the problem is , is it's hard to completly explain what a person is trying to say over the internet.
both side of it:
1. if you dont say oregon is awsome hunting then your a whinner
2. if you dont complain about oregon being the worst state for hunting, your an ignorant, must not have ever hunted another state dreamer.
i'm pretty sure we both know oregon hunting is in dismal[sp?] shape. some guys just try and let you know , without getting into the complainers line, that with some effort- you can still have fun here. i'm ABSOLUTLY not saying it is great hunting
another problem is i dont belive alot of the very same guys who say " you should hunt another state" are comparing "apples to apples"
you cant research a unit in wyoming for good deer hunting, draw the tag, then say how much better wyoming is than oregon.
i killed a six point bull in idaho a few yrs ago, went with 2 other buddies. on are 7 day hunt WE DID NOT SEE A BUCK! this was the end of october into november. i'm quit certain i can do better than that on 90% of the units i hunt in oregon.
2 yrs ago me and a buddy drew tags in wyoming. both killed decent bulls- we seen 1 buck , AT NIGHT, that was "decent" 3x4 with good mass, 22" wide. lots of does and 2 points. i can do better than that here in oregon also.
5 yrs ago me and 2 buddies bow hunted montana for elk. yep you guessed it, not 1 big buck seen NOT 1! i CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT here in oregon.
everyone who says " go hunt another state" need to just go to the different forum right here on MM and see EVERY STATE has their issues. EVERY ONE OF THEM. you make it sound like the best hunt in oregon is worse than the worst deer hunt in any other state. that is ignorance at it's best. you should take your own advice and hunt other states a little more.
i will be right in the same line as you guys when it's time to do my b!tching and moaning to ODF&W about the issues we have here, but year after year i'm still going to give it my best shot and try to outhunt a unit. b!itching should be saved for the people it matters to, but when were all here together- dont try and convince me that you know more or have more "experiance" because you dont. we both agree, it's just how we go about life, someguys will sit on there butts complaining about how bad things are, others - while fighting the same battles to make things better- will go make the best of it they can.
oh but by the way- i did just use some of my worst experiances in other states as an example. i'd love to tell you about some deer deer hunts in new mexico and colorado
that was some OUTSTANDING buck hunting