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LAST EDITED ON Dec-19-19 AT 08:54PM (MST)[p]When Christianity Today calls the Stain out and to be removed from office you got a problem.

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html

Excerpt:

"But the facts in this instance are unambiguous: The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president's political opponents. That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral."

Wait a minute, Bob D would dispute that, Trump did nothing wrong and everyone knows Billy Graham was a abortion peddling do-nothing liberal.

Yeppers, gonna be awhile before this posts receives any replies. Now who wants to have that wrong side of history discussion?
 
Does that mean you also think that Baptist church group in Florida that protest at funerals of veterans is also right. You probably do.

RELH
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-20-19 AT 01:25AM (MST)[p]Put your earplugs back in your cranium sloplayer the feces is leaking out. Christianity Today was founded by Billy Graham in 1956 carries a subscriber list of 5 million, is considered a premier periodical for evangelical followers, it holds a media bias rating of right-center.

Ukraine money trail, easy, Kremlin/Putin-Firtash-Fruman-Parnas-Giuliani-Trump. Oligarchs get their money from Putin, Firtash (just hired Toensig and digeneva, I know right I am shocked too) gave money to Fruman, Fruman and Parans then hired Rudy Giuliani. Trump made Giuliani his point man to get Zelensky to shift election meddling to please Putin and fabricate a conspiracy cover up with Burisma. Thus hopefully tarnishing his political opponent Biden to gain an advantage in the 2020 election.

That is why when you support Trump you are support a POS. An orange stained POS that put his non-paid personal attorney in charge of US policy in Ukraine while Rudy is being paid by Parnas, Parnas was being funded by Firtash, Firstach is a Russian Oligarch wanted for Fraud in the United States, and gets his money from Putin. So in essence Trump placed a Russian paid Rudy in charge of Operation Ukraine, advising all other to report to Rudy at a time when Ukraine is being illegally occupied by Russia.

Make sense fecal brain matter? If not just open your mouth, maybe be Bob D can fill you up with some of his knowledge.
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"Does that mean you also think that Baptist church group in Florida that protest at funerals of veterans is also right. You probably do."

Can CFLD invade the brain? It appears so. I think religion is for cripples and those scared of dying, I'm neither. As for the Westboro Church who share the same message about homosexuality as Vice President Pence, you know, the guy you voted for.

Do you think that fatboy or Lumpy as I refer to him Pompeo, do you think he knew Rudy was getting paid with Putin's money. Guess we will find out in awhile, it took Lumpy 11 days to remember he was on the Trump call with Zelensky.
 
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Let me get this straight. Your claiming the trump camp did all that to frame Biden to damage his campaign? I would love to meet the person that A) doesn't think Joe Biden is a dumb phuk B)doesn't have advanced dimensia & C)can actually win the election?

As a matter of fact, you may want to get yourself checked for the very same thing. Hell the socialist party should bring you on board as their strategist since they weren't even able to conjure up one as good as you did. Uncle Joe & his crackhead kid painted a pretty clear picture on their own fruition for everybody to see.

The fact that you seem to be fine with the career good ol boys club self enrichment program is disturbing to me. Maybe you can explain how they've all become filthy rich long before Trump decided to wade into the swamp. This should be good.
 
why not have him explain why he supports a known socialist for President Bernie.......he says Trumps in cahoots with Putin but Bernie honeymooned in Russia and supports socialism. So who's more closely aligned with Russia? Bernie , Putin, and FTW.....by his.... OWN ADMISSION..... he supports a socialist candidate and that folks is the end of the story and explains why he's working so hard trying to rationalize the socialist movements actions in this country......SEE FTW transparency isn't such a bad thing but it sure explains your support for the socialist movement....and if we can't believe your own admission then it casts doubt on your real intentions......hey comrade....
 
The magazine that Billy founded should have checked with Billy?s son 1st.

Franklin Graham -
?I hadn't shared who my father @BillyGraham voted for in 2016, but because of @CTMagazine?s article, I felt it necessary to share now. My father knew @realDonaldTrump, believed in him & voted for him. He believed Donald J. Trump was the man for this hour in history for our nation.?


.?@CTMagazine released an editorial saying @POTUS Trump should be removed from office & they invoked my father?s name, so I felt I should respond. Yes, @BillyGraham founded Christianity Today; but no, he would not agree w/ their piece. He?d be disappointed.?
 
A really smart guy shared some words of advise with me years ago, words that he had been given. "If you chose to wrestle with pigs you're bound to get dirty."

Boski, you have illustrated that you do not understand the difference between a Communist Socialist and a Democratic Socialist.

https://time.com/5422714/what-is-democratic-socialism/

Excerpt:

American politicians today who are associated with democratic socialism generally favor New Deal-style programs, believing that government is a force for good in people?s lives and that a large European-style welfare state can exist in a capitalist society. They generally support ideas such as labor reform and pro-union policies, tuition-free public universities and trade schools, universal healthcare, federal jobs programs, fair taxation that closes loopholes that the wealthiest citizens have found, and using taxes on the rich and corporations to pay for social welfare programs.

Do you like having Public Schools K-12m Fire Dept, Police Dept, Interstate Highways, National Parks, BLM, just to name a few daily reminders and aspects of what democratic socialism is?

Hey +1, would you like me to post some more links establishing direct ties? Look up Dmytro Firtash.
 
You should reread what you posted dip shyt. The word believing was used to describe it but it's never been successfully executed anywhere. So in reality there is no difference because in the end it's about money,power & control over the masses because human beings are involved. Your a fool & a sucker! Now give up 80% of what you have to the federal government & put your money where your mouth is.
 
FTW, I thought you were better than this. You?re basically Manny with the TDS. Sorry that you jumped on this story before it went nowhere but as has been typical throughout Trump?s presidency, you sir were wrong... again!
 
I can't debate the fact you're simply a damn fool to believe that tripe. So why not be a man of your conviction's renounce your citizenship and move to a socialist country...that way at least you'll get the full experience rather than just believe that which you've never lived. That tripe was written to serve as a template to open your mind to accepting socialism and all it's fine quality's (BS).....as a form of governance. Let's face reality here a bit, most college professors today, are socialists or leftest idealists and promote these thought's in many schools today.


The reality is that socialists lied in taking over every single country on earth they converted so what makes you think they're being honest with you? History & truth support our case, while rhetoric, fiction and Utopian dreams yet unfulfilled support yours......Then we have the biggest fact of all in that millions and millions of corpses lie in unmarked graves that died for them to achieve the power of their control. They didn't get to pick their doctor or keep their healthcare or their final resting place and their government had control. Truth and socialism rarely align and many of us know that and aren't as easy to fool as you seem to be. So why not give it a whirl and show us how wrong we are........LOL
 
I tried to tell you forkie.......he's firmly entrenched! Hopefully he'll see the light but at this point he's all in!
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-22-19 AT 10:41PM (MST)[p]Yeah, he tried to tell ya Forkie, atleast he's been trying to tell everyone what an idiot he is, but nobody seems to notice. I get it, this is not well-read or facts-based type of crowd.

"The reality is that socialists lied in taking over every single country on earth they converted."

No they did not and....you're an idiot that has no idea what he is talking about. There are 26 democratic socialist countries, we are allies with all of them, moron.

Which White Power fb site did you scribble that piece of trash from as a regular talking point?

Like all the bs you spew you have no grasp of facts, yet insist that you do. And like another little girl on here, you run away from simple questions. Let's try it again Natalia a simple Yes or No will suffice.

Do you like having Public Schools K-12, Fire Depts, Police Depts, Interstate Highways, National Parks, BLM, Paramedics, mass transit?

If Socialism is so inherently evil, riddle all of us this you human colostomy bag...

Why is Trump inviting Socialists to our country Trotsky if they are so evil? After all Norway is a democratic socialist country?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...reject-trumps-immigration-offer-idUSKBN1F11QK

Excerpt:

"The Nordic country, one of the richest in the world by GDP per capita, was last year named the happiest nation on the planet and is known for a cradle-to-grave welfare state funded in part by large reserves of oil and natural gas."

According to Trotski = TRUMP HATES AMERICA, INVITES EVIL-RICH-NORWEGIAN SOCIALISTS FOR CITIZENSHIP!

All Trotsky does is rant and rave, spewing ignorance, and sewing seeds of division. Given your incoherence and absence of knowledge it is painfully evident that you and those that applaud your idiocy truly do not understand the difference between Communist Socialism and Democratic Socialism.

Cuba, China, the former USSR, and North Korea are communist socialist countries.

Hey sociopathski get your facts straights before you pull your wet diaper act, while amusing some of the slower children in the room actually believe what you say.
 
Show your math for how that's all gonna work here FTW. Please include your open border policies & ?free? everything being proposed by the morons you've hitched your ideological wagon to. Thanks
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-23-19 AT 07:45AM (MST)[p]FTW, It's time you really speak out and let us know how you feel. So let's see you're for removing the president when he has committed no crime as evidenced by your party's impeachment. Why do you think the senate will exonerate him and members of your own part voted against it?

You're for promoting socialism openly when it kind of goes against your fake handle...... most of those you honor died to promote a free society and stop tyranny and many forms of governance you're promoting with your ignorance. See they took an oath to protect and defend this nation just like you did and now you're supporting a party that tried to remove a sitting president by illegal means. See the difference between what you fools did and what he did is he followed legal channels to ask for an investigation into corruption by the officials of their country. Which is common by our state department, I know you can't fathom that but we ask for changes in laws or enforcement of illegal activity in many countries we give aid too.

While your party broke our laws to investigate him and his campaign illegally using fraudulent documents as a predicate to start an illegal investigation, which in itself is a criminal act. Not to mention the fact they spied on Americans illegally. Then of course it goes hand in hand with your party cheating their own members out of their rightful candidate again gaming the system.

Yes I can clearly see where you think you've got the high ground when in reality you're just rolling in the mud with the rest of the pigs you support. All those fine pigs that took an oath of office to protect and defend the constitution and laws of this country yet they refuse to follow many of them daily as they exploit the millions upon millions of law abiding citizens of this country with their false allegiance to our country......Manufacturing fake evidence against anyone who opposes their socialist agenda and telling everyone they should be prosecuted for their illegal acts.

See there's a big difference in respecting and following the law and the open acts of civil disobedience your party follows. The members of your party are as disingenuous as you are, in that they know that they can change the law as the constitution allows, except they can't so damn the constitution we'll just do what we want.....

That right there is the start of a lawless society skippy and you and your ilk are responsible for it in many states currently, not the majority in this country who are wondering why this is going on. You either abide by the laws or you don't it's really just that simple and your damn hypocrisy is about as telling as your ignorance.

As far as most of us are concerned arrests should be made, they should be tried, and those guilty of treason should get their just reward and you're just a complicit misguided little fool in this whole damn mess..........You're lucky you're here because in many of the countries that support what you want.... you and your cabal would already be arrested for crimes against the state, jailed and most likely executed.......so keep trying to convince us your way is the best way you damn fool, your ignorance abounds.

I fail to see how with what we know has happened thus far there's so much good to support the type of socialism you support because frankly your politicos actions seem to support SOCIALISM in where the STATE's in control not the people but keep trying to convince us. This should be checkmate but your logic is definitely a product of socialism in it's most rudimentary form.... Party over people...which boils down to Party Politic over Law.... which reverts to Party in Control.........eh comrade.....LOL
 
So what you guys are saying is the Trump should be removed from office. I get that you are 100% in support of the CT article, although I did have issues with the author's preface.

Breaking News! The United States transcended from a market economy to a mixed economy about a 100 years ago. Our form of governance is a Democratic Constitutional Republic, our economy is a blend of Capitalism and Socialism.

Ask RELH about the evils of Democratic Socialism or anyone that has ever served in the U.S. Military. Any service paid by tax dollars is a form of Socialism.

Their and There, sound the same, 2 completely different words.

Democratic Socialism and Communist Socialism, 2 similar terms with completely different meanings. Idiots parrot the ills of Communist Socialism and portray them to be one in the same, when in fact they are not. Look up the definitions, find a friend that car read and have them explain it to you.
 
The American people aren't buying your BS and neither is the UK. But sure keep telling us that importing foreign democrat voters and educating public school children to be democrats is great for us. If only your brand of socialism could be tried and if we could just hand over our liberties, cash and freedom to the democrats we'll all live in utopia. Sounds great!
 
What FTW is not admitting is that the Democratic socialism model that CA. is and FTW voted for the Democrats running it. Forced him to move out of state because he could no longer afford to live here in the comfort that he wanted.
Kind of makes him a hypocrite at best.

RELH
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-23-19 AT 03:55PM (MST)[p]




They're only separate terms to you and IDIOT's like AOC who like you is incapable of understanding what socialism is....LOL

Here you go maybe this will eliminate your attempt to redefine things...even with lipstick it's still a pig in spite of you dressing it up and calling it a democratic pig. Make sure you play the Chuck Todd interview it's very enlightening.......LOL




https://www.redstate.com/brandon_mo...atest-interview-proves-doesnt-know-socialism/


Is this like the " we don't want your guns argument that you tried to redefine for years" and then this year just came out and said you really wanted them......

see how you keep redefining things and taking more away.......just like how you lied about Obamacare to bankrupt the system so you could control it.....and BERNIES still trying to get control over all those $$$$$$ isn't he.....that would be your candidate.....who's openly supported socialism.... and more government control.....see the pigs still there no matter how you redefine it.....
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-23-19 AT 04:57PM (MST)[p]Here's another good look at what one of the candidate that support Bernie thinks. Pay attention to what AOC states about our country not being an advanced society....... and then in the 2nd video (included) AOC asks are we ready for a revolution? Bernie has promised her a place in his cabinet........Why are they asking for change? Revolution? Hmmm that's not uniting dialogue it's extremism and her candidate supports SOCIALISM.....

link

https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama...an-advanced-society-its-fascism-what-we-have/
 
She's dumber than any fence post I've ever seen, with the exception of Mazie Hirono or Hank "Guam" Johnson. Perhaps she should stick to making bartending great again or going back to school to learn what real fascists are. She only need look in the mirror to find one.

Yeah America totally wants these radicals telling us how many holes we can have in our Swiss cheese and if we don't have the right number we'll be fined or jailed in order to comply.
 
jeezus wetmule......everytime I hear Hank's name I have to rewatch this....we are ruled by these clowns....



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Nothing but the best and the brightest for the Dems... can't believe we have to pay his salary & benefits. A true FTW hero
 
I guess FTW is still working out the numbers for how we're gonna pay for his dream of democratic socialism? The dopes in charge added the democratic part to make it sound different to dopes like FTW.
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-24-19 AT 01:29AM (MST)[p]Move over CT you have company, what do the folks at the Christian Post have to say?

Convict Trump: The Constitution is more important than abortion

https://www.christianpost.com/voice...titution-is-more-important-than-abortion.html

Excerpt:

"Christians should advocate for President Donald J. Trump?s conviction and removal from office by the Senate. While Trump has an excellent record of appointing conservative judges and advancing a prolife agenda, his criminal conduct endangers the Constitution. The Constitution is more important than the prolife cause because without the Constitution, prolife advocacy would be meaningless."

Hilarious!

What? Redstate wrote an article criticizing a Dem tell me it isn't so. You mean the site that is rated extreme right on media bias and has sold out to Trumpers does not like AOC, mindblowing.

Redstate, Townhall, these right wing trash sites owned by Salem are no different than the garbage Sinclair controls and spews out.

Excerpt:

"We learned personally that writers who dare to examine President Trump or the MAGA mentality are purposely suppressed in private or even publicly criticized. In one case, one of us (Kimberly) wrote a piece that was critical of Trump supporters? attempts to dismiss bomb threats as a liberal hoax. It was published but any references to it on Twitter or Facebook were deleted and done so repeatedly without explanation. Only after speaking up did she learn the piece wouldn't get shared on social media, and instructions came down from Salem management to stop discussing the incident with colleagues"

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...as-local-news-anchors-recite-script-in-unison

Like Fox, these are just Trump propaganda outlets carefully manipulating the news as to not upset their delicate snowflake audience. If it criticizes the Orange Failure it's fake news or "lugenpresse" a term made famous by Adolf Hitler.

That's ridiculous FTW, what do Trump and Hitler have in common?

Excerpt:

First, the Nazi party allowed a coarse, uneducated leader to rise to prominence on a white privilege, nationalist wave. Second, the conservative establishment party foolishly thought it could appease him by sharing power. Third, that same Nazi party destroyed media credibility to silence critics. Fourth, the Nazis literally burned the establishment congress to the ground. Fifth, it seized authoritarian power by using unchallenged propaganda to precipitate an existential threat allegedly emanating from those outside the white Aryan race and outside the nation's borders.

https://www.usnews.com/news/at-the-...paganda-and-the-destruction-of-the-free-press
 
Only problem is Trump did absolutely nothing wrong. Democrats are liars. You should be ashamed of yourself for sticking up for them. How stupid to impeach a president when he has done nothing wrong? Only thing he did "wrong" was he kept Crooked Hillary from becoming President, and he kept all the promises he made to the people who elected him. They want to impeach him because he's doing a great job as President. Ridiculous.
 
FTW find another horse to beat to death. The opinion of one person at Christian Post is against the opinion of 200 Christian leaders is not worth a hill of beans just like your opinion is only worth a pile of manure.
RELH
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Almost 200 evangelical leaders have written to the president of Christianity Today to condemn an editorial in the magazine calling for President Trump to be removed from office. I have a general policy of not signing group letters, but I join in the criticism of the editorial.

The call for the president's removal is shortsighted for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that Trump and his administration have championed many issues of great importance to me and my fellow evangelicals.
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-24-19 AT 07:57AM (MST)[p]He's cat scratching hard trying to cover up for his party's misdeeds on America. The fact he keeps trying to redirect the narrative is quite telling. He hasn't figured out that he's not going to save them.........The fake impeachment and all the misdirection isn't going to work...... they're way ahead of him in knowing they're all going to be exposed........The feeble attempts to discredit all Trumps players isn't working information is still coming out in spite of them trying to control the media.......WHY?

Seems we must have hit a nerve when some subjective journalist'd pointed out His and AOC's lies about DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM......OOPS LOL

He stated religion is for weak people so why has he resorted to using a Christian Publication to try to discredit Trump....LOL DESPERATION IS STARTING TO SHOW!!

SO WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT MORE ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT????

DOES IT APPEAR THE DEMS LIKE FTW ARE TRYING HARDER TO COVER SOMETHING UP????????

They impeached him...... so why the delay? HMMMMM
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-24-19 AT 08:34AM (MST)[p]FTW is getting nervous because his Dem. flakes are going down one by one leaving Trump at the head of the line.

The Ukraine bribery scuttle butt incident is taking down Joe Biden instead of Trump.

AOC throwing her support behind Bernie will take him down when it gets out he is considering her for the V.P. position. Since the dumb idiot AOC is pushing that scenario of her being V.P.

Liar warren knocks herself down every time she opens her mouth and tells more lies about the cost of her crazy schemes that the people can not and do not want to afford.

Poor FTW will have to put up with Trump for four more years of prosperity instead of taxation you would get from the Democrats. Does anyone feel sorry for FTW? I don't.

RELH
 
Are you sure.....rumor has it FTW has more twitter followers than AOC and Bernie overlooked him.......must be the feminist thing.......
 
LAST EDITED ON Dec-26-19 AT 09:52AM (MST)[p]



In case you haven't heard it or seen it directly from the horses mouth I made it easy for you with the link below. There's 3 short video's on it and make sure you listen to all three. AOC proclaims she's a DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST on the first one in an interview with NBC and defines what it means to her and shows she's really trying to split hairs in the interview just like FTW does, to no avail and you have to conclude she's a socialist by her views.

In the second clip pay attention to how she says we need to evolve to a higher more advanced society and then openly promotes SOCIALISM and says our country is FASCIST.

The third clip AOC asks the rally "are you ready for the revolution"???? So pay heed to what they're proposing!!

This is the GOLDEN CHILD OF THE DEM PARTY and folks they're openly promoting SOCIALISM FOR YOUR COUNTRY while campaigning for PRESIDENT. These are the same folks trying to IMPEACH and remove TRUMP>>>>>>THE SAME PARTY THAT PLANTED EVIDENCE TO START AN ILLEGAL INVESTIGATION>>>>>>>

SEE A PATTERN HERE???? THEY WANT CONTROL OF YOUR COUNTRY BY WHAT EVER MEANS NECESSARY!!!!!!! CAN YOU UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WANT YOUR GUNS????

Here I made it easy for you here's the link from above

https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama...an-advanced-society-its-fascism-what-we-have/
 
FTW,

My tax dollars going to the worlds best fighting men and women in the world, is NOT socialism.
My tax dollars paying for your lazy ass to live better, is socialism.
Good luck in the next election.

hwy
 
Our tax dollars are going to all of the above as you mentioned.. Unfortunately yes there are those cheating and taking advantage of the system (with their lazy non-working a$$es). It is never going to be a perfect system. The irony is many of the lazy a$$es (capable but non working) who enjoy taking in the "socialism handouts" are the ones who ***** about democratic socialism the most. Example is all the the beer drinking, trailer trash, confederate flag swinging fanatical far right wingers who love their welfare. How Ironic is that?
 
Centerfire, those you listed are the minority. You left out the majority of that socialist class of welfare. The inner city getto gang bangers who supplement their welfare with drug dealing. That includes both blacks and Hispanic . The illegal border crosser that is on our welfare system. Oh! I almost forgot, all those beer swilling Indians living on the many reservations in this country. I guess those Confederate flag waving white trash are out numbered.
RELH
 
Forthewall said:
LAST EDITED ON Dec-19-19 AT 08:54PM (MST)[p]When Christianity Today calls the Stain out and to be removed from office you got a problem.

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html

Excerpt:

"But the facts in this instance are unambiguous: The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president's political opponents. That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral."

Wait a minute, Bob D would dispute that, Trump did nothing wrong and everyone knows Billy Graham was a abortion peddling do-nothing liberal.

Yeppers, gonna be awhile before this posts receives any replies. Now who wants to have that wrong side of history discussion?
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There was nothing of a level to violate Constitution FTW. There was some use of his power but not on constitution violation level. You are very deluded.
 
RELH said:
Centerfire, those you listed are the minority. You left out the majority of that socialist class of welfare. The inner city getto gang bangers who supplement their welfare with drug dealing. That includes both blacks and Hispanic . The illegal border crosser that is on our welfare system. Oh! I almost forgot, all those beer swilling Indians living on the many reservations in this country. I guess those Confederate flag waving white trash are out numbered.
RELH
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You missed my point. The Majority (blacks, hispanics, indians) you mention, consistently vote for the Dem candidate and in turn support the welfare (nothing ironic here). The Minority I mentioned, vote Repub which doesn't make sense since they enjoy/depend on the "socialism" handouts so much. I am pointing out how ironic this is...
 
Centerfire I do not know where you reside, but from my area the poor white trash vote 90% Democrat. Even the white supreme idiots if they bother to go to the polls to vote.

RELH
 

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