here and a few hours there just aren't worth it.

MrShane · Mar 29, 2023

FWIW,
By the time employee benefits are factored in for even the lowest paid CO it is easily equivalent to $40/hr.

Wiszard · Mar 29, 2023

JakeH said:
Beat me too it, how do they expect us to pay $40 when they don't pay the employees that.

Because you guys are biggers suckers than the employees? That's the governments outlook obviously. Pretty sad....

slamdunk · Mar 30, 2023

JakeH said:
Beat me too it, how do they expect us to pay $40 when they don't pay the employees that.

If you're attending the Vernal MDF Banquet and need hours, you can get some helping that event.

Elkslayer2015 · Mar 30, 2023

Currently there is 38 projects right now. Every year this comes up and every time someone complains about there isn't anything.

I propose that we do away with the option to buy out your hours. So if there is no projects on the board at all and I mean none the DWR has to waive your hours needed for that year.

But every time this comes up I always get on I find something some where's.
It's called Dedicated for a reason. It doesn't matter if the projects are during a work week and it doesn't matter it's 3 to 5 hours away that's what you signed up for.
I ran a skid steer out to the book cliffs 3 hours away for a guzzler project.
There was 2 people in that group from ST George. (Slam you might remember that) They drove over 7 hours to help with that project.

JakeH · Mar 30, 2023

slamdunk said:
If you're attending the Vernal MDF Banquet and need hours, you can get some helping that event.

I'm working that day, but will be showing up to the banquet just late. I would have signed up had I not been working.

rmanwill · Mar 30, 2023

Been in the program 4 different times and never paid for my hours. I'm not the smartest guy and never really looked into the cost.

However, at the old $20 an hour that is only $720 for the full 3 years / 36 hours. That's only $240 a year and get tags for three years. I pay more then that for an out of state tag when I can draw. $240 a year was a deal!!!

hogg_65 · Mar 30, 2023

The DWR should charge more.

slamdunk · Mar 30, 2023

hogg_65 said:
The DWR should charge more.

Weed out the one's wanting the buy their way through the intended program.

So many think the DWR is all about money?
Nope.....

hogg_65 · Mar 30, 2023

slamdunk said:
Weed out the one's wanting the buy their way through the intended program.

So many think the DWR is all about money?
Nope.....

100% Agree. All hours should be worked. No hours should be bought. No matter the reason.

Vanilla · Mar 31, 2023

When I saw they were doubling the price of buying hours, my only concern was why are they not quadrupling it?

Everyone that got into DH knew what they were signing up for. And they still do. If you don’t like the terms, get out of the program. Pretty simple.

hogg_65 · Mar 31, 2023

Vanilla said:
When I saw they were doubling the price of buying hours, my only concern was why are they not quadrupling it?

Everyone that got into DH knew what they were signing up for. And they still do. If you don’t like the terms, get out of the program. Pretty simple.

Absolutely correct. Makes perfect sense.

Robiland · Mar 31, 2023

As I look at the projects listed right now, and I know more will come, but in the central region, 75% of the projects are for fishing. And dont get me wrong, all are a good cause. But Id like to see more projects geared towards mule deer.

littlebighorn · Mar 31, 2023

Like every other business, labor shortages make it almost impossible to do what needs to be done, and nobody wants to work for the cheap azzz wages the DWR is forced to pay by the legislature.

elkassassin · Mar 31, 2023

Just Like Everything-else in this World!

Double The Price!

And Make The Packages Smaller!

So It's More Like a Triple or Quadruple in Price!

Oneye · Apr 1, 2023

I did this course too, so do all 32 hours cost the $40 an hour now? That’s how it reads, but it was proposed as $25 for the first 16 hours and $40 an hour for the second 16.

middlefork · Apr 1, 2023

LOL yes $40.00 across the board.

KISS

Oneye · Apr 1, 2023

middlefork said:
LOL yes $40.00 across the board.

KISS

So the legislature must have changed this? Because when the wildlife board passed it, it was $25 an hour for the first half. $1,280 damn.

Dedicated hunters will be able to pay $25 per hour for their first 16 hours, then $40 per hour for the remaining 16 hours.

Utah Wildlife Board approves increases in hunting, fishing license and permit fees due to rising costs; Utah Legislature to vote on them next

The Utah Wildlife Board approved a fee increase for hunting and fishing licenses and permits — for both residents and non-residents — in an effort to keep up with increased rising costs of operation, and also approved a few additional items during the public meeting on Thursday, Aug. 25.

wildlife.utah.gov

middlefork · Apr 1, 2023

HB0469

le.utah.gov

Line 589

Vanilla · Apr 1, 2023

Remember the bill you were certain the Governor was going to veto, 1-eye?

Same bill. Maybe you should have read it when you were having such strong opinions about it!

Also, any change in fees by a state agency has to be approved by the legislature. That’s how state budgets and coffers work.

horsehunter · Apr 5, 2023

Is the price increase for everyone? Or just for guys that are wanting to enroll starting now? I would think that guys currently enrolled would be contracted in at the $20 rate.

slamdunk · Apr 5, 2023

Robiland said:
As I look at the projects listed right now, and I know more will come, but in the central region, 75% of the projects are for fishing. And dont get me wrong, all are a good cause. But Id like to see more projects geared towards mule deer.

Look at the WSI platform, it lists future projects in the books.