Colville - you touched on another subject, and that is "trophy" hunting. I dont go to Colorado "trophy" hunting, many people don't, but I pay the same price tag as guys drawing 14 PP units. I HATE the concept of trophy hunting anyway though
" If a state does nothing to disincentivize NR's from hunting and offeers CO's quality, there'll be no where a guy can find a good experience in a non LE unit. "
Good gawd, I've had amazing experiences in non LE units. OTC, public, well known areas. I've even killed animals in there on top of my fantastic hunting trip ! I 100% disagree that the hunting experience is tied directly to the big antlers that can be killed. Thats not what hunting is
Again, your States G&F gets a very large portion of its revenue from non-res license. You can say all day long that residents can flip the bill for it if need be - but at the end of the day, they don't and never have
Ropinfool - LOL I mean seriously, tell me what state you live in and how much of that G&F revenue is from non-res license. Then tell me the local economies in the big units that get a lot of non-res hunters, and how much impact that out of state money has. Now ....... remove all that money. Think long and hard, do some research, I think your eyes will open a bit to just how much money we're talking about here
sremim - your'e from Colorado ? Lets use that state for an example then
�� Non-resident hunters and anglers spent more money per day, on average, than residents did. For example, non-resident big game hunters spent an estimated $300 per day, while resident big game hunters spent about $35.
�� Non-resident hunters and anglers contributed $332 million, or 42 percent, of the statewide trip and equipment expenditures.
........... the secondary impact of the dollars that are re-spent within the economy. The secondary economic impact of hunting and fishing dollars during 2002 is estimated at $660 million, yielding a total estimated impact of just over $1.5 billion. This level of activity supports an estimated 20,000 full-time jobs in Colorado.
www.cde.state.co.us/artemis/nr6/nr62f522004internet.pdf
Its not hard to find facts and stats on the economic impacts of hunting and fishing. Why ? Because its huge, its a large portion of tourism for many states.
" Why does one public golf course charge more than another? Why does the water park in my city charge non-city residents more than city residents? "
I'd say the reasons are because taxations pay for the above activities. You, as a resident, do not pay more for wildlife than I do, do you ? Through the Robertson/Pittman act and other ways do G&F and wildlife raise money. The "public" doesn't pay for wildlife, does it ? License sales are a large part of a G&F budget, right ? And non-residents are the ones that pay the largest portion of those revenues.
Thats not a blanket statement, every state is different and I could be wrong, we're talking very general stuff here
" All States charge non-residents more than residents to hunt or fish. Good luck trying to change that. "
No one has yet to say they want to make it same price, have they ? But $35 compared to $550 ? C'mon ....... thats ridiculous, and so is the stupid WY laws on requiring outfitters on public land. That one really gets me !
gleninaz - your big game and fishing were made by my non-resident money. Like it or not, thank a non-resident for that.
The economic impact of non-resident hunters in AZ in 2001 ? 300 million in retail sales, 561 million in multiplier effect, 136 million in salaires and wages ....... thats according to
www.ohec.org/PDFs/Hunting Economic Impact.pdf
Boskee - " Brad it's time you become a man of conviction! Please exercise it and boycott us that'll show us I'm sure "
actually I've never hunted AZ. But I gaurantee you AZ does NOT want non-residents to quit coming, and they don't want the missed money, regardless of how you might feel personally
idabigbuck - wow, you moved your family so you could hunt ? I wouldn't move my kids from their schools, away from their family and friends just so I could hunt. I wouldn't do that to them.
gleninaz - " Both of you homos are welcome here if you get drawn and if you will PM me I will do what I can to help you on your hunts. We like flatlander money here. "
ahhhhhhhhh we've come down to calling people "homos" ...... brilliant
Elk375 - do non-residents pay more for lift tickets ? I can't remember .......