The non typ bull may be a new record,it was taken in unit 8.The first scores were not as big as the ones posted in the paper.The story used SCI and not P&Y scoring system.You always here of these stories and they never make it to the book!!!!I saw the bull in parks in the back of the truck of the guy that shot it and it was big!The gov. tag hunter shot a bull that gross scores 430+ and nets under 400.It has some un real thirds on it at 30 inches.Both of these bulls are bulls that you would shoot on the fisrt hour of the fisrt day of season.