The Biggest Loser - Fraud and Deception

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LAST EDITED ON Nov-21-09 AT 12:06PM (MST)[p]
I recently started a thread I titled "The Biggest Loser" and shortly afterward the post disappeared. It was taken down at my request, as a Game Warden asked me to remove it until they could finish their investigation of the individual the post referred to. I've now been notified that they've wrapped up their case and the fellow will have his day in court.

Some of you will remember a "hunter" by the name of Coleman Houston. He goes by Colehous on some websites. Anyway, he posted pictures of some very large bucks that he claimed he killed in the western end of California's D5 zone, which is mostly blacktail deer country. The deer in this region weigh from 100-150 pounds and sport antlers that are generally classic blacktail type antlers, with any buck scoring over 130 being a really nice deer. So, along comes this fellow and he posts photos of himself with two sets of antlers, claiming that he shot both of these bucks 90 minutes apart on October 30th with a bow...which is 2 days prior to the end of our rifle season. To lend some perspecitve, one set of antlers is 30 1/2" wide and scored 195, while the other is a 34" non-typical. We hunt the same country where he claimed to kill these bucks, so something didn't seem right. We got to doing some internet searching and found his deer antlers. The only problem was, they weren't being held by Coleman Houston, but by a pretty lady in a pink top....on ebay! Here are the ebay auction item numbers, 230389968437 and 230389970226. These deer were purchased for $500.00 and $300.01, shipped to him and then he claimed to have killed them with his bow. Here are links to two of the websites where he posted tales of his success.

Perhaps the most ludicrous post I saw this guy ever make about these two deer was "I couldn't decide which one to shoot, so I shot both of them." Yeah, right; and I'm Bill Gates.

http://www.muleymadness.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9567

http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums...-195-30-1-2-wide-34-1-2-wide-non-typical.html

This guy has had articles published in Muley Crazy, California Game and Fish, and perhaps other magazines of which I'm not aware. He somehow pulled the wool over their eyes, as well as California Bowmen Hunters (state record keeping organizaiton) and Pope & Young. At this point, I'm pretty sure that Fish and Game has concluded their investigation and charged him with whatever crimes they found, so in the interest of hunters policing our own ranks, I thought I should post "The Rest of the Story" for everyone to know.

Please, take a look at those two ebay auction items. It's easy, just go to ebay and type those numbers into search, search sporting goods, and you'll see an attractive chick holding the antlers. Then, go to those two other websites and see Coleman Houston holding those same sets of antlers and read his tale of adventure about how he killed these monster bucks at the end of rifle season with his bow. To give you some perspective, the 2007 and 2008 bucks he had published in Muley Crazy are listed at the top of California's bowhunting record books, and this year's deer would have displaced those. Doesn't that seem like an amazing run of luck for one hunter in three years? From a unit were a 130 class buck is a BIG deer? And just think, he did it all with a bow at the end of rifle season! WOW!!!

And now, you realize why I titled this post "The Biggest Loser." This fellow is exactly that in my eyes. He's a disgrace to legal and ethical hunters everywhere, but at least his scam has been discovered.
 
Unbelievable! It shows you the lengths that some people will go to in order to get notoriety. He definitely asked to get busted by making such outlandish stories.
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-21-09 AT 02:45PM (MST)[p]



Here are pics of the Guy with his Ebay antlers that he claimed he killed. He has posted all over the web claiming he killed these bucks and he cant post any field pics until they are published in some magazine. He posted some BS story about how he killed them both the same day and only 1.5 hours apart.

I love how he put painters tape over the skull plate to try to hide the fact the racks were old. He also had to stain the antlers as they were faded.

This is what he tried telling everyone

[/b]by ColeHous ? Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:50 pm

Finally after a slow season i got a glimpse of what i was looking for. Tuesday i spotted a 5x5 with nice eye guards he is around 30" wide and will definately hit the 190 mark. He was with a freak non typical that was a 7x7 with tons of palmation and kickers on both sides. I'm guessing he is around 34" wide from kicker to kicker. I'm headed out tomorrow eve to see if i can smack one with a arrow. gotta love the "deer city usa" type of bucks. only one weekend left so i'm crossing my fingers.



What he really meant to say is

by ColeHous ? Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:50 pm

Finally after a slow season I was browsing Ebay for antlers as I am a lazy slob who lies and will do anything to be seen as a ultimate Mule deer hunter and I found what I was looking for. Tuesday I spotted a 5x5 with nice eye guards he is around 30" wide and will definately hit the 190 mark for only $500.00. He was for sale with a freak non typical that was a 7x7 with tons of palmation and kickers on both sides for $300.00. I'm guessing he is around 34" wide from kicker to kicker but the listing claims he is 35 wide. I'm headed out tomorrow eve to see if i can get everything I need to pull this lie off. Gotta love the "deer antlers on Ebay" type of bucks. only a few days left on the auction so i'm crossing my fingers. Wow I am such a good liar and will fool everyone once again.[/b]

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LAST EDITED ON Nov-21-09 AT 01:07PM (MST)[p]Ok, the guy is a loser and DBag. It is sad what people will do for 15 minutes of fame. However, at first blush, what did he do that was criminal in nature. I may have missed it but it doesn't seem criminal in terms of wildlife law.

That said I'm glad you helped expose the phony.
 
I'm glad someone caught this nitwit but what's illegal? If lying is truly illegal, we'll have to shoot almost everyone in DC.

Seriously, I think the emphasis on trophy size, stories, accompanying money, articles and so forth will be the end of hunting as we have known it, which I think is a tragedy. People doing what this guy did is symptomatic.

He must have done something (more than explained) for which Fish & Game is after him. Can we be told?


Within the shadows, go quietly.
 
I like how he got in his camo for the photo shoot and the painters tape is priceless! What people will do for fame!

All I can say is DBAG!!!!!
 
WOW - sad sad sad sad little man.

And to answe your question NV - with the publication of his stories, he could possibly receive financial renumeration and or sponsorships for them, so if he does attempt to do that, yes it is fraud and could certainly be prosecuted for it.




UTROY
Proverbs 21:19 (why I hunt!)
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-21-09 AT 02:02PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Nov-21-09 AT 01:59?PM (MST)

To answer some of the questions that have been posed, consider the following.

1.) In California, it is illegal to buy or sell wildlife parts from game animals indigenous to California. Mule deer are an indigenous species.

2.) He convinced several record keeping organizations that these were legitimately taken deer, taken by him with a bow and entered into their record listings. UHH, you have to actually LEGALLY kill the animal yourself for it to be eligible for entry.

3.) He decieved several magazines about these deer, and got his stories (Fiction, for sure) published. Muley Crazy and California Game and Fish are two that come to mind.

4.) He was builing an image as a 'super hunter.' A celebrity hunter in the making. He is/was sponsored by numerous hunting equipment companies that put him on their pro staff. The more prominent his image and legend became, the more he could profit from his deception. In California, I believe it is a felony to profit from wildlife crimes, and even though his buying of indigenous game may only be a misdemeanor, trying to profit from it may cause it be be elevated to a felony. I could be wrong on this, but am pretty sure that is how our state's laws work.

5.) Knowing how California works, some companies that assisted him, like whoever validated his deer tags and mounted his deer, may also be drawing Fish and Game's interest. I wouldn't be surprised if they turn their attention in those directions.

My understanding is that Fish and Game has concluded their investigation and will be issuing a press release, probably in two weeks as it appears their public informatin officer is on vacation. I'll definitely post up that press release when it comes out.
 
sounds like a d-bag to me....funny when you go to muley crazy and his post is blocked.....take a gander at the one about TED NUGENT that cole houston started....it really proves what a A-hole this guy is....I never could get the E-bay pics to come up...so if any body does post it here...
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-21-09 AT 03:01PM (MST)[p]Yeah I remember him trying to say ted Nugent is a poacher and some other crap. I guess people who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

THE LORD IS MY ROCK
Colorado, U.S.A
NRA LIFE MEMBER
www.ElkHunterSports.com
 
Was not aware California had laws against buying indigenous wildlife parts or the law against profiting from wildlife crimes. Sounds odd to say it but California has a good law. ?!?! :)

Most of the rest sound like civil suits rather than criminal. Doubt if wildlife record keeping orgs or magazines are mentioned in statute.

My point was more that its a shame those things are not criminal but I sure could be wrong. My wife tells me I am most of the time.

Again, glad the DBag was exposed.
 
i saw your thread the other day before you pulled it,,,, as i'm a member of another site that this guy had posted on i wondered if thats who you were talking about and i get ca game and fish and saw the articles,,,, not even sure what to say guess i'll second the what a DB
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-21-09 AT 05:47PM (MST)[p]According to the ebay link he bought them from Elizabeth, Colorado. So maybe the buying/selling California wildlife thing won't stick? Otherwise the seller would be in trouble too, unless I don't understand the law.

No field photos always raises a red flag for me. Kind of like Kirt Darner.

Glad he was exposed.

Eel

Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
 
Eel, I could be wrong (Like NVBighorn, my wife points out my flaws too!) but my understanding of California's law is that it is illegal to buy or sell any wildlife parts from animal species that are indigenous to California. I believe that makes it OK for someone in Colorado to sell this stuff, as long as Colorado law permits it, but it is not OK for someone in California to participate in that kind of activity, at least on mule or blacktail deer, any of the elk, desert sheep or california bighorns, and so on.

Does that make sense?
 
I'm sorry, it was me! Please, Please, Please MM w/peanut gallery forgive me. It's obvious that the guy had some kind of penis envy situation flowing in his brain. I say KOOO KOOO.
 
First off, I don't really know if it's legal to sell antlers or hides of legally harvested game. But I do know they sell antler chandeliers, furniture, carvings, knife handles, jewlery and such in CA. At wildlife fundraisers attended by and supported by DFG (raffle tags) too.... Wonder how that works?

I'm pretty sure you can't sell meat of harvested wild game, bear gall bladders, any protected stuff like ivory....

If DFG was investigating him, I'm sure we will find out:)
 
This guy is most certainly a pig of a fraud and seems that he's now getting at least some of the "exposure" that he deserves.

That said, i'm a little disturbed that apparently, my lifetime collection of hunting trophies and taxidermy is worthless to anyone other than myself. I mistakenly thought that after my passing, my heir, who's not interested in hunting, might then sell off my "accumulation" for a decent little chunk o change.

Are we not allowed to buy a deer cape or say a fish mount either?? This is my property, bought and paid for, some taken in other states, some here in Kali. Seems wrong to me...

That's Kali for you! I keep saying that far too often these days...

Joey
 
CAelknuts, OK I see what you're saying now. That makes sense.

I've actually thought about buying an elk antler to put on our fireplace hearth as a decoration. Sounds like it might be illegal here in CA. Sheesh!

Eel

Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
 
Mr. Coleman Houston has a lot more to worry about than showing back up on a few websites where he has been revealed as a FRAUD.

Mr. Houston, hopefully when you have your day in court you will realize that the things you have done, besides the obvious, are not worth committing FRAUD just to get your name and pictures in some record books and magazines. It is obvious that you have been living a lie for quite some time and your GREED to be recognized has become your downfall.

Mr. Houston it is people like you that give hunting a bad name. You sir, are a disgrace to hunting and the conservation of the animals that we as hunters provide conservation of and strive for. Teddy Roosevelt would turn over in his grave knowing that people do things like this and call themselves hunters of the animals; the same animals he worked so hard to ensure the conservation of, so that future generations may enjoy them as much as he did.



THE LORD IS MY ROCK
Colorado, U.S.A
NRA LIFE MEMBER
www.ElkHunterSports.com
 
Mr. Houston's cost of fame $500 for a 5X5 typical $300 7X7 nontypical on his (mastercard don't know for sure) the stories had they been true price less, but they are not.

Mr. Huston's real cost $800 for a few racks to make lies about. Profit from his lies ? If charges with a felony a good time being the little b!*## of some large inmate and the beating of any hunter in the pen. The fact that he is going to look like a fool in the hunting community for the rest of his life and will not have the respect of any hunter. PRICELESS

What a tool! Can we find a tall tree and a short rope for all of these dink so called hunters? ie guys like this guys the guys taking cameras out of the feild guys sealing mounts ect.
 
The person who brought this travesty to our attention had reported that Mr Huston had been trespassing and hunting on his lease. DFG and the local sheriff had been called and a complaint filed. Both of which are illegal and punnishable by law. The stupidity aspect will be handled by his peers. Wonder if he's reading our posts on the different forums he posted photos on. Dudes balls were bigger than his brain for sure.

sidepass
 
This is great!!! I knew in my bones when I saw the first pics in Ca game and fish somethin was'nt right. If I remember correctly he said in the 08 game and fish article that the 07 and 08 bucks were killed on PUBLIC land LOL. Yeah right.....maybe once in a blue moon, but there aint that much public land at that elevation if any. Good work DAN.

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
 
Even his "story" on both bucks is in the article. What a great hunter.

Here's his new story:

There I was, in front of my Samsung monitor watching as the bids got higher and higher. I waited patiently, quietly, for the perfect opportunity to place my bid, careful to not throw it in there early enough for someone to outbid me but not too late so as to miss the time clock on the auction. Beads of sweat dripped down my forehead as I watched the final few seconds tick down. FINALLY....... the buck of a lifetime was mine. Even though I knew it was a good hit on the auction and the seller seemed legit I spent that entire night dreaming of finally putting my hands on that rack. As the sun came up the next morning I began tracking the buck with the UPS code given to me by the seller. After 3 days of tracking the buck from Colorado to California, I finally had my dream buck. I knew on sight that this buck would be the new California record. Boy, that wasn't too hard, I think I'll get me a new record next year. Thanks to my family for teaching me to hunt smarter not harder.
 
Marley, that might be THE BEST MM POST OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

You almost killed my computer, as I spit soda on it, I was laughing so hard as I read your 'story.'
 
Yes it is.

Do you believe that's a D5 zone deer? He claims to have killed most of these deer very close to where I hunt, and most of the deer are 100-140 pound blacktails.

If you go to his Facebook page, you'll see photos of him with deer he has shot. All of them are typical for the area, small blacktails that don't weigh much over 100 pounds, some of his bucks aren't even that big, and none of them score even 130, but then he claims to have these four monster deer from essentially the same area.

There is no way in hell that buck pictured above looks anything like the kind of bucks that run around our region. Boy, do I ever wish it was true!
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-23-09 AT 07:49AM (MST)[p]
I forgot to add, if you think this guy is pretty clever, consider the following in the top picture that Manny posted.
1.) the deer was clearly shot with an arrow, as you can see the entry wound and see the large opening that goes in different directions from broadhead blades.

2.) It is an early season kill, probably in August when our season opens. Just look at the deer's coat to determine that. It is still in it's summer phase.

3.) Now, not only is that set of antlers way to big for any blacktail around, how does an August or even mid-September (our archery season goes till mid-Sept.) buck have fully polished antlers when every other buck is still in velvet at that time?

PHOTOSHOP!!!!!!!!!
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-23-09 AT 10:55AM (MST)[p]THE HUNTER'S TIPS
Houston is originally from Washington. He has arrowed bucks throughout the Pacific Coast, and has traveled to locations such as Africa where he shot a water buffalo and a hippo. He attributes most of his success to simply spending a lot of time in the field.



When asked about his secrets and tips about bagging huge bucks, he said hunters have to "get off their butts, and out of their vehicles." Big California bucks don't come easy, especially on public lands, he said.



Although scouting cameras have become popular, Houston doesn't use them. He said he relies on the old-fashioned scouting method of getting out in the field and doing legwork.



Houston practices target archery extensively in the off-season, flinging arrows almost daily. His practice has led him to be competent and comfortable out to 50 yards. He has seven fiber-optic sight pins. The farthest is set to 70 yards.



Houston also recommended paper-tuning bows at 40 yards instead of the usual 20 or 30 yards. "All bow-shot arrows oscillate through the air a bit before finally straightening out down range. The longer distance gives the oscillating arrow time to straighten itself out and hit the target square, straight, and true."



When people ask him what his favorite brand of bow is, Houston tells them he doesn't have a preference: "They all shoot as good as you do!"

http://www.californiagameandfish.com/hunting/bowhunting-hunting/CA_0609_02/index.html

That goofy bastard, I couldn't imagine the shame and embarssment he is facing with friends family co workers and such.
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-23-09 AT 03:49PM (MST)[p]"When asked about his secrets and tips about bagging huge bucks, he said hunters have to "get off their butts, and out of their vehicles." Big California bucks don't come easy, especially on public lands, he said."

yet he's managed 2 records in 6 years?

dutch
http://coloradohuntandfish.blogspot.com
 
A poster child for everything wrong with hunting today. I am so sick of score mania I could puke. What happened to the days when a picture or a general description like "big,heavy 4X4 with a 28 inch spread" were all men needed when discussing animals?

This obsession with score #'s is going to be the death of us one day.I'm not kidding.
 
>A poster child for everything wrong
>with hunting today. I am
>so sick of score mania
>I could puke. What happened
>to the days when a
>picture or a general description
>like "big,heavy 4X4 with a
>28 inch spread" were all
>men needed when discussing animals?
>
>
>This obsession with score #'s is
>going to be the death
>of us one day.I'm not
>kidding.
 
Hello, everybody who has wrote in and shown interested in the biggest loser.
My name is Dave and I'm the guy who sold the 2 large mule dear racks on ebay to Coleman Houston (the biggest Loser). He told me he was a taxidermist and wanted these racks really bad for a competion he was in. He waited the 5 days for the auction to end and bid and won. He immediately notified me that he wanted to know when these would ship. He wanted them both mailed together to save money. I had no idea about the laws in california. I sold them to him under good faith.
I have been forced to sell my entire collection of 10 years due to my health. I have Reneal stage 5 Kidney disease and I'm on dialysis 3 times a week. I received a kidney from a friend last year, although due to complications I rejected the kidney and have had multiple surgeries. I'm now waiting for a new kidney and with the help of my wife and friends they have come together to join a patient exchange program with the University of Colorado Hospital. I hope to recieved a new kidney soon some day. I need a perfect match. If anyone is interested and wants more information, please email me.
I'm a young man and have 3 kids and have been selling my entire collection to pay for my hospital bills.
This is frustrating and disgusting to see such a great set of antlers sold to someone who did not appreciate them. He defaced them and has taken the true meaning of what a real hunt is about.
Then he went out and bragged about killing them himself and wanted monetary value and fame!! (That did not get him very far)
That's not all, he asked me for his money back because the DOW confiscated them and he has nothing to show for. WHAT GREED!!!
Hopefully the antlers endup somewhere, where everyone can enjoy seing them for what they are.
I hope things turnout the way they should.
Thanks for all of your support.

Dave
[email protected]
 
HE ASKED FOR HIS MONEY BACK AFTER THEY WERE CONFISCATED,THE GUY IS REALLY AN OVER THE TOP PEICE OF CHIT
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-24-09 AT 02:15PM (MST)[p]Dave, thank you for coming on here and explaining more about this sorry situation. I hate to think that you've been inconvenienced by this, but you obviously have. Your antlers deserve a better display than this fellow would have given them, hopefully fish and game will do something good with them once the trial is over and they no longer need them for evidence.

You and your family will be in my thoughts and prayers this holiday season. I went through a tough health situation with my own father many years ago, and the one thing I truly learned from it was to take comfort and pleasure in each day, as none of us knows what tomorrow may bring. I hope you and your family have a very Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas, despite our condition and this BS that you've been subjected to as a result of this fellow.
 
Wow what the hell did i miss, this is just plain ridiculous.

One things for sure hes better on a computer than out in the field.
 
One thing that really stands out to me is that he is degrading all of the honest and legit hard earned trophys in the record books.

I say lock him up and let bubba have him. When he gets out, he shouldn't be able to hunt.
 
Looking at the picture Manny15 posted, is it me or does that look like a photoshop job. The hair on the head of the buck doesn't match the rest of the fur. Plus, wouldn't that be a world record blacktail?
 
Yeah, nice racks. Too bad your such a f_ _ _ _ ing liar about how you got those racks. My daughter held them up for her boyfriends dad who sold them to you on e-bay from Elizabeth, CO, these deer never set foot in CA!!!! You are a disgrace to the true hunters!! Get a life LOSER!!! If anyone wants the listing numbers to verify the e-bay sale of these racks let me know, we'd be happy to verify this.
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-24-09 AT 06:47PM (MST)[p]Sawtooth here's his explanation on the difference in cape's..

Both the typical and the non-typical were mounted by Wildlife Artistry in West Sacramento. The taxidermist used a winter coat from a different deer and mule deer mold for the shoulder mount. Houston chose the winter coat because the summer coat from his deer was sparse and scraggly.

The story on how he killed both bucks is in this link,,Really cracked me up reading it after i already knew what this goober had done..
http://www.californiagameandfish.com/hunting/bowhunting-hunting/CA_0609_02/index.html

Here's a little tase of the story.

Houston immediately sprang into predator mode and the first thing he noticed was that the wind was perfect -- directly in his face. It was now a waiting game. The flat before him was sparsely vegetated with a few blue oaks and offered little concealment. The 3-foot-tall dead star thistle and wild barley grass mixture would offer just enough concealment to maybe crawl through. And that's just what Houston did.



"It was about 3 p.m. when the buck walked to the other side of a mature oak and bedded down in the shade," Houston said. "I ranged him at 95 yards, and positioned my body keeping the buck's head directly on the other side of the oak trunk."



Houston slowly eased down on all fours with bow in hand and started crawling slowly toward it. He kept staring over the top of the thistle checking on the buck's demeanor. It looked like flies were bothering the buck him by the way he whipped his ears and shook his head. Houston figured that was good because it would keep the deer's senses distracted.
 
Countrygirl, let me be the first to say WELCOME TO MONSTER MULEYS!

That's a heck of a first post, in fact it might be one of the best I've ever seen. We already gave out the listing numbers, which is how everyone has seen what a fraud this fellow is.

I do hope you'll stick around and participate.
 
What cracks me up is all the people he had hook line and sinker over on another Forum. Unbelievable all the people falling all over him praising him and calling him a "Bow Hunting God". Laughable but also pathetic to think that there are that many gullable "Sportsman" out there these days.
 
I want to give a quick update on this loser's deer "kills" from previous years, 2007 and 2008 bucks, including the one pictured in post #32 above. I got word from a source that I trust very much, that Mr. Houston's bucks that he claimed were taken by him were actually bought online, just like the pair of 2009 bucks. Those were the bucks that several magazines described as California's #1 archery typical and non-typical bucks.

Looks like 2 more instances of his fraud and deception are going to be confirmed.
 
That's some hilarious stuff. Who do we have to blame for this type of behavior? If people weren't drooling over every story of big bucks and buying the mags they put them in there wouldn't be this incentive. I bet this happens more often than this one instance.

What would be more interesting to know is how many of these 'fair chase' trophies are really killed in headlights, or just across the fence/boundary, etc etc.
 
Fatherofthree, I think you'd be disappointed to find out how few animals are really taken under less than legal or ethical circumstances. I really do believe that this POS is the exception, not the rule.

The tone of your post suggests that you think this type of thing is widespread, and I do not believe that is the case, not at all.
 
WOW! It totaly amazes me what some people will do to get a nut off! What a sleezeball.
 
Fish and Game finally got around to issuing a press release about this case, here it is:

>>> DFG News 12/3/2009 3:17 PM >>>

California Department of Fish and Game

For Immediate Release



Elk Grove Man Charged with Hunting Violations after Allegedly
Falsifying State Hunting Records

An Elk Grove man is facing misdemeanor charges after he allegedly
purchased trophy deer antlers on eBay and claimed he had shot the
animals himself.

Coleman Lee Houston, 29, allegedly used the online auction site to
purchase two very large sets of deer antlers from sellers in Colorado.
When questioned by a Department of Fish and Game (DFG) warden, Houston
claimed that both sets of antlers came from deer he had killed during a
legal deer hunt in California on October 30, 2009. The two record-size
deer were shot on the same day, he said, and tagged with lawfully
acquired California deer tags.

However, the area where Houston claimed to have killed the deer - near
Highway 193 in El Dorado County - is not known for producing deer with
antlers spreads exceeding 30 inches. According to Warden Sean Pirtle,
?The chances of taking two 30-inch bucks in one day in this area
would be exceedingly remote.?

As part of their investigation, wardens reviewed Internet documents,
conducted interviews and reviewed DFG license records. Evidence was
obtained indicating Houston purchased both sets of antlers on eBay.

Upon further investigation, wardens found that Houston has claimed to
have set state buck records at least twice before. According to the
California Bowman Association, the official California State Hunting
Records credit Houston with taking record bucks with archery equipment
in both 2007 and in 2008. Record-holders are required to sign a
statement of ?fair chase,? stating that the animals were taken
lawfully under state wildlife laws. Deer must be taken during the open
season and during legal hunting hours, and the hunter must be in
possession of a valid hunting license and deer tags.

Investigation continues into the legitimacy of both of these previous
records.

Fish and Game laws prohibit the sale or barter of any fish or wildlife
or parts thereof. A formal complaint will be filed with the Sacramento
County District Attorney's Office, charging Houston with the purchase of
wildlife parts; submitting false information on his deer tags; failing
to exhibit animals, tags and antlers to a game warden upon demand; and
destruction of evidence. A misdemeanor conviction carries a maximum fine
of $1,000 and up to six months in jail.
 
Hope he spends 6 months in jail and finds a boyfriend for his stay.After all its the season of giving. POS needs a reality check.

sidepass
 
This has been a great thread. I am amazed at what lengths a person will go to to try to impress others.

--I'm looking for a man... who calls himself Bucho! That's all! And you had to do it, the hard way!--
 
"The two record-size
deer were shot on the same day, he said, and tagged with lawfully
acquired California deer tags."

Is this a mistake in the press release. How would you get two tags? Whats even more messed up is that the Fish and Game believed this guy.
 
bbgellerman, in the zone that he bought the tags for, anyone can purchase 2 over the counter tags, up to the total limit of tags that DFG sells for that unit. The quota is huge, as the overall success rate is something like 5-8% in that unit group (D3-D5).

He bought both sets of antlers on ebay, then went to fish and game and bought the deer tags, lawfully, after the antlers were in transit. He acquired the tags lawfully, but putting them on antlers that he purchased is not legal in California. In this state, it is not legal to buy or sell intact antlers from any game animal that is indigenous to our state.
 
He actually had the balls to go on MULEY CRAZY and call TED NUGENT a POACHER because Ted used C'MER Deer on a Cal. Blacktail hunt.
 
HOE-LEEE CRAP!! I have to admit that I didn't think it possible for anyone to be that stupid. I guess Mr. Houston showed me...

As for having the balls to call Ted Nugent a poacher, I have this theory that in the internet universe, when some anonymous whack-job without any evidence accuses someone else of a particular misdeed, there's a real good chance that the whack-job is projecting his own misdeeds on to that somebody else--makes him feel better if others are doing it too. Very similar to how libs project their own bitter racism, chauvinism, and bigotry on to the rest of us--how would they know that without being able to read our minds? Thus, Mr. Houston was merely projecting his own bad behavior (poaching) on to Uncle Ted...

What a douche...
 

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