Guess Score on Buck and Bull

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I thought we could try this again. See if U guys can guess gross score and the width on this guy.This deer was shot in New Mex in 98 or 99 cant remeber. My dad acually passed on this deer 2 times and one time i was with him. I had allready filled so my ole man let him walk. Big big mistake. My dad did not think he was wide enough. One of the guys on the ranch hunting shot him.
This is a bull I shot in WY in 2001. Shot him the last day of
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the season. I drew a good tag and for once did it some justice. The funny thing was i was looking for a cow on the last eve for meat and ran into this guy. Guess the gross score on my bull.Remember this is just for fun.
 
That bull looks a mile wide. I think the pic makes him look bigger than he is. Good photo. I say 340-345 and 186 and 28" on the buck. Congrats to the hunter. Bigger than anything I've ever taken.
 
196" on the buck, and 352" on the bull...?

Michael
"What I could do, I was doing, and that was simply putting my butt on the line for my country, the country that I loved, so that all the protestors and the academics and the liberal intelligentsia back home could enjoy the right to protest against people like me, the hated middleclass." --Gary R. Smith, US Special Forces
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-30-07 AT 07:41AM (MST)[p]Buck 197 Thats an ugly rack on that deer. I would shoot him but he has far from classic muley horns. I bet he has great main beam length though.

Bull 360
 
Buck - 187 6/8 22 inches wide
Bull - 358 - though very hard to tell from that photo - purely a guess. He's a keeper in my book!

UTROY
Proverbs 21:19 (why I hunt!)
 
One head has a offical score and one was just scored by me and a freind. I thought these pics would be fun because i knew some would way over guess and some would way under guess the score. one person score on the elk is right about on, the deer is wide open still.
 
I think some might need some help on the score. The deer is alot widder than most think. He looks kinda narrow but the buck is 29 1/2 wide.This buck had 28 inch ears the biggest i have ever seen. The reason he does not look it is because he is 23 1/4 inches stight up. This is the tallest buck I have ever put a tape on. That is the reason my dad passed this deer because we thought he was 24 to 25 wide. I know most are going to say bs but he is in a well known record book. The bull is 49 inches wide so that might help.
 
203" gross score on the buck...?

Michael
"What I could do, I was doing, and that was simply putting my butt on the line for my country, the country that I loved, so that all the protestors and the academics and the liberal intelligentsia back home could enjoy the right to protest against people like me, the hated middleclass." --Gary R. Smith, US Special Forces
 
I looked back through the guess scores and saw somebody was dang close to the deer.Keep the scores going and I will post on Wed the scores. Its just for fun. I will post the winners.
 
I was gonna say 194 on the buck, but I will say 200 given the "help" you provided. I thought is was tall, and you confirmed that.

As for the elk, not my area, but I will throw out 373. Prolly giving it too much credit, but it sure looks nice and symetrical to me.
 
I'll say 197 gross on the buck, 348 on the bull due, but I'm not buying 28" ears on the muley. impossible

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LAST EDITED ON Jan-30-07 AT 04:18PM (MST)[p]Keep the scores coming guys. To oldmanofthehills it did have those big of ears. The year before my dad shot a big 31 inch buck off the same ranch with 27 inch ears, that deer was aged at 11 yeras old!. That is holding stight out so U could take off a solid inch because they dont hold them that way when on the hoof. I have never seen deer like those deer down there. In all the other places i have hunted I have never seen over 24 inch ears. I think it has alot to do with the area they come from. I shot a 29and 3/4 inch deer in NV this year and it only had 18 inch ears, it looked a mile wide.LOL Just because U have never seen one does not mean that it is not possible.
 
I would like to see how people end up with there score-guess. Do they just look at it and say looks like it's that big or do they disect every point and add it up? There is a ton of difference between 374 and 340. I always guess a little on the safe side but this is how I came up with 340. Not saying I'm right, just would like to see what other peoples opinions are on the point length.

ELK
G1-17
G2-13
G3-12
G4-16.5
G5-11
beam-49
mass-26.5
total-145x2=290+49=339
width-49
 
LAST EDITED ON Jan-30-07 AT 05:12PM (MST)[p]I knew the elk pic would have a huge range. Your points are really not far off. The g4 is a little off though.Some might acually be to high and some are to far down. For a guide the gun is 30-378 with a 26 or 28 inch barrel cant remember but it also has a 3 inch muzzle break on it too. So If I put it in the middle it would have a 30 inch barrel. Hope this helps. I like how U break it down, even makes it more fun.
 
My guess when I just looked at them and guessed was 192 28" wide, and 370 on the bull.

After going through and disecting both animsls I came out with 194 on the deer, and 358 on the elk, with a 50 inch inside spread. (could be to much but he dose look super wide)



Jake H. MM Member since 1999.
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I hope U guys had fun with this one.The deer gross score is 199 and change and the elk gross score is 354 and change.I never scored the deer myself but it was scored by a B&C scorer and the deer made the awards book with a net of 189 or 188 cant remember. The deer was a huge buck. The tallest i have ever put a tape on,he was 23 1/4 tall and over 29 wide.

The elk pic I knew would be fun because most over guess him.It just shows U pics some times dont really show off heads that well.The pic is one of the best pics I have ever taken.This is still my best bull to date and i am very proud of him.

The winners are;
DEER; Camulecrazy and AfganyHunter(both 199)

Elk: UTmonsterslayer(355)

Over all Winner: Camulecrazy(very good guess scores.nailed the deer dead on and only 2 inches off on the elk.(199 and 352)awsome.
 
Well on my first guesses I was at 196 and 352.. Only 3" and 2" off!

Michael
"What I could do, I was doing, and that was simply putting my butt on the line for my country, the country that I loved, so that all the protestors and the academics and the liberal intelligentsia back home could enjoy the right to protest against people like me, the hated middleclass." --Gary R. Smith, US Special Forces
 
Hey now! My first guesses were 196" and 352"! lol

Michael
"What I could do, I was doing, and that was simply putting my butt on the line for my country, the country that I loved, so that all the protestors and the academics and the liberal intelligentsia back home could enjoy the right to protest against people like me, the hated middleclass." --Gary R. Smith, US Special Forces
 
>I would like to see how
>people end up with there
>score-guess. Do they just
>look at it and say
>looks like it's that big
>or do they disect every
>point and add it up?

I hear ya PF. Here is how I got my score. I can always use the excuse of well if there were more pictures :p

G1-17
G2-15
G3-14
G4-21
G5-13
beam-52
mass-28
total-160x2=320+49=369
width-49

Hard with a single photo, but a lot more than you have in the field and have to make a quick decision on whether to shoot or not.

Rackem

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Aaron, how wide was the elks inside spread. Would like to know how far off I was. Thanks.


Jake H. MM Member since 1999.
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"Hey MichaelJ U did great with your guess scores!"

Do I get my gold star now???? lol jk

Michael
"What I could do, I was doing, and that was simply putting my butt on the line for my country, the country that I loved, so that all the protestors and the academics and the liberal intelligentsia back home could enjoy the right to protest against people like me, the hated middleclass." --Gary R. Smith, US Special Forces
 
To bad Slayer doesn't score the women like he does Elk. Good job for winning the elk score buddy. I hope you can give me a lesson or two. I'm glad I was under though.
 
Hey JakeH U were not far off. U cant hold me to it because it was a few years ago i scored him and he is up at my cabin right now. I am pretty sure he was 49 inside. The bull just flares out at a pretty good angle. I think outside is 52. My cousin shot a bull in WY back in 97 that was 54 wide outside. Looked like a truck standing there looking at U. I did not know how wide mine was because i caught him a sleep in his bed and shot him right there. I got so close I could have shot him with a bow. I hope U guys had fun with it.
 
Whats funny is that I overscored the bull by 14" and last year I started a post complaining about everyone overscoring bulls and seeing 400"er's around every corner. Oh well, I'm an idiot. But my wife has known that for years....

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That elk and deer pic is a prime example of a pic not really showing how big they really are or in the elk pics case how good of a pic can be sometimes.In my last score game a few guys hammered me because they did not think that a buck in the pic scored as high as they thought. I looked back at the guessed scores and realized that half the scores were with in a couple of inches or over but because the pic does not look like it should score as much as they thought i was smoking crack. I guess i brought it on myself for posting on the puter. Hope U guys had fun with it. Maybe i will try the score game agian sometime.
 

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