Bailouts, Used to be bad

NeMont

NeMont

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I have not been on this page because it became useless to attempt to discuss anything with Trump is the greatest ever crowd.

Been exchanges emails with Homer, he told me he was in MM.com jail. So I though what the heck, I will get on to see how much the Trump lovers were enjoying the stock market, the massive new spending and the end run to socialism. Weird nary a thread on discussing any of those topics. To hear it be told only the Democrats are too blame for the Chinese Virus, for ordering War footing, for demanding QE bigger than Obama, For demanding "money for all".

Now can all you Trump lovers tell me why suddenly you all are in love with spending $2 Trillion on stimulus with Trump at the helm when Obama doing it was going to ruin the country? What is the difference, please make your very best argument why Trump is lily white and shares no blame for demanding Trillions more in spending and stimulus? It should be fun for you died in the wool Trump lovers' to once again express your love freely.

Now I don't hold President Trump responsible for much in the whole thing because nobody saw it coming. Nobody has had much real world experience with such a virus and Americans are stupid for buying asswipe by the truck load. We see it up here in the middle of nowhere just like everywhere else. Stupid is as stupid does

Bash away, I just find it funny that nothing has changed.

Stay safe, wash your hands and make sure you have plenty of asswipe on hand. Try not to pass it on to those who are vulnerable.

Remember it will pass as soon as it warms up. The bill, signed by Trump, Pelosi and McConnell, will remain for generations after we ruin the economy via hysteria.

Keep believing Trump is the greatest.

Over and out,

Nemont
 
"wrong about everything" that is rich but hey you can have your own opinion. I give a shyt.

It isn't a bailout? Have you bothered to look at the what was actually passed instead of what Fox News told you to think?

Go read the new bill the Senate passed and tell me how it is not a bailout?

Go look at the FED Balance sheet and why we have been pumping trillions of newly printed money into the system, even before COVID19 ever hit.

Keep the faith that Trump is your savior. So far his response identical to any liberal whack job: spend more, borrow more, print more and act like it doesn't matter.
 
It's loans, not a bailout. But hey, apparently to you, they're the same thing. The difference between this and Obama's- Obama gave money to large corporations who mismanaged their money. This is caused by an act of God. And Obama's wasnt required to be paid back, these will be, corporation wise. Do you understand the differences?!
 
Trump is no fiscal conservative. Nor is congress. Not that that matters to the world at the moment.

This really isn't the same thing as a bunch of wall streeters running a ponzi scheme. What would you do?
 
Loans? You obviously have not bothered to read the actual bill nor the one McConell has ready in the senate.

I never said this is the same thing as financial crisis.

Got love the Trump lovers who used to be conservatives now defend trillions in New debt because of a virus has the sheeple frightened.

How much debt are you willing to wrack up so Trump can get reelected? His two terms will now exceed Obama's debt and the FED's balance sheet has expanded even more.

How about explaining free people have to be free to decide if they want to possibly die from a virus if they make dumb choices. Why is it up to our government to borrow and spend trillions on it?

Nemont
 
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How about explaining free people have to be free to decide if they want to possibly die from a virus if they make dumb choices. Why is it up to our government to borrow and spend trillions on it?
 
DeerMadness said:
Maybe you should also know that Dems are also wanting this plus they want to remove 10k per person of student loan debt. Go back to the hole you crawled out of Troll !
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So Trump lovers excuse is because the democrats want it therefore Trump should just go along.

Nothing changes with the Trump loving sheeple. If Trump proposes socialism, well then socialism is good.
 
The only substantive responses to NeMont have been saying that the money is a loan... ITS NOT!!! and that its not a bailout... IT IS!!!

Everybody else went straight to attacking the messenger instead of responding to the post. Not a good way to win an argument, especially if you actually think you stand on the winning side.

A few conservatives voted against the Coronavirus Bailout Bill...

“There is a herd mentality around this building right now where a lot of normally smart people are literally saying things like: The most important thing is to be fast, even if the ideas that are being advocated for are not really ready for prime time and can't really withstand the scrutiny of debate. That is a really dumb idea." - Ben Sasse

... the rest just got in line with Trump and spent trillions of dollars that Republicans used to agree we didn't have. But as Trump said, he knew this was a pandemic even before it was a pandemic - so he was expecting this.
 
We're kicking the can down the road again. We should of had an emergency fund set aside just for things like this. Gawd, I thought it all would have crashed down on us long ago.

I wonder how much pork is in this trillion dollar bill that has nothing to do with this crisis? There was too much agreement in Congress for there not to be a bunch of pork.
 
Buy-out, loan, or quantitative easing writ large, the previous buy out had everything to do with rescuing maybe a dozen mis-handled companies and the Fannie Mae fiasco. This is what pissed off the proletariat and rightly so.

To wit, It is my understanding from an article I read in a financial periodical, that what was called a buy-out back when the Bush/Obama administrations initiated it, was in fact the US Gov coming in with tax payer dollars, and buying up that tanking AIG, GM, GE, et.al stock when it was fixin' to hit the basement.

Investors saw this, curbed the slide, bought into the rescue and saved the Titanic from slipping under the ice, metaphorically speaking. Buying at the floor like the Gov did, and then letting those "investements" gain value over the next few years helped. Again, I read where the US eventually sold off those rising stocks and pretty much recouped what it dumped, with the exception of that regrettable Fannie Mae fiasco.

Now, I've been told that I am a little more right wing than Attila the Hun. Pretty conservative, me, but left, right, center or non-binary, I think we could probably all agree that this buy-out, if you will, is a bit more... shall we say strident. No financial guru am I, but literally millions of jobs are on the line here. The situation we have before us is like nothing we've seen in nearly 100 years. Maybe ever.

I am not a Trump apologist, but this might be the only arrow left in the quiver if we are to stay solvent. I hardly see this buy out, or whatever you want to call it, as being in the same ball park as what we saw a decade or so ago.

Stay frosty. Stay sane. Take care of those in your immediate ring of influence. This is going to work out.
 
This aint about winning an "argument". It's about helping the poor folks out of work. My brother just laid off 95 of his employees. So really just stop it with the BS already. What the f*** are you going to do to help our country out?
 
NeMont said:
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How about explaining free people have to be free to decide if they want to possibly die from a virus if they make dumb choices. Why is it up to our government to borrow and spend trillions on it?
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So, your plan is to bang your spoon on your high chair? I suppose it could work.
 
NeMont said:
So Trump lovers excuse is because the democrats want it therefore Trump should just go along.

Nothing changes with the Trump loving sheeple. If Trump proposes socialism, well then socialism is good.
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More like nothing changes with you trump hating sheeple. You guys obviously haven't read into it, but keep spewing that it's a bailout. IT IS LOW INTEREST LOANS, not grants. Democrats want to make it grants, not trump. Do keep regurgitating your bs. Oh, and trump's national debt is approaching obamas???? Obama put up over 10 trillion, so again, nice try.... plus, you do realize over half a trillion dollars a year goes to Obama's debt interest, which was pure negligence.
 
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Mossback50 you can explain it to the "Wizard of Smarts", but you can't make him understand it. Especially when a person has TDS so horribly it causes constipation.
 
Nothing changes on this forum.
Now I am a coward for pointing out what you all used to be opposed to but willingly accept as completely necessary and required.

Well you all keep cheering, your conservatism is as phony as ever.

Stay safe, keep your powder dry and take care of your neighbors.
 
NeMont said:
I have not been on this page because it became useless to attempt to discuss anything with Trump is the greatest ever crowd.

Been exchanges emails with Homer, he told me he was in MM.com jail. So I though what the heck, I will get on to see how much the Trump lovers were enjoying the stock market, the massive new spending and the end run to socialism. Weird nary a thread on discussing any of those topics. To hear it be told only the Democrats are too blame for the Chinese Virus, for ordering War footing, for demanding QE bigger than Obama, For demanding "money for all".

Now can all you Trump lovers tell me why suddenly you all are in love with spending $2 Trillion on stimulus with Trump at the helm when Obama doing it was going to ruin the country? What is the difference, please make your very best argument why Trump is lily white and shares no blame for demanding Trillions more in spending and stimulus? It should be fun for you died in the wool Trump lovers' to once again express your love freely.

Now I don't hold President Trump responsible for much in the whole thing because nobody saw it coming. Nobody has had much real world experience with such a virus and Americans are stupid for buying asswipe by the truck load. We see it up here in the middle of nowhere just like everywhere else. Stupid is as stupid does

Bash away, I just find it funny that nothing has changed.

Stay safe, wash your hands and make sure you have plenty of asswipe on hand. Try not to pass it on to those who are vulnerable.

Remember it will pass as soon as it warms up. The bill, signed by Trump, Pelosi and McConnell, will remain for generations after we ruin the economy via hysteria.

Keep believing Trump is the greatest.

Over and out,

Nemont
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Nemo, glad to see you're back.

I personally don't think this "stimulus package" is going to help any average American. A couple thousand bucks handed out to people isn't going to go very far. The package also includes "piggy back" amendments that are going to be long lasting and expensive. I think we just pissed away a lot of money, but I'm just going to have to wait to see how this all turns out.
I'm not even going to think about looking at my 401k for a while, it's pretty ugly.

hwy
 
grizzly said:
The only substantive responses to NeMont have been saying that the money is a loan... ITS NOT!!! and that its not a bailout... IT IS!!!

Everybody else went straight to attacking the messenger instead of responding to the post. Not a good way to win an argument, especially if you actually think you stand on the winning side.

A few conservatives voted against the Coronavirus Bailout Bill...

“There is a herd mentality around this building right now where a lot of normally smart people are literally saying things like: The most important thing is to be fast, even if the ideas that are being advocated for are not really ready for prime time and can't really withstand the scrutiny of debate. That is a really dumb idea." - Ben Sasse

... the rest just got in line with Trump and spent trillions of dollars that Republicans used to agree we didn't have. But as Trump said, he knew this was a pandemic even before it was a pandemic - so he was expecting this.
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You taking the check from the Government ?
 
NeMont said:
"wrong about everything" that is rich but hey you can have your own opinion. I give a shyt.

It isn't a bailout? Have you bothered to look at the what was actually passed instead of what Fox News told you to think?

Go read the new bill the Senate passed and tell me how it is not a bailout?

Go look at the FED Balance sheet and why we have been pumping trillions of newly printed money into the system, even before COVID19 ever hit.

Keep the faith that Trump is your savior. So far his response identical to any liberal whack job: spend more, borrow more, print more and act like it doesn't matter.
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Careful with don’t give a sh#t you’ll need more hard to get a#s wipe .
 
Because obama wanted to bail out poor business decisions made by idiot CEO's that manufacture decency and luxury items and Trump is reacting to, literally, the entire world all but shutting down.

Without some form of currency in circulation, those who have to work will lose out as well. Good luck rebounding from that.

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Nemont,

Well I didn't think much of you before, but this is really low. Sad and pathetic to wait until something terrible like this pandemic happens, to come back here and spout off again about how you hate our great President, and everyone who supports him. Please don't tell me you'd rather have Joe Biden as president.
 
Govt. always gets bigger with these dramatic events and we the people always lose a bit of liberty in the process.
 
"I have not been on this page because it became useless to attempt to discuss anything with Trump is the greatest ever crowd." - you have discussed it over and over, ok , So move to somewhere people agree with your liberal views and be happy !

"So I though what the heck, I will get on to see how much the Trump lovers were enjoying the stock market, the massive new spending and the end run to socialism". - Stock markets have fallen under many administrations and this is a world event, do you think another Administration could have stopped it cold?

"Now can all you Trump lovers tell me why suddenly you all are in love with spending $2 Trillion on stimulus with Trump at the helm when Obama doing it was going to ruin the country?" - So who said we love the help package, and we aren't the ones who make the decisions anyway..

As for the asswipe I think you are one for running back here acting like this after disappearing when things weren't going to your liberal plan wishes.

Maybe you should move to California and embrace the wonderful Democratic Party State.
 
Oh, and one more thing : you side stepped the part I brought up about Pelosi and her cronies wanting to add Student loan write -offs to the big spending plan. I have always watched you have comebacks but you skip stuff you people point out that make your opinions lose the luster you try to illuminate.
 
Bob D. said:
Nemont,

Well I didn't think much of you before, but this is really low. Sad and pathetic to wait until something terrible like this pandemic happens, to come back here and spout off again about how you hate our great President, and everyone who supports him. Please don't tell me you'd rather have Joe Biden as president.
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I figured you couldn't read. Show me where I said I hated Trump. Please do it. I said Trump lovers used to hate debt, deficits, QE, borrowing and printing money. When all they really hated is which party the president who did was from. They don't give a flying #$%ck about the debt or freedom for that matter.

When AOC and Ilhan Omar are agreeing with you, then you most likely are on the wrong side of the equation.

I would rather have freedom and not ruin the world economy over less than 10,000 deaths but you are just like the other sheeple and do as you are told.

I wouldn't vote for Joe Biden for dog catcher so stick that turd in your pocket or you mouth, where ever it fits.

Nemont
 
DeerMadness said:
Oh, and one more thing : you side stepped the part I brought up about Pelosi and her cronies wanting to add Student loan write -offs to the big spending plan. I have always watched you have comebacks but you skip stuff you people point out that make your opinions lose the luster you try to illuminate.
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Why would I have to argue the Democrat point? Here is a question for you, if Pelosi and Cronies put that in the bill will McConnell pass it through the Senate and Trump sign it? If so then your cronies are just the same as Pelosi's.
 
What Nemont is ignoring is the fact how his choice for President would have screwed this incident up. He is a total Trump hater and will always be and not even worth the time to listen to his rants.
On his original post of this thread, I stopped reading after the first paragraph and said here he goes again with his B.S.

RELH
 
RELH said:
What Nemont is ignoring is the fact how his choice for President would have screwed this incident up. He is a total Trump hater and will always be and not even worth the time to listen to his rants.
On his original post of this thread, I stopped reading after the first paragraph and said here he goes again with his B.S.

RELH
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There is a reason they call the corona virus the Boomer Remover.
 
The politicians are trying to outdo themselves and one up their response to show their "seriousness" One thing is for sure, if they don't find a reasonable response to this and let people get back to work.... and soon! - we're talking about a great depression rather than recession. Over 12.4k died in the U.S. from H1N1and I don't even remember it and it certainly didn't destroy the economy. 219 have died from it so far here.
 
My life has not missed a beat. Go to work, go home, repeat the next day. Except my wife is in lockdown...lol
I know it is different elsewhere, but it is hard to believe-comprehend it is that bad for everyone else? I am tired of seeing a post-rumor then research it and find out it is BS.
I hope I am wrong. I can see if your in a big city it might hurt a bit.

I see such and such place is getting RAVAGED and in reality they have 1 or no reported cases.
 
treedagain said:
My life has not missed a beat. Go to work, go home, repeat the next day. Except my wife is in lockdown...lol
I know it is different elsewhere, but it is hard to believe-comprehend it is that bad for everyone else? I am tired of seeing a post-rumor then research it and find out it is BS.
I hope I am wrong. I can see if your in a big city it might hurt a bit.

I see such and such place is getting RAVAGED and in reality they have 1 or no reported cases.
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Exactly, all a bunch of hysteria.
 
NeMont said:
Nothing changes on this forum.
Now I am a coward for pointing out what you all used to be opposed to but willingly accept as completely necessary and required.

Well you all keep cheering, your conservatism is as phony as ever.

Stay safe, keep your powder dry and take care of your neighbors.
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Didn't call you a coward, said the timing of your return was cowardly. Maybe homer didn't tell you how he ended up in timeout?
 
Nemont- good to have you back. There will likely be a bailout of the airlines and a few others. They will have to put some skin in with stock or other collateral and eventually pay it back. We had dinner at our local place last night and all the staff was scared about starving if they closed the business. Well, today they closed all restaurants and bars. Zero money for all those people and they can't make it a few weeks for money to show up. I offered to help our waitress out since we have become friends. Obama's stimulus went to his buddies in the solar biz. This one will go to people that just have nothing saved and will starve without help.

I was blasted on another forum for saying they should infect the entire nation now except for those with serious illness. At 70+ I am willing to take one for the team. It would save the economy for most Americans.

I agree that it is just devastating to the economy and our future but the horse is out. Funny that all those senators on both sides sold their stock right before the crash. Maybe take all of that money and throw it in the treasury. We are led by crooks and better look out for our neighbors.
 
Glen,

Good to hear from you, hope you and yours are safe and well stocked.

First I am not going to stick around long because it is useless to talk to Trump lovers and get anything of value from them.

I am reminded of the quote from the Vietnam war: We must destroy the village to save it. That is what I believe is happening in our country and world.

To be clear I never blamed Trump for any the Virus or his response. I was simply pointing out that there are literally hundreds of Obama haters on here, me included, who hated debt, spending and handouts back then. Same guys are now cheerleading for it and when it is pointed out to them, I have TDS, I have "cowardly timing", etc. etc. Obviously the only thing they real care about is if it is their guy running up the debt and not much more.

Nemont
 
Boskee's gone, so this will have to do

"We have been warned of the beguiling paternalism which draws the life-blood from the free individual, how it insinuates, worms its way deep, sucks the energy away and leaves the husks of the once independent as monument —

...So I think that the type of oppression by which democratic peoples are threatened will resemble nothing of what preceded it in the world; our contemporaries cannot find the image of it in their memories. I seek in vain myself for an expression that exactly reproduces the idea that I am forming of it and includes it; the old words of despotism and of tyranny do not work. The thing is new, so I must try to define it, since I cannot name it.

...Above those men (individuals) arises an immense and tutelary power that alone takes charge of assuring their enjoyment and of looking after their fate. It is absolute, detailed, regular, far-sighted and mild. It would resemble paternal power if, like it, it had as a goal to prepare men for manhood; but on the contrary it seeks only to fix them irrevocably in childhood; it likes the citizens to enjoy themselves, provided that they think only about enjoying themselves. It works willingly for their happiness; but it wants to be the unique agent for it and the sole arbiter; it attends to their security, provides for their needs, facilitates their pleasures, conducts their principal affairs, directs their industry, settles their estates, divides their inheritances; how can it not remove entirely from them the trouble to think and the difficulty of living?

This is how it makes the use of free will less useful and rarer every day; how it encloses the action of the will within a smaller space and little by little steals from each citizen even the use of himself. Equality has prepared men for all these things; it has disposed men to bear them and often even to regard them as a benefit.

After having thus taken each individual one by one into its powerful hands, and having molded him as it pleases, the sovereign power extends its arms over the entire society; it covers the surface of society with a network of small, complicated, minute, and uniform rules, which the most original minds and the most vigorous souls cannot break through to go beyond the crowd; it does not break wills, but it softens them, bends them and directs them; it rarely forces action, but it constantly opposes your acting; it does not destroy, it prevents birth; it does not tyrannize, it hinders, it represses, it denervates, it extinguishes, it stupifies, and finally it reduces each nation to being nothing more than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd.

I have always believed that this sort of servitude, regulated, mild and peaceful, of which I have just done the portrait, could be combined better than we imagine with some of the external forms of liberty, and that it would not be impossible for it to be established in the very shadow of the sovereignty of the people. "
— Alexis de Tocqueville
 
There is a reason they call the corona virus the Boomer Remover.
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Nemont if it removes too many of the boomers, you will be crying and whining about losing all those clients and going broke. You know those boomers you hate, but do your best to make a living off their backs as your insurance clients. You and Pelosi, and the Bidens have a lot in common.
RELH
 
RELH said:
There is a reason they call the corona virus the Boomer Remover.
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Nemont if it removes too many of the boomers, you will be crying and whining about losing all those clients and going broke. You know those boomers you hate, but do your best to make a living off their backs as your insurance clients. You and Pelosi, and the Bidens have a lot in common.
RELH
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I thought you quit reading way back at the first post?

You and a retarded monkey have more in common than me and Pelosi or Biden so there is that.
 
NeMont said:
Glen,

Good to hear from you, hope you and yours are safe and well stocked.

First I am not going to stick around long because it is useless to talk to Trump lovers and get anything of value from them.

I am reminded of the quote from the Vietnam war: We must destroy the village to save it. That is what I believe is happening in our country and world.

To be clear I never blamed Trump for any the Virus or his response. I was simply pointing out that there are literally hundreds of Obama haters on here, me included, who hated debt, spending and handouts back then. Same guys are now cheerleading for it and when it is pointed out to them, I have TDS, I have "cowardly timing", etc. etc. Obviously the only thing they real care about is if it is their guy running up the debt and not much more.

Nemont
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Punch and run.....do I need to say it again?
 
add something of value and I will listen. I doubt there is much of value ever discussed on here.

On the NFIB conference call with President DJT and he is explaining his approach to small business crunch. Lots of nonbailout bailout language "free, forgiven, without costs, exempt, not required to repay". Not much talk of loans but lots of grants, waivers and protections.

For the sake of our country I hope he succeeds in this.
 
DW said:
Like your OP? Got it.
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So pointing out that Trumpers don't care about the spending or debt as long of Trump does it isn't of any value? Okay

My OP has as much value as the "Trump is the greatest ever" daily posts that has been the theme Since Nov of 2016. Or all Republicans are lily white and all democrats are devil spawn.

"Don't Trust the government to do anything right" to now "Only government can save us". Makes perfect sense. The only left is for Manny to finally get his dream come true and he can start killing fellow Americans because they disagree with his politics.

Nemont
 
I'm pretty sure it's the government that ordered the world to stop turning. Shouldn't the government try to save us? It's not a bail out because in this case, we didn't cause it. Nice try NeMont.

Soon we're going to have to defy the government and get back to work to save our own skin. See how stupid the government is?

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wetmule said:
Good looking buck in your avatar NM! Probably tastes much better than a goose. (y)
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One of my neighbors decided I should go with him to hunt deer on Veterans day. Haven't been that into it but decided to go. Nov 11, 2019 it was -25 all day long and a stiff wind. Well ended up right up at the Canadian border. Sitting watching a group of does and all of sudden two bucks jump the border fence onto the U.S. side.

Mine already is back from the taxidermist.

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eelgrass said:
I'm pretty sure it's the government that ordered the world to stop turning. Shouldn't the government try to save us? It's not a bail out because in this case, we didn't cause it. Nice try NeMont.

Soon we're going to have to defy the government and get back to work to save our own skin. See how stupid the government is?

URGENT: States Making Life Impossibly Hard for Truckers, Who Can't Find Food and Bathrooms

In this unprecedented crisis brought to us by the lying Communists in China, the COVID-19 pandemic panic has gone too far. America's truckers, the people we rely on to restock our empty grocery shelves, are being treated like disease vectors and worse, they've been forgotten.

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When did "we" cause the financial crisis? Or WWII or the Great Depression or any of the other world crisis's we have survived?

I am not saying do nothing, I am not even saying Trump is wrong. I am saying the guys who have completely changed their spots based on who is sitting in the White House are hypocrites at best.

Nemont
 
NeMont said:
One of my neighbors decided I should go with him to hunt deer on Veterans day. Haven't been that into it but decided to go. Nov 11, 2019 it was -25 all day long and a stiff wind. Well ended up right up at the Canadian border. Sitting watching a group of does and all of sudden two bucks jump the border fence onto the U.S. side.

Mine already is back from the taxidermist.
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That's great! Looks like following your own advice on your fixed quote in your post paid off. Good thing the borders were still open back then lol. Jumbo body and beautiful cape/hair on those bucks... nice job! Looks great in the mancave too.
 
One could make a strong argument that it is our moral obligation to take OUR money back from government in order to shrink the beast. It should beg us for more rather than the other way around.

Plus its the patriotic thing to do. :)
 
NeMont said:
So pointing out that Trumpers don't care about the spending or debt as long of Trump does it isn't of any value? Okay


Nemont
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You should have read around a bit before runnin the gas. Hell I even agreed with wyosam! All bs aside, you see I liked Glenn's post, you should stick around. We don't always agree but weve covered some of the same ground and I enjoy talkin huntin with ya. How'd the goose season treat ya? I was so busy I didn't make it out.
 
DW said:
You should have read around a bit before runnin the gas. Hell I even agreed with wyosam! All bs aside, you see I liked Glenn's post, you should stick around. We don't always agree but weve covered some of the same ground and I enjoy talkin huntin with ya. How'd the goose season treat ya? I was so busy I didn't make it out.
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Bluehair said:
One could make a strong argument that it is our moral obligation to take OUR money back from government in order to shrink the beast. It should beg us for more rather than the other way around.
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How does adding a trillion dollars to the national debt "shrink the beast"? Certainly that would mean the debt isn't the beast as it's only growing under this adminstration. And this bailout has no provisions to shrink the government, so that's not the beast. What's the beast?
 
I read that too and was confused.....yes, we send billions to the government but it is not like they saved it. This is credit card money. Cash advance....
 
Sage advice from the greatest poster here

"Everybody is here goofing around yet some people think problems are actually getting solved, opinions altered, and important decisions made. It's just MM and not a single person working on coronavirus even knows this site exists. So lighten up everybody. It's just some BS to do when you're bored and the TV is on a commercial break."
 
By “founder” I’m guessing you are the boss?

I’m docile, you won’t have any problems with me.

Thanks for the gratuitous welcome.
 
Bluehair said:
Sage advice from the greatest poster here

"Everybody is here goofing around yet some people think problems are actually getting solved, opinions altered, and important decisions made. It's just MM and not a single person working on coronavirus even knows this site exists. So lighten up everybody. It's just some BS to do when you're bored and the TV is on a commercial break."
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^^^ Yep. He seems like a smart guy
 
Make a truly courageous moral stand..........don't give them any more.

Or just do like every other patriot.....vote your self interest while bemoaning the system. Either way neither of us is likely to change our minds, and thats ok.

But you have to at least wonder if maybe this time things are different. I do.
 
Don Quixote said:
By “founder” I’m guessing you are the boss?

I’m docile, you won’t have any problems with me.

Thanks for the gratuitous welcome.
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Boss?? Probably not. Babysitter sometimes. I usually ask and warn, but sometimes some push me and push me.
 

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