Dedicated hunter ?

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huntindudley

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Just wondering how many of you Utah dedicated hunters out there are happy with the program? This will be my second year and I don't know if I'll do it again after my third year is over. Just wondreing if I'm the only one.
 
I'm going into my third year and I'm thinking it might be the last. It was so frustrating last year trying to complete my service hours that I lost my taste for it. I don't even hunt all three seasons anyway. I just wanted to help do my part. I've decided that if nobody wants my help then I'll find another way to contribute.
 
When it comes to the projects, I do think it could be alot better. Having to do both your 2nd and 3rd years of hours during your 2nd year when you never filled your tag the 1st year is really stupid because of coarse your going to hunt that third year and do the hours for it anyway and I've heard the southern region has had to make up stupid waste of time projects to fill peoples hours. I do like knowing I have a guaranteed tag each year and deciding which hunt I'll spend the most time on when it gets closer to the hunt.
 
I'm a non-resident and was going to put in for it, but the fees were way to high. More than three times the cost if I was to draw each year, but the good part was, I could hunt all three weapon seasons. This I would do me just right. I could get out more than I do now. I believe it would be worth it. My 2 cents.
 
Im on my third go round with the dedicated hunter program, and I love it....You get to hunt all three seasons,and you get to choose your region. Its not expensive, and as far as the hours go, if you plan ahead you can do some pretty cool things.
 
I do enjoy being able to hunt all three seasons, and I joined because I wanted to get more envolved. I think the whole idea of this is program is great. The main problem I have trying to get service hours is like pulling teeth. I've gone in to the DWR and ask about it and there's only one person in the office who knows anything about it and of course he's never there, and when you do get ahold of him he acts like your a big pain in his side and wants you to go away. Mahew04 you must be in a differant area. I stated asking for projects in february and still am waiting.
 
I like the program. After my first time through it, I took a year off and just bought a rifle tag. I missed the muzz hunt like crazy, so I am back in. In the Northern Region it sure seems easier to find projects than what you guys are describing. I like to try to knock them all out in one summer, then I don't have to worry about it. I wish that there was something similar for elk.
Dax
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-18-06 AT 09:31PM (MST)[p]This is my seventh year. Which means it's my first of another three years. I would say its worth it. Many people don't think so, and thats fine with me. If it was worth it to everyone I wouldn't want to picture how bad the crowding on the mountian would be, as a matter of fact because of the program hunting has been alot more crowded. I know this sounds selfish and kind of stupid. You can look at it either way. And best Of all I get more chances at the Big One. Yes I know thats another reason why not to like dedicated hunters. But I only have a chance to Bag two bucks in three years instead of three like everyone else. But honestly, bieng a dedicated hunter isn't just about getting to hunt all three deer hunts its help the DWR and other agencies with alot af tasks that they can't afford. And that isn't a problem in my book.
I also enjoy hunting all three hunts, most people that don't think its worth it to be a dedicated hunter only hunt two.

Mahew04 I'm with you I Have trapped turkeys on the boulder, Electroshocked Fish on the provo, It's been a blast.
 
What areas are you guys in? I am in the northeastern. Don't get me wrong here I do think the dedicated hunter program is a great thing, and I'm sure I'll continue to do it. I don't mind getting out and working; in fact I'd like to. I know that they have projects listed on their site, but when I've gone to get the info they have told me that some one else is working on that one,(they have told me that for six months) or that you have to be a carpenter, or a taxidermist... gets a little frusterating. I don't mean to complain I just wondered if any one else was going through the same thing.
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-22-06 AT 01:44PM (MST)[p]I hunt se utah, email me if you need projects. [email protected]
This year a bunch of us put together the ice fishing platform at the hunting expo. There were a lot of dedicated hunters who would help the kids fish. I did fishing surveys on free fishing day, you should have seen the people run when they thought you were fish and game it was kind of comical..Call the Salt Lake office, check out the rack meetings, its not hard. They had dedicated hunters help trap sheep on Antelope Island, all these would be easy fun projects to do. If it ends up being that big of a pain dont do it...

"Its easy to complain, and hard to compliment"
 
This is my dads and my first year in the program, we are excited to be able to go out all three seasons. I won't have to feel rushed into a one week hunt. The service hours have been enjoyable and not hard at all.
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Jared
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This is my 9th year in the program and I'll be starting over again next year. I'm in the Southern Region and there are plenty of projects each year. Since last year was my second year in the program (3rd time around) I had to complete two projects and I ended up re-scheduling about 15 different times--so I know there are plenty of projects--atleast in this area.
 
This will be my last year in the program. There is not enough goods versus bads for me anyways with this program.

The only good thing for me with it is that you can hunt all three seasons. But with hunting out of state now, and helping others with there hunts that doesn't even matter to me anymore.

My biggest gripe with the program is the service hour projects. When I enrolled in the program, the division painted a picture in my head that I have not seen that much of. Telling me that the services would help benefit wildlife and such.

I only done one project out of three that actually had any thing to do with wildlife, and that was handing out pamphlets at Strawberry about the special regulations that were in place for fishing. I stood at the Soldier Creek boat ramp for six hours and handed out these things and bs'd with fisherman about how they did and talked boats with em.The hardest part about it was watching all the fisherman go have there fun when all I could do is stand there on the ramp wishing I could join them.Have boat, will fish!

My second project was blocking 4x4, atv, jeep trails above Union City. The game and fish guy was over an hour late meeting us at our starting point for direction. When he arrived he tried to explain that something came up and he wouldn't be much of any help to us? How wonderful? Oh, he also forgot to hook the trailer with posts before he came up. So we waited another fortyfive minutes for him to get the materials we needed.
But hey, he showed up just before lunch in town that was provided by the mayor of Union. Nice! Just in time for weiners on the bbq.

He explained that we was going to be helping the deer out by keeping out the weekend warriors having a little fun on the weekends. After overhearing a conversation with the mayor and a local of Union City, the truth came out. The mayor was full of happiness because some homeowners would now be getting off his back with the complaints of atv'ers and jeepers above there houses having a little fun that they did not want.

So we basically blocked access to what I believe was public property because the mayor and some people wanted the riding area shut down. Just like the B area in Bountiful. We was pissed and I didn't even want to finish the day. When we was done and our cards were signed the game and fish guy had the nuts to ask us if we wanted to come back next weekend for another closure of access to "help the deer"? We laughed and peeled out. The whole thing was a joke.

My fianl project was cleaning tool sheds at the Lee Kay Center. Oh my hell, I really contributed something to wildlife there. What a @*#&@!# joke! It was coming down to crunch time so I just did it and gritted my teeth. One of the guys with me said that he was cleaning the bathrooms the weekend before! I just stood in awe when he told me that.

I probably looked for 2-2 1/2 months online and makeing calls looking for good projects, and this is all I could muster? Give me a break. All of the good or "beneficial" projects seemed to be during the week or was already filled or was a few hours away and the division wouldn't compensate my travel time. Sorry, but with the gas prices last summer, I couldn't justify it.

One of the projects I called on was to clear weeds and brush on a ranch in Vernon. The desciption played out again that the herd would benefit by this. Sure, ok. To me it seemed that a rancher was going to be getting a few "good hands" for free to help with the chores? So, I called to talk to Mr. BLah about the job and his lovely wife answers and basically said he was busy on the ranch and that she could answer any question I had. I nicely explained that the Division gave me his contact info and that I was suppose to talk to him. She then told me that she has been on that ranch for years and knows everything about it and that I was a "rude ass" for thinking other wise, and that I was a "jerk" because I thought she couldn't help me just because she was a women and hung up on me. I was then ready to get in the pickup and head out to Vernon to b-slap some ranch lady. But I regained my composure and called her back being nice about it expalained to her how I felt how she treated somebody that just wanted to be in contact with her husband for direction so she and "the ranch" could benefit from my grunt work. We then shared some colorful language with one another and ended the conversation with love. Ya, I'm laying on the sarcasm pretty thick. But before I hung up, I was sure to explain to her that I would be in contact with the Division and hopefully have her "precious ranch" removed from the project list. I explained what happened to the Program person at the main office and I was basically blown off. Wow, thanks to the division for standing for the hunter that was trying to help a rancher clean up his place that got treated like dog$hit!

So there you have it. There is my 48 cents worth. There just isn't enough valuable projects out there for the dedicated hunter. Too many of us with to little beneficial projects as far as I can see.

But hey, if you don't want to mow some lawns, paint a building or clean up some private property for a rancher you can always pull out some benjamins and pay your way even more for two tags in three years. As if $180 wasn't enough for two tags? Again don't get me wrong. I was a sucker to hunt all three seasons. But after all the bs I went through, I think I will just stick with a muzzy tag for my gaurantee tag area and smoke em just the same. Maybe I can get lucky and get three in row? You never know.
 
I just rejoined this year for the 7th year of being in the program. I love being able to hunt all three seasons. I have only killed two deer in the six years I have been in the program but I love the extra oppertunity. In the years I have been in the program I have never experinced the problems with project some of you have. I have done everything from Grouse counts, helping kids fish, winter range reseeding, to data entry. I try to get all my hours in the first year so it is out of the way. One trick is to wait for projects in the fall when there isn't thousands of other Dedicated Hunters looking for hours befor hunting season. I just looked at the DWR's DH page and there are many projets in every region.

Mark
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-25-06 AT 03:18PM (MST)[p]Hey penguin we should give you your hours just for the post....
 

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