Nation Association of Police and Sheriffs

[gleninaz]

Endorsed TRUMP!! Had endorsed the democraps for decades. Good move and watch the polls ignore it.

 

[grizzly]

Were you more likely to vote for Obama because of their endorsement? Then why would anybody else be more likely to vote for Trump because of it?

 

[DW]

Were you more likely to vote for Obama because of their endorsement? Then why would anybody else be more likely to vote for Trump because of it?

You need to work on your insults grizz, Lennie is not impressed. He may pick a new candidate for his replacement.

 

[RELH]

What you are missing grizzly is the fact the national police chiefs assoc. have always been strong Democrat supporters since they are appointed by city councils to their job. The sheriff's Assoc. is more moderate then the chiefs.
For them to desert the Democrats is a major change in itself. Might just be the bellringer of what is going to take place in Nov. at the election.
You can bet the mayor of NYC is going to find out how much voting power the cops have. There is 36,000 cops in NYC and just about everyone of them will not be voting for their liberal anti cop mayor at his next election. Figure in 1 or 2 family members of those cops voting and there is 70,000 to 100,000 votes going to someone else.
In the U.S. in 2018 there was over 686,000 cops on the job who will not be voting for Biden along with their family members. Add in the correction officers working at prisons, and you have several million votes that will not go to anti law enforcement Biden and his commie buddies. The Democrats were just plain stupid to jump on the anti cop bandwagon and defunding the police as the voting majority are against it. Dig out your crying towel grizzly as you will need in Nov.
RELH

 

[grizzly]

No insult intended, though I'm not surprised you take things so personally you assumed it was. No idea who Lennie is either.

Now you guys go on and get back to your conspiracy websites so you can post links about Bill Gates inventing CV-19 or one of the other ridiculous opinions you've been told to latch onto... and then proceed to follow in lockstep. Keep looking for other random people, whose opinions you previously didn't care about, to say something nice about Trump to make you feel better about yourselves, too.

A group that was one considered a liberal union-lover says one nice thing and now their opinion is front page of FoxNews next to a puff piece about the NRA endorsing Trump.

I used to think it would be easy to be a sheep following whatever somebody else told you to believe, but after watching you guys for the last few years, I feel nothing but pity. That must be exhausting keeping up on what buzzwords and opinions to parrot from your so-called leaders. And then you have to keep track of which leaders are still revered and which have been ostracized and are now considered "RINOs" or "deep state" for being independent and not succumbing to groupthink (a required trait of Trumpism).

 

[antlerradar]

What you are missing grizzly is the fact the national police chiefs assoc. have always been strong Democrat supporters since they are appointed by city councils to their job. The sheriff's Assoc. is more moderate then the chiefs.
For them to desert the Democrats is a major change in itself. Might just be the bellringer of what is going to take place in Nov. at the election.
You can bet the mayor of NYC is going to find out how much voting power the cops have. There is 36,000 cops in NYC and just about everyone of them will not be voting for their liberal anti cop mayor at his next election. Figure in 1 or 2 family members of those cops voting and there is 70,000 to 100,000 votes going to someone else.
In the U.S. in 2018 there was over 686,000 cops on the job who will not be voting for Biden along with their family members. Add in the correction officers working at prisons, and you have several million votes that will not go to anti law enforcement Biden and his commie buddies. The Democrats were just plain stupid to jump on the anti cop bandwagon and defunding the police as the voting majority are against it. Dig out your crying towel grizzly as you will need in Nov.
RELH

This is so true. I have a Cop friend in Wisconsin. After the 2016 election I asked him how may Wisconsin cops voted for Clinton. His answer was zero, well maybe one in a hundred. It wasn't always that way but the Democrats have become anti police and it is going to hurt. It is likely that BLM cost Clinton Wisconsin.

 

[RELH]

Grizzy you are the typical liberal numbskull. When the response hits home you divert to change the subject. If we got your panties in a wad, just wear it and try to grin.
You must be one of the few that still tunes in to CNN to get your fake daily news. You will always be clueless and uninformed the rest of your miserable life.
RELH

 

[eelgrass]

The polls show Biden a clear winner, so who cares what the police association does at this point?

I'd hate to get arrested by RELH. I bet he just begged criminals to make the reach....lol

 

[RELH]

Grizzy is this what you are referring to as a "conspiracy website". I would not be surprised if later polls show even a bigger margin of voters that are against defunding the police as the Dems are pushing and the voters got a strong taste of the looting, arson and other criminal acts that took place in Democrat liberal run cities. Those poll numbers below are at a rate of 2 to 1 not in favor. We will wait for your slanted spin and outright B.S.
RELH
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Most Americans balk at defunding the police
Recent polls asking people whether they support or oppose the “defund the police” movement or “defunding police departments”

DATES	POLLSTER	SUPPORT	OPPOSE
June 14-16	The Economist/YouGov	24%	53%
June 12-14	Morning Consult/Politico	28	58
June 10-11	ABC News/Ipsos	34	64
June 9-10	Reuters/Ipsos*	39	57
	Average	31	58

 

[grizzly]

I never once said I supported defund the police, never even implied it. I believe the root cause of the issue is the police unions keeping bad cops on the job.

Your polls proved my point... almost nobody wants it yet that's what you're scared of at night. Like I said above... parrot! They tell you what to fear and you run out and research it so you post it on a hunting site.

? squak defund the police squak ?

 

[grizzly]

This is so true. I have a Cop friend in Wisconsin. After the 2016 election I asked him how may Wisconsin cops voted for Clinton. His answer was zero, well maybe one in a hundred.

You just proved my point. This "endorsement" means absolutely nothing as they weren't voting for Biden anyway. Thank you.

 

[RELH]

Gee grizzy, you do have your panties in a wad. Keep on supporting the liberal left as you fit right in with them via your many posts. What scares me grizzy is the fact there is too many Trump hating left wing socialist loving fools like you that have drank the grape kool aide.
RELH

 

[Servehim]

The endorsement does next to nothing with regard to actual votes from the front line police officers, they voted Trump anyway regardless of what the political head honchos of the union said . At one point in my working career I was forced to be a Teamsters and pay the union dues that went entirely to support the Democrats. It infuriated me but couldn't change it ....though I tried. Same for these rank and file police officers, I'm happy they put enough pressure on union leaders to make a change.

 

[RELH]

Grizzy it looks Biden and the DNC are more worried about the Chiefs & Sheriffs Assoc. abandoning them then you give credit to it.
RELH
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DNC spokesperson insists Biden 'does not support defunding the police' after law enforcement group backs Trump
Biden previously said some police funds should 'absolutely' be redirected

 

[gleninaz]

Morons and hypocrites. Grizz is just deflecting. He knows public employee unions are the downfall of America so he uses that in this case. I don't support any public employee unions. They were illegal when I was young. I do think this switch is a big deal. When the leaders switch they are going off the reservation. A good sign for Trump. I see the Feds used tear gas and rubber bullets on the Antifa punks in Portland. A few more nights like that and the rats will all be gone. Law and order is going to be huge this fall.

 

[grizzly]

They tell you what to fear and you run out and research it so you post it on a hunting site.

And exactly one hour later you posted another headline ????

? squak Hannity & Tucker squak ?

 

[grizzly]

The endorsement does next to nothing with regard to actual votes from the front line police officers, they voted Trump anyway regardless of what the political head honchos of the union said .

Yep. Exactly what I wrote above. Some people just can't help but look for confirmation bias so they can pat themselves on the back and feel better about their views. But that's okay, it makes no difference anyway.

 

[Castnshoot]

Their are dozens of law enforcement organizations in this country.

Most are a “create a job for yourself” kind of thing.

Most use government grants and what not to survive.

Their endorsements are nothing more than pandering through an educated guess as to who they think has the best chance to be in power after any given election.

 

[DW]

I used to think it would be easy to be a sheep following whatever somebody else told you to believe, but after watching you guys for the last few years, I feel nothing but pity. That must be exhausting keeping up on what buzzwords and opinions to parrot from your so-called leaders. And then you have to keep track of which leaders are still revered and which have been ostracized and are now considered "RINOs" or "deep state" for being independent and not succumbing to groupthink (a required trait of Trumpism).

Says the guy who supported and defended BHA for years, when so many of us repeatedly told you who they were. GTFOH!

 

[hossblur]

Grizzly is kind of correct.

Does anyone really care about endorsements? I don’t trust my wife’s endorsements of movies, why do I care who someone I don’t know says they are voting for.

However, the underlying issue, is a big one. Soccer moms don’t like Trump. He’s a cheater, big mouth, crude.

But I’m betting they dislike violent crime, shootings, unlawfulness more.

At some point Biden has to stand on a debate stage and defend defund the police. Since he has a hard time with his name, it will be interesting to watch that dumpster fire.

 

[grizzly]

At some point Biden has to stand on a debate stage and defend defund the police.

Biden has already said he doesn't support defund the police. Chris Wallace made a fool out of Trump when he lied about Biden supporting it. You can see the videos all over the internet and Wallace's follow-up with Bill Hemmer where Trump reviewed the docs off-air and was proven wrong. The full interview airs tomorrow.

 

[gleninaz]

Actually Biden said he would redirect police funding to other needed areas. What's the difference?

 

[grizzly]

Per MarketWatch, a conservative site...

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“I don’t support defunding the police,” Biden said last month in a CBS interview. But he said he would support tying federal aid to police based on whether “they meet certain basic standards of decency, honorableness and, in fact, are able to demonstrate they can protect the community, everybody in the community.”

Biden added in remarks Wednesday to reporters: “We don’t have to defund the police departments; we have to make sure they meet minimum basic standards of decency.”

Biden’s criminal-justice agenda, released long before he became the Democrats’ presumptive presidential nominee, proposes more federal money for “training that is needed to avert tragic, unjustifiable deaths” and hiring more officers to ensure that departments are racially and ethnically reflective of the populations they serve.

Specifically, he calls for a $300 million infusion into federal community-policing grant programs.

That adds up to more money for police, not defunding law enforcement.

Biden also wants the federal government to spend more on education, social services and struggling areas of cities and in rural America, to address the root causes of crime.
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The repeated lie that Biden has called to defund the police, even by Trump himself, which thankfully a reputable journalist at Fox News called out, is just another example of Trump's Low Information Voter ? repeating whatever he says and looking to Trump for the talking points of the day.

 

[RELH]

Do you really think that the average voter is going to believe sleepy Joe. He has flip flopped too many times by going after the Bernie socialist vote and now is trying to swing back right.
Only fools and idiots and bent wrist liberals will put any store into what Biden says. It flat amazes me just how stupid some people are in this world and try to claim they are intelligent.
RELH

 

[hossblur]

Grizz

last I checked the cops on you neighborhood were not federal cops.

So sleepy joe is for federal control of local police?

You are a smart guy, the Obama administration did similar things.

How’s that worked out in Baltimore?

 

[grizzly]

Grizz

last I checked the cops on you neighborhood were not federal cops.

So sleepy joe is for federal control of local police?

You are a smart guy, the Obama administration did similar things.

How’s that worked out in Baltimore?

Read it again, it's for federal grants for community policing. The same way there are federal grants for UTA and wheelchair ramps on your sidewalks. That doesn't make them federal buses or sidewalks.

Trump's been there three and a half years, how's his record on violent crime in inner-cities? Are these cities safer? Or are we still just blaming Obama for all of Trump's failures?

He's built three miles of *new* wall, couldn't repeal Obamacare with both Chambers of Congress, still has no insurance replacement plan, has run record deficits, leads the most divided country in generations, and is still talking about Obama.

Like Trump said, "I take no responsibility at all."

? blame Obama ?

And PS, the Obama thing doesn't work with me because I never voted for him and he's not on the ticket. It's sad when Trump is in such dire straights that he resorts to bashing his predecessor and opponent since he has no successes to sell himself on.

 

[RELH]

Grizzy said:
Trump's been there three and a half years, how's his record on violent crime in inner-cities? Are these cities safer? Or are we still just blaming Obama for all of Trump's failures?
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Grizzy see my statement in post #24 concerning intelligence. I can not believe you tried to pass that one on Trump. Those cities have been in the control of Democrats for many years. Democrats that keep telling Trump, we do not need or want your help in our cities to try and curb crime. The only thing those Democrats want from the Feds is more money that they piss away and crime gets worse.
Democrats who have released many thousands of inmates back onto the street and when they commit a new crime, no bail to get out again. How about that BLM female that injured high ranking cops in New York and got out of jail and was celebrating her freedom. Yeah, blame it on Trump like a good little sniveling liberal that talks out of both sides of your mouth.
RELH

 

[grizzly]

Those cities have been in the control of Democrats for many years.

The parrot speaks again. Repeating exactly what Trump has been spewing this week.

And voting for Trump has done absolutely nothing to change whom those cities elect for Mayor. And it won't in November either.

? Trump can do no wrong ?
? Trump's my God ?
? Republicans good ?
? Democrats bad ?

 

[Bluehair]

Biden has already said he doesn't support defund the police. Chris Wallace made a fool out of Trump when he lied about Biden supporting it. You can see the videos all over the internet and Wallace's follow-up with Bill Hemmer where Trump reviewed the docs off-air and was proven wrong. The full interview airs tomorrow.

Biden doesn't need to express his support for anarchy. His supporters and surrogates will gladly handle that. Or are those Trump voters with the maltov cocktails?

 

[grizzly]

Biden doesn't need to express his support for anarchy. His supporters and surrogates will gladly handle that. Or are those Trump voters with the maltov cocktails?

Nope, they're wearing bed sheets and holding burning crosses. Or driving around in golf carts yelling "White Power!"

See what happens when you generalize poorly a subset of people.

Have you gone and read the racist garbage posted by Tucker's writer and the other stuff on those sites from Trump supporters. Clearly that's not representative of all Trump supporters, and Biden has 52% of all voters behind him yet you buy into the doctored photos from Fox News to make you think that's what Biden's supporters are like. You think that's representative of over half the American electorate. In reality, those anarchists consider Biden too moderate and want someone more extreme. Don't try and lump people together unless you want it done back to you... and you might not like where it goes.

 

[Homer]

you remind me of Adam on "Adam ruins everything"......

 

[Bluehair]

So, you are saying the white power movement is behind the effort to defund the police? I disagree, I believe they are Biden voters.

I've been lumped on the wrong side of pretty much everything for a while now. I expect I'll get over your scorn.

 

[elkassassin]

As CROOKED and CORRUPT and WICKED as this SOB is With COPS!

I Can't Imagine what it'd Be Without them!

But Then again!

The Cops/LE out on the Wasatch Spent Quite a bit of Time tracking Down & Citing the Vandals that Tipped the Cop Car Over & Burnt it during one of the Protests!

Then that PANTY-WASTE DA Turned them Loose!

What Good is the Law If We Can't Up-Hold it?

WAFJ!

 

[Homer]

DA's are elected....campaign against....

 

[hossblur]

Read it again, it's for federal grants for community policing. The same way there are federal grants for UTA and wheelchair ramps on your sidewalks. That doesn't make them federal buses or sidewalks.

Trump's been there three and a half years, how's his record on violent crime in inner-cities? Are these cities safer? Or are we still just blaming Obama for all of Trump's failures?

He's built three miles of *new* wall, couldn't repeal Obamacare with both Chambers of Congress, still has no insurance replacement plan, has run record deficits, leads the most divided country in generations, and is still talking about Obama.

Like Trump said, "I take no responsibility at all."

? blame Obama ?

And PS, the Obama thing doesn't work with me because I never voted for him and he's not on the ticket. It's sad when Trump is in such dire straights that he resorts to bashing his predecessor and opponent since he has no successes to sell himself on.

So you don’t want to comment on the dozen or so police departments the obama admin took over via federal mandates?

Come on man, you are smart enough you know exactly what happened, which is why you dodged

 

[elkassassin]

You Mean as in:

GET A ROPE?

DA's are elected....campaign against....