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    Tell me about your CO Muzzle loader set up

    Followup- Well after 5 range days I seem to have all my issues solved. I went with two .005" stainless shims in the breech plug and now have a tight seal with Federal primers. That eliminated the messy blowback and reduced the primer sticking. I do get some primers that pop out a bit and hang...
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    Tell me about your CO Muzzle loader set up

    Not to hijack the OP's thread but- I talked to Knight and cleared up some things. It's perfectly fine to shoot BH209 in the red disc BOLT rifles (Disc Extreme, Mountaineer & UL). They recommend the bare primer for better ignition. Not recommended to use BH209 in plunger style rifles...
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    Tell me about your CO Muzzle loader set up

    I'll check with them tomorrow. Not sure how a red disc could hit you in the face unless the rifle was destroyed? The disc is enclosed in the bolt with only a tiny vent slot. Maybe the old plunger style guns had that problem? I have read the bare primer was supposed to improve ignition...
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    Tell me about your CO Muzzle loader set up

    Maybe my terminology was wrong there- I mean converting to the red jackets (vs org disc). That's the setup I have in the Disc Extreme and never had any blowback issues beyond what I get with other powders- the slight scope scorching. Mainly I want to try the red discs in the UL to make it...
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    Tell me about your CO Muzzle loader set up

    I tried CCI Magnum, Federal and Winchester primers. I used 777 primers when BH209 first came out and found those didn't work well. On the "FOOF" shots I suspect the looser fit of the projectile was the culprit. The powder did light- but left a wet residue. I've tried dry patch only...
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    Tell me about your CO Muzzle loader set up

    Yep, I've had those too. Sometimes on a Thor if the fit wasn't snug- I got a FOOF. Then picked the bullet up out front for a second try. The two hangfires on whitetails I was shooting saboted Barnes with a very tight fit. I love how clean it is, and the accuracy. Having so many things...
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    Tell me about your CO Muzzle loader set up

    I was getting random misfires and hangfires-with three different Disc Extremes. We replaced breechplugs, carefully cleaned them (including the 1/8 drill), tried different loading techniques as far as ramrod pressure- and still random misfires. If the powder was a year old it was more like...
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    Tell me about your CO Muzzle loader set up

    I bought a Knight UL rifle last year. Went with the open sight/bare primer option thinking it might be better with BH209 than my Disc extreme. Then I added weaver style bases for a scope during load testing. Then a NECG rear peep for Colorado. Love the rifle. Very lightweight and recoil is...
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    8,000 new applicants

    Maybe that would work- let the 20K+ new applicants get "vested" for two years. Then when they are finally eligible to draw- jack the fees up to WY PP levels. Windfall for DOW.
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    Leupold VX5-HD - Should I go with 2-10 or 3-15?

    LAST EDITED ON May-16-18 AT 06:55AM (MST)[p] I have a couple 2-10's and really like the compact size. But for some reason Leupold discontinued the Windplex reticle version (171388) which I favored. If you want to use the scope for longer ranges the 3-15's still have Windplex reticle and side...
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    Hottest primer for blackthorn?

    When I first switched to BH209 in my Knight I was using STS and W209 primers. I had numerous misfires and some pretty scary hangfires. I tried changing breechplugs but still had problems. I then did a little unscientific test of a few primers by "flame testing" the fired primers onto a...
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    Wyo sheep,moose and goat

    Well, If I read the draw odds info correctly....I drew Unit 1 Moose! The next two hours waiting for confirmation are gonna be long..... Dean
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    44 rem mag load

    I have an old Marlin that loves Hornady 225gr FTX over H110. Around 1800fps and under an inch at 100yds. Work well on whitetails.
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    Stolen camera on Thousand Lake

    Not that in any way would I think to steal someone else's property- but devil's advocate here.... At what point do these things become litter? I mean do we as sportsmen think it's okay to sprinkle the public grounds with trail cameras year round? Personally, I find bumping into trail...
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    WEATHERBY GERMANY VS JAPAN???

    I have a friend who has owned every caliber up th .460 and tried them all. He contends the only real thing he has noticed is the German actions were lapped giving them a smoother and more solid feel. In the used market, you will also find it easier to locate nicer wood and the 26" barrel on...
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    Angled or straight scope and why?

    I'd always used a straight scope until last fall when I picked up a Swaro ATM65 HD. Spent over 36 days glassing sheep daily for several hours a day every day. My friend has a Leica straight scope so I was able to switch it up and compare. Speaking as a geezer (mid 50's) the angle gave me a...
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    WY Sheep Up!

    But if you shoot a bullet proof vest one time- you have to throw it away.....;^)
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    WY Sheep Up!

    I love your gun choice Elmer. I'm taking my 1952 M70 in 30-06. I wanted to take a .270 being a JC fan...but he loved the '06 too and my old warhorse is the most accurate gun I own. I had to refinish it after all the remaining varnish came off on a nasty goat hunt awhile back. I have not...
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    Wyo Sheep/Moose Results!

    Finally drew:^) - Unit 19 Sheep
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    I keep checking....

    Cancel my blazer order! I'm going sheep hunting!
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    I keep checking....

    I applied for 19 this year. It's the fourth different area I've applied for over the years. I put in for 19 once before and I was the ONLY max point guy that didn't draw that time. It's been (almost) laughable how I've dodged fate each time. I don't mind so much- it sure keeps things...
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    I keep checking....

    I haven't slept much....My wife keeps asking me why I sit and stare at the computer. After 18yrs of applying I am wondering if I could end up the last max point holder to draw. I mean somebody has to be last right? Maybe WY G&F could offer a gold blazer for 20yrs of dedicated applications...
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    Max sheep points?

    I have 17. Saw it on the internet that year. Tried to convince friends to apply too. They didn't listen.
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    Awfully quiet after Wyo draw

    I applied for 19 this year, 24 last year and I think 5 before that. I seem to manage to just miss each time. It's not so bad, anticipation is half the fun.
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    Awfully quiet after Wyo draw

    I was one of the max point sheep applicants that failed to draw....again. A few more states to go but the WY sheep draw was my best chance. I think I read on another thread I was one of only six max pt holders that didn't draw.
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    First Time on the Wasatch

    Well after lurking on this site for a few years hearing stories of big Utah bulls I was pretty pumped when I finally drew my Wasatch muzzleloader bull tag. I made a trip out camping in Strawberry area with my wife to learn the area and did some scouting. I was back with a friend a few days...
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    Best Peep Sight

    I have been happy with my NECG peep that attaches to a Weaver style base. I use a scope for hunting some states and also for working up loads on the bench. With this sight I can switch easily from peep to scope without losing zero. It is a little more expensive than the other brands. I also...
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    Theif stole my CC # before the draw

    What a coincidence.... The CC# I used for my Nevada apps was also stolen. I was just notified yesterday by the fraud department that someone was purchasing 'health products' and having them shipped to California. Since I live in Michigan the CC company froze the account for suspicious...
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    Wasatch Muzz Elk Hunt.

    Michigan. I'm getting a little nervous....I drew an elk tag for Wyoming too, and there are still a bunch more applications floating out there... I warned my wife I may be moving away for a couple months.
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    Wasatch Muzz Elk Hunt.

    I have been camped in front of this computer for days- the email chime woke me this morning. I drew a NR Wasatch Muzzleloader tag with 10 points. WOOO HOOO This will be my first Utah hunt. I just retired this year so timing is great, I can make a summer scouting trip as well as arrive extra...
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    Peep Sight

    Good deal Don, hope it works for you. There is some limit to overall adjustment depending on the height of your bases. I changed my front sight (couple bucks) to get the perfect combination. I hope to have mine out this weekend testing some new Platinum Powerbelts. Dean
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    Peep Sight

    I know the price is a little high. Nothing wrong with the Williams sight except you have to take your bases off every time you want to put on the peep. I like to leave the scope bases on with loctite on the screws. I hunt Colorado and Michigan every year so it's easier for me not to keep...
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    Peep Sight

    LAST EDITED ON Jul-03-06 AT 04:39PM (MST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Jul-03-06 AT 04:38?PM (MST) I don't know about your particular rifle- but if you are using the Weaver base anyway, NECG makes a sight that fits the base. You may have to do some experimenting with front sight height to get the right...
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    Who is going to drop the $100 for a WY sheep point?

    I understand there are areas where guides are not required but the the information I'm hearing/reading is that most of the good sheep are taken from areas 1-5. In those areas the bulk of the sheep country is in designated wilderness. Area 5 is supposed to have sheep outside the wilderness but...
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    Who is going to drop the $100 for a WY sheep point?

    I have the max sheep points and (I think) 7 or 8 Moose points so I guess I'll have to cough up the application fee. I'd like to put in for the tags this year but with overtime cuts I will have trouble coming up with the $6K for a guide if I draw for sheep. Barring a lottery win it's...
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    444 fp power belt ?

    I've been trying several combinations the last three weekends trying to find a replacement for 348gr Hollow Points as I have had them break up badly- especially on bone. I tried the 444's yesterday and they are one of the best shooting of the powerbelts in my Knight. I don't have time to do...
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    Knight Bighorn Accuracy Problems

    Doug, I also had trouble with the "fire sights" (46yr old eyes). I kept the front sight but went to a peep sight in the rear and things improved dramatically. I can still shoot a buckhorn type rear pretty well but the firesight rear was too much for me- and it seemed worse in low light...
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    348 gr. Powerbelt for elk

    Fairchase, Wasn't my theory- based on what I read. With large doses of loose Pyrodex and Triple 7 the burning can be incomplete causing less performance than pellets. Hence the new "power stem" technology by Knight. I will chronograph some 150gr loose and pellet loads and see exactly how my...
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    348 gr. Powerbelt for elk

    I appreciate your concern;-), but I did check with Hodgdon, Thompson Center and Knight before I used the load. I think some of you are misunderstanding the 15% thing. Per Hodgdon- Triple 7 is safe when used as a VOLUME equivilent for blackpowder. Triple 7 is as safe but performs better in the...
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    348 gr. Powerbelt for elk

    Yes, we used 150gr loose 777 for Colorado. I use 3 50gr pellets here in Michigan. I used the same load in my TC gun before I switched to the Knight. I checked with Hodgdon and Thompson Center before I tried it- and it works great. We used the "copper" Powerbelt bullets. However it is more of...
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