BLM Lands targeted by Obama

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Obama Pushing Shooters Off Public Lands
Washington Whispers

Gun owners who have historically been able to use public lands for target practice would be barred from potentially millions of acres under new rules drafted by the Interior Department, the first major move by the Obama administration to impose limits on firearms.

Officials say the administration is concerned about the potential clash between gun owners and encroaching urban populations who like to use same land for hiking and dog walking.

"It's not so much a safety issue. It's a social conflict issue," said Frank Jenks, a natural resource specialist with Interior's Bureau of Land Management, which oversees 245 million acres. He adds that urbanites "freak out" when they hear shooting on public lands. [Read about the subpoena issued as a result of Operation Fast and Furious.]

If the draft policy is finally approved, some public access to Bureau lands to hunters would also be limited, potentially reducing areas deer, elk, and bear hunters can use in the West.

Conservationists and hunting groups, however, are mounting a fight. One elite group of conservationists that advises Interior and Agriculture is already pushing BLM to junk the regulations, claiming that shooters are being held to a much higher safety standard than other users of public lands, such as ATV riders.

"They are just trying to make it so difficult for recreational shooters," said Gary Kania, vice president of the Congressional Sportsmen's Foundation. His group is one of several, including the National Wildlife Foundation, Cabela's and Ducks Unlimited, on the Wildlife and Hunting Heritage Conservation Council fighting the new rules. During a two-day meeting ending this afternoon, they are drafting their own changes to the BLM rules.

"What we probably are going to be looking forward to is a reversal," said Kania. Asked about how to handle people who freak out when they hear shots on public lands, Kania said, "I don't know how to quanitify 'freaking out,'" and noted that he's seen people panicing when fly fishing in float tubes but nobody wants to ban then from rivers.

BLM actually invited the fight, seeking the council's comments. But officials suggested to Whispers that no changes are being planned to the draft regulations.

Over five pages, the draft BLM regulations raise concerns about how shooting can cause a "public disturbance." They also raise worries about how shooting and shooters can hurt plants and litter public lands.

This is the key paragraph foes say could lead to shooters being kicked off public lands:

"When the authorized officer determines that a site or area on BLM-managed lands used on a regular basis for recreational shooting is creating public disturbance, or is creating risk to other persons on public lands; is contributing to the defacement, removal or destruction of natural features, native plants, cultural resources, historic structures or government and/or private property; is facilitating or creating a condition of littering, refuse accumulation and abandoned personal property is violating existing use restrictions, closure and restriction orders, or supplementary rules notices, and reasonable attempts to reduce or eliminate the violations by the BLM have been unsuccessful, the authorized officer will close the affected area to recreational shooting." [Check out new Debate Club about whether Congress needs to overhaul gun trafficking laws.]

Squeezing out shooters, says the draft policy, is needed because, "As the West has become more populated, recreational shooters now often find themselves in conflict with other public lands users, and the BLM is frequently called on to mediate these conflicts."

At yesterday's meeting at Interior, the council balked at the BLM draft regulations, adding that the Obama administration was not being fair to shooters on the issue of safety.

In a draft retort to BLM, the council said other users of public land aren't required to be as safe as shooters. They note that shooters have a much lower injury rate than others, like ATV users. "The policy fails to recognize that recreational shooting has one of the lowest incidences of death and injury compared to virtually any other outdoor recreational activity. The policy is prejudicial and discriminatory to target shooters as compared to other recreationists," said the council's draft response, expected to be finalized today.

What's more, the group charged that the BLM is acting in a contradictory fashion, encouraging the shooting sports while limiting shooting areas.
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Its all in the master plan. He wont be elected again and he knows it. He will push as much through as he can until then. He is coming after us from all sides.
 
azoutback,
I'm not so sure you should be confident he's gonna loose the next election...once again the republicans are at a loss of a good canidate...all I want is someone decent to vote for, you wouldn't think that would be soooooo much to ask for!
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-17-11 AT 08:31AM (MST)[p]So let me see Now it's illegal to shoot in some national forests, and now they're expanding this to the BLM lands ( which are extensive in AZ) and just how far off do you think less access is coming on other fronts....... think more wilderness areas are more accessible?

If we keep Obama & Clinton in office they're going to take your right's away day by day and it's all being done BEHIND closed doors! You have to vote them out of office in order to stop them. They're legislating what... THEY.... think you need to do instead of what you want to do and taking away your right's in the process. You don't get to decide, have input, or a choice and it's not even being done by a majority..... It's a very small percentage of the population of this country imposing their will on us. If you want to have any input on this you have to get registered and vote them out of office and take back control of your country so YOU can have access to it's forests, streams, and be able to camp, hunt,or fish & carry a gun on OUR lands that were set aside for recreational use!
 
House Natural Resources Committee Passes Legislation Protecting Sportsmen?s Access


Columbus, Ohio ? Today the House Natural Resources Committee passed H.R. 2834, the Recreational Fishing and Hunting Heritage and Opportunities Act. This bill would protect fishing, hunting and recreational shooting on federal lands.

H.R. 2834 passed the Committee with strong bipartisan support by a vote of 29-14. This vital piece of legislation would require fishing, hunting and recreational shooting to be included in all federal land planning documents and would fix numerous inconsistencies in federal law that are being exploited by litigious environmental groups to reduce hunting opportunities on federal land. This bill is strongly supported by the U.S. Sportsmen?s Alliance, Safari Club International, the National Rifle Association, and millions of sportsmen across the country.

?This legislation is vital given the Administration?s recent actions toward hunters and recreational sport shooters,? said Melissa Simpson, Director of Government Affairs for Safari Club International. ?Sportsmen have repeatedly sought to collaborate with the federal agencies and have been greeted with proposed closures in areas such as the Sonoran Desert National Monument, where the BLM intends to close the entire one-half million acre national monument to shooters. There are some 63 shooting sites within the monument, closure of which will end access for sportsmen. Passage of H.R. 2834 is necessary to protect against these anti-hunting policies.?

?Sportsmen are increasingly facing attacks aimed at stopping them from using public land,? said Bud Pidgeon, President and CEO of the U.S. Sportsmen?s Alliance. ?This bill closes the loopholes that anti-hunters have used time and time again to try to deny access for hunting, fishing and shooting. Now is the time to put a stop to it. We are extremely pleased and appreciative that the House Natural Resources Committee recognized the importance of this bill.?



TONY MANDILE
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That's a start Tony but there's still work to be done to put this nightmare to rest. Thanks for posting that up!
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-19-11 AT 01:47PM (MST)[p]we MUST take a stand and realize that these politicians speak out both sides of their mouths. ^^^I have confidence in something if the NRA supports it. We must remain vigilant and hold them accountable, let them know we are willing to protect our hunting heritage. I am writing from the land of the ultimate "lock out" and managed access, California. It must be noted that the fine print in Legislation must be transparent as this is where the damage is done. I don't need mention the problems we encounter with access here in KA. Let me promise this as a KA public lands hunter unless the people rise up with an overwhelming message the HSUS and the treehuggers will purchase legislation in their favor. Don't believe me! Well come on over here to Southern KA where we have millions of acres of public lands that are in theory supposed to be open to hunting, sit down and plan a hunt you will get the picture then.
 

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