offtrail
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Honestly...I would rather write in your name than either of there's and I don't even know you...But would you? Is he “your” lesser of two evils?
Right now it is Biden or Trump,,, no other choice.
Honestly...I would rather write in your name than either of there's and I don't even know you...But would you? Is he “your” lesser of two evils?
Right now it is Biden or Trump,,, no other choice.
I can't dispute this about the SS protections this is well known.....however, he should have know that the media would have a field day on this "hunting of an endangered species". and many many publications did. regardless if you think it's true or I do the fact is its out there and it sheds a negative light on hunting.
Funny most of the local 'Bro's' here in northern NM say the same thing. Quote to me from one of them... you're doing it all wrong... just go at night and shine a light in their eyes and they will just stand right there. True story.Oh.....come on now. That doesn't even sound like something you can do in Utah. All the sheep hunters know the best hunting is at night.
To be honest.... I would rather vote for a few of you that have gave credible coherent responses. I take this forum and the people on it at there word. regardless if I agree with it, and I respect your beliefs even if I don't agree with them. Thats what makes us great.But would you? Is he “your” lesser of two evils?
Right now it is Biden or Trump,,, no other choice.
Offtrail,
Nearly all the states that are being destroyed by Covid-19 and riots are ran by Dems. Did you know he went from the 20% range to 41% on support of black voters even with what is going on currently. 2.5 Million jobs added in May that's unheard of in a crisis we are in. Not one of his predecessors could accomplish that. And it's only going to get better by opening the economy. He stands for Law and order as we've seen. He calls out the weak mayors who are tying there Police officers hands. Whom which are getting pelted with piss bottles, bricks, stabbed, shot, dogs are getting hung by rioters. But weak a55 democrats are just saying let them vent. Well the let them vent mentality isn't working. Because most of these rioters didn't get their a55es beat by mom and dad enough. We've got a speaker of the house that refuses to bring the house in session to vote on issues because the virus is so bad. But yet she marches with protesters without a mask. So really who is the evil. I'm not sure where you live but if you are in one of these cities that's been destroyed. I hope you love your new insurance rates and taxes that are coming as well as inflation. So no none of this is trumps fault it is one hundred percent weak leaders at the local level.
Great post Hoss!Take responsibility for failures? Unprofessional? Loud?
I watched the mayor of Atlanta a week ago tell the rioters to “take their asses home”.
I know nothing about her but straight talk I applauded.
The reaction to trumps language is mind blowing and only proves how SOFT some have become.
Who do you want him to hug? Pelosi? Shummer?
Don’t forget, HE KNOWS what was done to him.
Imagine being the President KNOWING you were spied on by the former President. Knowing the leaders of the Dems knew about it. KNOWING they tried to set you up in a coup.
He KNOWS. He KNOWS how dirty Biden is. He knows ALL OF IT.
He’s much bigger than i am.
But I’m still in shock how much people like smoke blown up their asses. We had 8 yrs of happy talk, nice speeches.
Trump was elected to destroy that. And like it or not he has.
I have zero interest in “coming together” with Sanders, AOC, etc. Have way to socialism is still socislism
PC speech is BULLSHIT. It is looking you in the eye and LYING TO YOU.
Why do you care what he says? What is he doing?
It’s not Trump. Watch a press conference. It’s nothing but “gotcha” and PC crap.
If Trump was a sniper he would fail and give up the operation....he's uncalculated and has no true respect for the people around him, He goes rouge.... A operation that needs the attention of all fails. Then he would blame it on his partner...He has proven time after time to throw his fellow warriors under the bus after turning a blinds eye to there much needed advice..... and that's not how I roll....there are plenty of bright minds that can implement cohesive change in a sniper like fashion.....Trump is not one of them!!!
He had it lined up... controlled the house... senate....the presidency....he fired a long rang shot he wasn't prepared for....possibly giving up the whole operation...
Lost the house.... the senate is up for grabs in a close battle ... the Presidency is up for grabs....our democracy....
I Guarantee if he looses it all he will balme it on others....
Hope you boys didn't put all you eggs in the trump party....cuz if it fails...the Republican party dies also....
It's in the works the uniparty .........ANTI-TRUMPERS , and ANTI COP LIBERALS and the liberal media taking us to globalism......Nirvana awaits!!! Or at least a globalist socialists form of the same where you're shoveling the propaganda with satan himself and owned by the state!
The original poster exposed himself in his post as an anti-hunter posing as one of us.........Not only is he after your guns he's going to protect your wildlife for you and give a wink to looters it's OK to steal your stuff!!
I see what you write... you're an antagonizer...You posted about five or six time on this thread with nothing, no insight on anything....FTW?
even though you hate me I kinda like you. Your at least funny at times. Maybe you could edit my **** for me.LOLyou're....as in you are
definitely not FTW ......he could properly punctuate
I see what you write... you're an antagonizer...You posted about five or six time on this thread with nothing, no insight on anything....
If Trump was a sniper he would fail and give up the operation....he's uncalculated and has no true respect for the people around him, He goes rouge.... A operation that needs the attention of all fails. Then he would blame it on his partner...He has proven time after time to throw his fellow warriors under the bus after turning a blinds eye to there much needed advice..... and that's not how I roll....there are plenty of bright minds that can implement cohesive change in a sniper like fashion.....Trump is not one of them!!!
He had it lined up... controlled the house... senate....the presidency....he fired a long rang shot he wasn't prepared for....possibly giving up the whole operation...
Lost the house.... the senate is up for grabs in a close battle ... the Presidency is up for grabs....our democracy....
I Guarantee if he looses it all he will balme it on others....
Hope you boys didn't put all you eggs in the trump party....cuz if it fails...the Republican party dies also....
Trumps Russian move. Nicelol....I wouldn't piss on your head if your hair was on fire
And then don't forget Obama took the crooked money and bought a big estate on the ocean after he spent 8 years conning the American people about climate change and the phony sea level rise.Offtrail, you were asked a good question. Who do you plan to vote for in Nov. Trump or Biden.
As for me, it will be Trump hands down for my vote. Some reasons why. Trump has kept more of his campaign promises then Clinton, Bush, or Obama.
As for Obama, he was the biggest and best con-man ever elected to the office of president. Even worse then tricky d!ck Nixon.
Like Biden, he used his office to line his own pockets with millions of dollars while failing to deliver on his promises. He failed to pass bills that would help the citizens, even his own people when he had a majority of both houses during his first two years in office.
He lied about the attack on our embassy that killed 4 Americans because it would dispute his statement that he had the terrorists on the run and it would effect his re-election for his second term.
Instead of firing Lois Lerner for her targeting conservative non profit groups with IRS examinations, he allowed her to retire with a full pension on the tax payers back. Have you ever wondered why he failed to punish her?
The supervisor agent in charge of the "fast and furious" scandal of allowing about 2,000 firearms get into the hands of Mexican cartels that were used to kill a border patrol agent was never admonished by Obama for his malfeasance. Instead he was promoted to the Washington D.C. office which is a prized duty station. The Democrats tried to use that figure to promote their anti gun bill on so called assault weapons. Have you wondered why Obama failed to punish that ATF supervisor.
Unlike Biden or Hillary, Obama was more cunning about getting his pocket lined with millions of dollars. He saw that a certain company got the contract for the "CORE" education program, that my two family members that are school teachers say was a worthless program that is being abandoned by many school districts.
After Obama leaves office, a publishing company that is connected to the company that got the CORE program for many millions of dollars, gives the Obama's a 65 million dollar book deal to write their memoirs. There is many book authors that have written several best sellers that can not get that great of a book deal. No way that publishing company will sell enough books to get their 65 million back and make a profit on top of it. Does that not strike you as possibly being a payoff to the Obama's wallet?
The Democrats gave us Obama, then they tried to give us crooked Hillary, then on the third time in a roll they are trying to give us another crook in Biden. Who on top of it all is in the first stages of dementia and does not know where he is most of the time.
So now you know why we laugh at you being a fool for bad mouthing Trump when the Dems have given us three outright losers and crooks in a row. Now who do you plan to vote for this Nov.
RELH
Well done.The socialist/communist Democrats need to take their knee off our necks, we can't breath.
The real question is IF Biden wins are we all going to agree to trade AR so there is no record?
Beto is in charge of Biden’s gun policy
who did?.....lots of posts hereo no you drank the kool aid
I missed this one.....Well that's cuz you have a ***** and you squat when you piss...lol....I wouldn't piss on your head if your hair was on fire
I do not see the need to pull the system apart, and I have not seen a similar degree of success in any nation where the population is split ideologically. Not in Iraq, Israel, Serbia...
Bullskin"Bullskin. Do all you guys out there that want Trump out of office really want Biden to take over. You do realize when the crazies take over the insane asylum that all the crazies get a seat at the head table. Do you really want Elizebeth Warren, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez and ilahn Omar running the US government."
No, notdonhunting, I do not. What I do want is a Republican candidate with integrity, that understands that government requires compromise when a nation is split 50/50, otherwise we are cast into a situation where we swing like a pendulum from one extreme to the next. As I see it, Republicans stand a fair chance of losing both the Presidency and the Senate. I have always voted Republican, and am more or less satisfied with the way this nation has been run for the past half-century. I own and use firearms, my kids are well-educated and safe, I earn enough money to buy what I need as well as a vacation now and then, and no one tells me who I must or must not serve. In comparing my situation and that of my neighbors with those I see in other countries, I realize that I am very fortunate. If you cannot make it in the US, then you cannot make it anywhere. I do not see the need to pull the system apart, and I have not seen a similar degree of success in any nation where the population is split ideologically. Not in Iraq, Israel, Serbia...
Are you watching whose currently pulling the system apart? Nearly every Democrat run city and state is in shambles! Have you seen what's happened in Minneapolis the past couple weeks?
Bullskin you need to wake up. What;s going on right before your eyes is the destruction of your country. You can stop the morality crap because frankly look at what's gone on against the man, and your fellow countrymen. You think those actions are moral and righteous? I've seen a lot more than you have and I'm telling you your country is under attack from within. You either purge the threat or live with your foolish decision.
When educated Black men with PHD's are calling it an insurrection it should tip you off. They've seen it lived it and endured it every single day of their lives and they're saying it's wrong. I'm a really old guy and made some of the most deadly weapons on earth for the military in my lifetime and been around the world several times and been to many nations at war. I've seen socialism, communism, and totalitarianism up close and every other form of governance on earth.
What you have is the best, but you have to vote to keep it. Like Ben Franklin said "it's a republic if you can keep it". Well guess what your test is going on right before your eyes are you up to keeping the republic? You're at war and if you think they give a damn about your morality or your virtue you'd be mistaken. They'll lie to you and snatch your country right out from under you if given the chance just like they did many in Europe, It's time to face reality, this is one election you have to play to win not punt.
Bullskin
I appreciate your point of view.
Trump was not the candidate that I wanted out of the Republican candidate's. But now I am thankful he was the one to survive. I truly believe he is the only Republican candidate out of the 2016 field that could have held up to the toxic atmosphere that has been created by the media and the many idealistic self center organizations. It took a man that had Trumps personality and self arrogance to say FU.
Just look at what they did to Drew Breez and make him beg for there forgiveness and confess to the world he is an terrible person because he is white.
What had taken place over the last two weeks I do beleve if Obama, Hillary or Biden was in office this country might have burned to the ground.
Like most on this site I am a middle class white man that works hard to earn a living and I volunteer many hours a week in helping out my small community. I try to be a good honest God fearing man and try to be honest and helpful with my neighbors and others that i deal with throughout my days and it does not matter race, creed or gender. I vote for the best candidate that I believe will best represent my values and/or protect my values.
Some do a fare job others are just con artists. Trump is not a guy I would want to break bread with but he would be fun to share a six pack with (Dr Peper) but Trump has done a better job than I expected.
Who do you suppose we vote for than?? The 2 choices are Trump or Biden, I’ll take Trump any day of the week over a socialist liberal democrat!!!I am disgusted with both parties. Nothing in my comments should be construed to support the actions of either. Leaders on both sides lie as a matter of habit, and if we are ever going to change this we cannot simply roll over and accept whomever the party gives us.
Who do you suppose we vote for than?? The 2 choices are Trump or Biden, I’ll take Trump any day of the week over a socialist liberal democrat!!!
Trump is like the crazy uncle who you invite over for Thanksgiving - and he over stays his welcome....
Don’t take a few members on this boards’ word for it... listen to Colin Powell, James Mattis, John Kelly......
Ouch. You gunna let him get away with that?You're too far gone to notice,,,,,,,,,,,,LOL
Damn Homer i thought you lived in Utah!!
Bullskin the fact you're having a tough time deciding who you're going to vote for is interesting. Don't throw your vote away!
Do you understand what globalism is? Do you understand being governed by a new world order is?
This should be the easiest choice any American has faced in an election in the modern era. Yes it's that simple and cut and dried.
How can you vote for the party that lied to you over the last three years ans sit there and complain about Trump? Do you really understand what these guys tried to do to our country?
Why is one party paying folks to riot and destroy this country behind your back and lying to you about it?
You think those riots are spontaneous?
Who's paying those guys to do it and paid to get many of them to the riot sites?
Were you indoctrinated in school when you were growing up? If not then you're either blind or not to aware of what's being done.
Do you want your kids being governed by the leaders we elect in this country rather than some guy from another country that won't care about their constitutional rights or our laws?
Obama and Clinton and the dems were going to transform this country and rake us to a new world order.
Do you think AOC represents the kind of values you want? She's an admitted socialist......think about that.
Hunting addict if you're not a member of the elites do you understand what going to a New World order means. Are you ignorant enough to actually think being governed by a new world order that will most likely be socialist isn't going to result in change. Didn't Obama campaign on hope and change? Didn't he stand up there and ask are you ready to transform your country? Look at how the UN votes against us even when Obama was President. Do you think being led by those folks will protect your future?
Yes some of us crazy old guys are better educated and have seen exactly what socialism is and how it effects peoples lives. It might be time for you to actually open yours and do some research on socialism to see what it holds for you and what it does for your right's.
America won't be the same in ANY new world order mark my words. The fact you're foolish enough to believe the guys backing the party that just tried to overthrow a sitting president and doing everything within their power to hide it from you should be proof. Everything they accused him of they couldn't prove, plus look at all the high level firings and resignations in the FBI, DOJ and other federal agencies........if they hadn't done anything wrong they's still be working...........but aren't.... WHY?
The IG report confirmed 100% they committed fraud to launch an ILLEGAL investigation against the highest elective office in the land.......and You think Trumps a bad guy and a bigger threat.........here's your sign!!!
I am as concerned about tribalism within the United States as I am about globalism without.
Anyone who cannot admit that BOTH parties have lied throughout this recent ordeal is deluding themselves. So, in response to your question "How can you vote for the party that lied...", I would say that I cannot--for either--and wish more people felt the same way about it. Only then will the lies stop.
To say that one party is paying folks to riot is like saying the other is encouraging folks to spread covid. It is a stretch to pretend that protests are riots (although they may devolve into this) just as it is a stretch to suggest that Trump's efforts to renew rallies/conventions is actually an effort to spread disease (although it is entirely predictable that it will occur).
There is no question that AOC does not represent my values, but neither does Steven King. More to the point, neither does Donald Trump, whom I judge by his actions rather than his words. Both parties' primary tactic appears to be to frighten people away from the other. Fine. I agree that they both suck, and since that is the case, then why should I support either?
Put yourself back a few years. If a school-yard bully came to you and explained that he would either strike you a blow to the head or a kick to the shin, your choice, would you give either of these two options your support? Or, would you tell him to F--- Off and give it his best shot? And, when it was over, would you believe his toadies that suggested you brought it on yourself?
For me, the most compelling judgements comes from Mattis, McRaven, Kelly and Allen. When these men suggest that Trump is unfit to serve, I listen. Better than anyone else, these men understand America's role in the world and what it takes to keep us safe and strong. They are not advocates for any New World Order. What, by comparison, has Donald Trump done to acquire, let alone demonstrate, any such understanding? He sidestepped, if not dodged, military service; he gives lip-service to Christianity yet exhibits no signs of fidelity to God, and he not only lacks the information and discipline necessary to function on the world stage, but seems incapable of recruiting qualified help to guide him where he needs it. Where is the strength in a man that must push his way past the Prime Minister of Montenegro in order to place himself in the center of a photo-op?
Well, I guess there is one other option. You could support the WHO and the CDC or join Antifa and destroy the country from within. The Democrats would like that though as they sure don't seem to be against them.He became president. Let that sink in for a few minutes. That is a task not many mortals can do given the fact that that entire media is against him.
I don't understand the fascination of hating Trump. I mean throughout the years everyone is saying we need change and here comes Trump making huge changes and folks don't like it.
Seriously, if you are hoping to find this "perfect" person to be president you'll be waiting for a LONG time. There is no perfect candidate to satisfy all. Pipe dream man.
So make your list of pros/cons with Trump and Biden. Vote for one. Or don't vote and STHU.
I am as concerned about tribalism within the United States as I am about globalism without.
Anyone who cannot admit that BOTH parties have lied throughout this recent ordeal is deluding themselves. So, in response to your question "How can you vote for the party that lied...", I would say that I cannot--for either--and wish more people felt the same way about it. Only then will the lies stop.
To say that one party is paying folks to riot is like saying the other is encouraging folks to spread covid. It is a stretch to pretend that protests are riots (although they may devolve into this) just as it is a stretch to suggest that Trump's efforts to renew rallies/conventions is actually an effort to spread disease (although it is entirely predictable that it will occur).
There is no question that AOC does not represent my values, but neither does Steven King. More to the point, neither does Donald Trump, whom I judge by his actions rather than his words. Both parties' primary tactic appears to be to frighten people away from the other. Fine. I agree that they both suck, and since that is the case, then why should I support either?
Put yourself back a few years. If a school-yard bully came to you and explained that he would either strike you a blow to the head or a kick to the shin, your choice, would you give either of these two options your support? Or, would you tell him to F--- Off and give it his best shot? And, when it was over, would you believe his toadies that suggested you brought it on yourself?
For me, the most compelling judgements comes from Mattis, McRaven, Kelly and Allen. When these men suggest that Trump is unfit to serve, I listen. Better than anyone else, these men understand America's role in the world and what it takes to keep us safe and strong. They are not advocates for any New World Order. What, by comparison, has Donald Trump done to acquire, let alone demonstrate, any such understanding? He sidestepped, if not dodged, military service; he gives lip-service to Christianity yet exhibits no signs of fidelity to God, and he not only lacks the information and discipline necessary to function on the world stage, but seems incapable of recruiting qualified help to guide him where he needs it. Where is the strength in a man that must push his way past the Prime Minister of Montenegro in order to place himself in the center of a photo-op?
He's fired 2 of em and the third is a lifelong democrat. What would you expect them to say?
You ever stop to think why they and many others are getting fired or are resigning?
Maybe because they no longer want to kiss his ar$$ and/or they are seeing he has no soul .... Trump is a great mob boss who gets rid of those who do not follow him or who do not agree with him... He listens to no one and he believes he is always the smartest person in the room. Person/s of high military rank are "Apolitical" so it's very uncommon for them to speak out regarding this subject matter - I will listen to what they say about Mr. Bone Spurs himself.
How did I get dragged into this? If I am not allowed to vote my conscience and must obey the party choices, how free am I? I prefer to be free to vote for whom I think is best not just rubber stamp a party's pick. You can continue to thump your chest because look where it got it us.When The far left wins the 2020 election we can all suffer together under a fully socialist government......but bullskin, nemont and offtrail can puff their chests out because they took the moral high road.....
It’ll be great
He became president. Let that sink in for a few minutes. That is a task not many mortals can do given the fact that that entire media is against him.
I don't understand the fascination of hating Trump. I mean throughout the years everyone is saying we need change and here comes Trump making huge changes and folks don't like it.
Seriously, if you are hoping to find this "perfect" person to be president you'll be waiting for a LONG time. There is no perfect candidate to satisfy all. Pipe dream man.
So make your list of pros/cons with Trump and Biden. Vote for one. Or don't vote and STHU.
When The far left wins the 2020 election we can all suffer together under a fully socialist government......but bullskin, nemont and offtrail can puff their chests out because they took the moral high road.....
It’ll be great
Funny how you left out the part about the entire media being against Trump. If the entire media was against Biden, then yes there will be no complaints from me.
You need some mad skills as a republican to win a presidency. I don't need to tell you that. That should be common sense to those who are paying attention.
You seriously need to pick your side and stay strong and give 100% support behind him. Nitpicking is so unproductive.
just curious....did you vote for Trump in 2016??
Or if you don't want to answer Homer's question...
Can you answer this one?
Did you vote for Hillary in 2016?
No. Way. In. Hell.
Bull skin, I understand that you want a candidate that you can support & that is fine, but the bottom line is you have 2 choices! 1 candidate will preserve our way of life as we know it. 1 candidate will fundamentally change the way of life as we know. You have to pick one or the other or simply don’t vote. If you vote for someone other than Trump or Biden on the ballot than your vote is wasted. All politicians lie & they are a joke. Like or dislike Trump, but the man has a spine & he will do more for our country than the socialist liberal democrats. You will never find a perfect candidate ever!!!. If you don’t vote for either than don’t whine about the outcome & possibly losing your freedoms! It’s your choice so choose wisely.
Again, that is like arguing that I asked for a blow to the head because I refused to accept a kick to the shin.Actually as a Republican, he voted for Hillary by voting for kasich.
Bull skin, I understand that you want a candidate that you can support & that is fine, but the bottom line is you have 2 choices! 1 candidate will preserve our way of life as we know it. 1 candidate will fundamentally change the way of life as we know. You have to pick one or the other or simply don’t vote. If you vote for someone other than Trump or Biden on the ballot than your vote is wasted. All politicians lie & they are a joke. Like or dislike Trump, but the man has a spine & he will do more for our country than the socialist liberal democrats. You will never find a perfect candidate ever!!!. If you don’t vote for either than don’t whine about the outcome & possibly losing your freedoms! It’s your choice so choose wisely.
I see what you're saying. I hope a lot of Democrats in battleground states see it that way in November too.That actually is incorrect in presidential elections because of the Electoral College. There is no such thing as a "wasted vote" unless we were directly electing candidates based on the popular vote. If I write in a candidate it has the same affect for both candidates of the two main parties, neither gets a vote.
Can you find anywhere the Founder's of this country believe, supported or enshrined a system where we only have two choices on who to vote for? I have looked and can't find it. Maybe you can show me where this is.
Only the parties are telling you what the choices are and if you have to agree that there are only two choices then you are not very free to pick your leaders, they are picked for you.
Nemont
Must have been one hell of a train they ran on each other, I’ll bet Monica was happy to be uninvited ??Either way you swing...right,... left,... or in between,....its pretty funny. The most heavily armed man in the world runs to his bunker cuz some limp wrist liberals(as some would call it) show up to have a talk.....I would think if he had half a nut he would have went outside and shown himself as a true AMERICAN leader.....and when he returned from the bunker ...he said..." I was inspecting it"....View attachment 8262 Laughable....View attachment 8262
Yimmy is the reason I have voted against democrats my whole life. The Carter years were terrible. Carter is the reason you can't get an assumable mortgage anymore. I also hold him responsible for the Chrysler "K car". I couldn't wait to pull the lever for President Reagan.Bullskin one of the most honest presidents I can recall in my lifetime was Jimmy Carter. Due to his strong belief in his religion, he was far more honest then presidents before and after him.
He was honest, but he was also a poor president on many policies.
RELH
Ummm, FHA loans are assumable. They account for over 12% of loans today.Carter is the reason you can't get an assumable mortgage anymore.
If the far left wins, it won't be because I did not agree to the kick to the shin. And I will have little sympathy for those who cry about receiving the blow to the head when that was the only option they left us. If you don't agree that we have only bad choices at this time, fine, perhaps your guy will win. But don't whine if he does not--you will have taken your best shot. But it is my opinion that it was a very risky shot to take, and that Republicans might have done better with a candidate that appeals also to centrists.