Pass through hole

1911 · Nov 28, 2018

I've got a fire rated liberty safe that doesn't have a pass through. I know punching a hole will somewhat diminish the fire rating but I only need a hole large enough to pass some 16-2 zip chord in for a heating rod. Also I figure the humidity risk is far greater than what I will lose in fire rating under the current circumstances.

Anyone done this? Any huge regrets or pitfalls to avoid? I've even thought of pinching some Tstat wire in the corner of the door...only needs to run 15 watts I worry if I do that I may pinch a wire and cause headaches with a short.

I've never worried much about a humidity rod before but the temps have been higher where it was before.

feddoc · Nov 28, 2018

LAST EDITED ON Nov-28-18 AT 08:48PM (MST)[p]Have you called the safe company? Could the hole possibly void any warranty?

Or maybe try a reusable dessicant.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=reusable+desiccant+bags&go=Search&qs=ds&form=QBRE

?Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. "

Jagerdad · Nov 28, 2018

Heck ... I thought Elk had asked if you delivered a child ... OK my mind is clear ... you my man are posting a discussion ref Fire, heat and a Hole in a safe ( Safe or not, it could be anything ).

I shall not render a Math formula but my reply is darn near such.

First ... I mean the 1st thing anyone should ponder is HOW MUCH "POTENTIAL FUEL" is around + above such an object to be saved.

This COULD also apply to having a storm shelter in Tornado Alley.

Yes my Dear 1911, you can/could drill any size hole.

The REMEDY to such is cheap sheetrock or, heat resistant sheetrock.

In Home Depot it is termed: XP gypsum board also features a Type X core ... but if you do some research into COMMERCIAL Business offerings, you sure van find better.

But adhere to Best Practices so you never create a Mold environment.

Primers do not live well in such an environment ... Hench WWII in the Pacific + ages before, so, we got Crimped Bullet/Primer + Lacquer sealant at both spots...but such is another story.

As I try to keep this simple, I again refer to a Home Depot Product = 3M Fire Block Sealant FB 136 to seal interior construction voids around wires...

The Home Depot items are not the very best but they are so close to such... we should all grab such.

The Math aspect ( I refrain from, so Homer, My Bestest Buddy, is not upset at my azz )

is again, How much stored available Fuel is around and especially; ABOVE ( That which you desire to Protect ).

Even cheap sheetrock is light years better atop ( Sheets stacked ) and around front/side is better than zero.

I best stop due to you old farts skim reading and never remembering the last time you made a Post ( Gripes & Nagging & Insults well accepted ).

Jagerdad Your #90 TRANE specialist

RELH · Nov 28, 2018

1911 I would not worry about the fire rating for the safe. Most so called fire proof safes are only rated for anywhere between 1200 to 1800 degrees for a period of time of 30 to 45 minutes at the given temp on the safe.

A normal house fire will be over 2200 degrees to about 3000 degrees. There goes your guns in the safe. Just ask Kilowatt what happen to his guns in his gun safe. A total lost. I have seen guns from home fires on several occasions and none survived the fire inside the safe where they would be safe to shoot.

The best ones that came though, had charred wood, which indicated they suffered heat of over 400-500 degrees which would have damaged the heat treating of the steel and making the steel unsafe for high pressure rounds.

Put the rod in for rust protection. I also have a so called fire resistance gun safe, and I carry full replacement value on the guns inside that safe with my insurance company.

RELH

BIGJOHNT · Nov 28, 2018

What size hole are you thinking you need to drill? The hole in my safe came just large enough to stick a lamp cord threw. Then you assemble the plug on the outside. Or the other way around. Push the cord in and hook it to the dehumidifier. I believe the ones made for safes come this way. Oh led lights inside are nice.

Homer · Nov 28, 2018

shut the cord in the bottom corner of the door.....

Homer · Nov 28, 2018

...as far as insurance on guns....all are covered for fire.....the low 2500 or 5000 dollar number are for theft......

eelgrass · Nov 28, 2018

I think RELH is right, but you might try something like this to "putty" up the hole after you run your wire. It couldn't hurt.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rutland...h-Heat-Silicone-Clear-Cartridge-76C/202218156

Wiszard · Nov 28, 2018

What is the pass through hole for??

Cancer doesn't discriminate...don't take your good health for granted because it can be gone in a heartbeat. Please go back and read the last line. This time really understand what it says.

1911 · Nov 28, 2018

LAST EDITED ON Nov-28-18 AT 11:38PM (MST)[p]>What is the pass through hole
>for??
>
>Cancer doesn't discriminate...don't take your good
>health for granted because it
>can be gone in a
>heartbeat. Please go back and
>read the last line. This
>time really understand what it
>says.

As if you don't know Wiz. One hole is good as another. It's to run power to a dehumidifier rod.

fireball77 · Nov 28, 2018

The last time I was out there , there was so much profanity, and smoke I quickly shut the door and ran away !!!

Homer did you specify that the cord needed to be slammed not his finger ....hahaha

eelgrass · Nov 29, 2018

HA! Those safe doors are kind of heavy.

elkassassin · Nov 29, 2018

>The last time I was out
>there , there was so
>much profanity, and smoke
>I quickly shut the door
>and ran away !!!
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>Homer did you specify that the
>cord needed to be slammed
>not his finger ....hahaha

LMAO!

Were there any Newly Engineered Swear Words?

I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces

It Ain't Easy being Me!

Gator · Nov 29, 2018

look on the bottom of the safe they have redhead anchor holes just use one of them.

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Wiszard · Nov 29, 2018

What's the need for a dehumidifier? The cold weather?

Cancer doesn't discriminate...don't take your good health for granted because it can be gone in a heartbeat. Please go back and read the last line. This time really understand what it says.

elkassassin · Nov 29, 2018

>What's the need for a dehumidifier?
>The cold weather?
>
>Cancer doesn't discriminate...don't take your good
>health for granted because it
>can be gone in a
>heartbeat. Please go back and
>read the last line. This
>time really understand what it
>says.

To Keep Black Guns from Rusting Wisz!

That's Why I Like Silver Guns!

And Yes they will Rust Too!

I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces

It Ain't Easy being Me!

elkassassin · Nov 29, 2018

Have you ever heard of Condomsation Wisz?

If Not?

Have Ms Wisz SPLAIN it!

I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces

It Ain't Easy being Me!

BOHNTR · Dec 3, 2018

Liberty mini dehumidifier might work better for you? No drilling, etc., needed...Liberty Safes sell them.

BOHNTR )))---------->

feddoc · Dec 3, 2018

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>To Keep Black Guns from Rusting
>Wisz!
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>That's Why I Like Silver Guns!
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>And Yes they will Rust Too!
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>I know so many people in
>so many places
>They make allot of money but
>they got sad faces
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>It Ain't Easy being Me!

Yup, I had a stainless .Ruger 44 develop surface rust while I was in Corpus Christi.

?Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. "

Wiszard · Dec 3, 2018

Our weather is pretty mild here on the coast so we don't have to worry about that stuff.

Cancer doesn't discriminate...don't take your good health for granted because it can be gone in a heartbeat. Please go back and read the last line. This time really understand what it says.

elkassassin · Dec 3, 2018

>Our weather is pretty mild here
>on the coast so we
>don't have to worry about
>that stuff.
>
>Cancer doesn't discriminate...don't take your good
>health for granted because it
>can be gone in a
>heartbeat. Please go back and
>read the last line. This
>time really understand what it
>says.

I'll Bet your Humidity on Average is way Higher than Ours Wisz!

I know so many people in so many places
They make allot of money but they got sad faces

It Ain't Easy being Me!