I havent spent much time here in the last few weeks, I have two boys in baseball and have been out in the woods chasing elk. I signed on yesterday and saw what 30Inch buck posted and it ticked me off a bit. Trophy is defined for the most part by the hunter and I am going through what a trophy is to my wife right now. She has passed on a few bulls now that in hind sight she knows now she should have taken. I am thoroughly enjoying trying to juggle our schedules and get her out in the woods knowing that she is like alot of other first timers that without help she wouldnt get a shot let alone glass up animals. I saw 30Inch's post and know that unless you are on the hunt with the person, its very hard to say how hard the person worked for his/her animal. Hope all is well with you Bucksnort and if you are on the Kaibab this year then maybe we can hook up. I will be up there for the late hunt and possibly for the Juniors doe hunt for my son.........take care........ Allen Taylor......