Just to get this out of the way .243 this is my first post. I have been looking on MM for 2 or 3 years now, GREAT JOB TO EVERBODY AND THEIR HARVESTS AND LOTS OF GREAT PIC'S. I have read alot of posts but this one is very odd, it turned out to be the Vernon & Goshen boys, and some *ickman who is looking for some cheap guide rates if he remembers to put in, IN MARCH... My opinion is that DIY basically is the only one sticking up for going out, scouting, and KILLING YOUR OWN DEER THAT YOU FOUND BY YOURSELF. Where are all the people that did not let the guy from Texas shoot the GENERAL??? It is the same thing. How many people have gone on a guided hunt, killed a nice deer, had it mounted, got it on the wall, and when people walk in, see it, and say where did you kill that nice buck? They say I went on a guided hunt, the guide spent all summer paterning this deer, I had to get up @ seven O'clock, get dressed, get in the warmed up truck, drank my coffee while driving 2 blocks to the vernon hay feild, got out and walked 15 ft. to the fence I mean 50 ft. and I shot it, back @ the house by 10:00 and on the road back to the city and civilization. NOT!!!!!!!!!!! I was raised by my father and grandfather that hunting is a great opportunity and we should appreciate it , NOT EXPLOIT IT. BY THE WAY BIGBUCKCHASER DID YOUR DAD ALSO TEACH YOU TO BRING SOMEBODY'S WIFE INTO AN ARGUEMENT??? THAT'S GOT TO BE EMBARRASSING NOW. Sorry if I offended any true sportsmen.