>I am in favor of the
>small units, I completely understand
>the point a view with
>the micro-management... But at the
>same time, that is what
>Utah has done with the
>elk herds, we have arguably
>the best elk hunting anywhere..
>
>
We cant hunt our elk they most are managed like the Henry mountains. I dont want to hunt spike elk any more then I want to hunt spike deer. I also dont want to wait once in my life to do it. Utahs elk hunting for the ones that do get a chance is great. It sucks for 90% that dont.
>I also understand the argument that
>we only get to hunt
>elk every 10-14 years... which
>does suck...
have you ever looked at the butt plug we have now in our system? It is not a guraranteed 10 year draw any more. In fact there are several units if you are the last one in your point group you may not ever draw with the current system.
but the sheer
>total numbers of deer in
>the state, the smaller units
>would be more like colorado
>and wyoming where the best
>units would take 4-6 years
>to draw, but would also
>allow over the counter tags
>left...
Once again this is incorrect. The best deer units in this state will never have a 4 year wait. They don't in Colorado or Wyoming either.
spin is spin and the micro plan is BS for the average hunter. It is great if you are an out of state hunter. It is great if you can afford loads of application fees in other states. It is great if you can purchase an SFW auction tag.
It sucks if you cant afford to hunt out of state. It sucks if you have kids and want to teach them about hunting. Try telling them they might hunt once in 10 years and you can see the hunting light get turned off. It sucks if you cant pay for the application fees. It sucks if you like to just hunt with the family. It sucks if you cant afford an auction tag.
There are ways of fixing the system but this is the last ditch effort not the first.
Also can you see a trend in what SFW is doing to this state? They are making it once in a life time everything. The cougar plan they just did sucks if your a die hard lion hunter. You used to just be able to hunt them over the counter and now you cant. If your a Die hard lion hunter you now have to go out after the wanabess. The wanabees like my self that dont have dogs. This does what makes it good for the guides not the average guy.
SFW did it to our elk. Once in a life time elk. Need a guide or a posse to actually feel like you did good cause you aint getting to do it again. Then when you do get a great looking 330-340 bull and tell anyone the score they look at you like you just farted in church.
SFW now wants to take our deer tags and turn deer hunting into the same thing as our elk hunting. ONCE IN A LIFE TIME! Why would they do this under the disguise of better hunting? It pays good to be an SFW employee $$$. Its a guaranteed raise With more LE tags to grab. They are laughing all the way to the bank at our expense!
There are no big bucks in Utah! LOL