Can a young man with a knife defeat a grizzly bear?

I'd sure go down fighting and give that bear some battle scar's at a minimum :)
Mntman

"Hunting is where you prove yourself"
 
there is a mounted grizzly in the cowboy bar in Jackson,an old time wyoming outfitter killed it with his bare hands, its one of two known to have been killed that way, so if you had a knife it shouldn't be any problem
 
>there is a mounted grizzly in
>the cowboy bar in Jackson,an
>old time wyoming outfitter killed
>it with his bare hands,
>its one of two known
>to have been killed that
>way, so if you had
>a knife it shouldn't be
>any problem


.......a cowboy bar in Jackson? Who would have guessed? Was it like, a 3 day old cub? Or maybe it is a dark colored sheep? Seriously?

I suppose it's possible. You could stick your arm up his azz and pull his heart out.

I will doubt forever, that any human is capable of killing a Griz with his bare hands. I wouldn't have the nerve to even pass that story on.

I'd bet my best rifle that a human couldn't even kill a steer, half the weight of a griz, even if it was sedated.
 
>>there is a mounted grizzly in
>>the cowboy bar in Jackson,an
>>old time wyoming outfitter killed
>>it with his bare hands,
>>its one of two known
>>to have been killed that
>>way, so if you had
>>a knife it shouldn't be
>>any problem
>
>
>.......a cowboy bar in Jackson? Who
>would have guessed? Was it
>like, a 3 day old
>cub? Or maybe it is
>a dark colored sheep? Seriously?
>
>
>I suppose it's possible. You could
>stick your arm up his
>azz and pull his heart
>out.
>
>I will doubt forever, that any
>human is capable of killing
>a Griz with his bare
>hands. I wouldn't have the
>nerve to even pass that
>story on.
>
>I'd bet my best rifle that
>a human couldn't even kill
>a steer, half the weight
>of a griz, even if
>it was sedated.


LMMFAO nickman....you are so right...maybe, just maybe you could stab him good enough to die from a bad infection...long after he has deposited you in small piles in the woods.





great post/pic, thanks for sharing

JB
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Copy and paste it - or put that last / on the end. The replies this question gets are a laugh.
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LAST EDITED ON Feb-13-09 AT 08:22AM (MST)[p]nickmans never been to the famous million dollar cowboy bar in Jackson Hole, Hmm, it wasn't a cub either, how about a this,if it turns out to be true and it wasn't a cub you get me a years subscription to a hunting porn magazine, and if it isn't true ill get you one. Im not sure so it can't be too much
 
>>>> I suppose it's possible. You could stick your arm up his azz and pull his heart out.<<<<<

you need to put a warning on your replies nickman i almost spit coffee all over the puter LOLOLOLOLOL
 
Piper.....I am always open for a little wager.

Problem here is, you are going to expect me to accept confirmation of this event from some source in Wyoming...."where women are scarce and sheep are scared".

I will be happy to hear the details, but my cynical nature is going to be stretched to the limit to believe it ever happened.

Nothing personal, I don't think it is your bar we are talking about.

If it is, you should alter the story to something believable......like the guy was armed with only a dull "church key".
 
The story on the smallish mounted grizzly said the man stuck his forearm in the back of the bears mouth and bit down on the bears windpipe, when the bear went down due to lack of oxygen he proceded to club the animal with a thick branch, supposedly it was authenticated by the Wy game and fish. so I just called the bar, and the lady acted somewhat sheepish, then finally admitted the story was made up. It was a well written story and they got me, guess Im a dummy. PM me with your address and don't laugh too hard
 
From last year in B.C. . . . .
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Wednesday ? October 8 ? 2008

Cariboo man kills black bear with makeshift club

Jim West thankful to be alive but saddened by death of the bear and her two cubs
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Wednesday, October 08, 2008

A B.C. man bludgeoned a black bear to death with a stick after it attacked him near Green Lake in the Cariboo.

"She put me down twice. I knew if she put me down again, chances are I wouldn't get up," Jim West, 45, said Tuesday.

"It wasn't fight or flight. It was live or die."

West, a resident of 70 Mile House, and his two dogs were out scouting for moose when he crossed the path of an angry mama bear last Saturday afternoon.

He was walking into the wind watching his black labs, Shadow and Chopper, happily flushing out grouse when he heard a loud growl.

"All of a sudden I heard a loud huff and growl to my right and I turned and there was a bear six feet away," he said.

"I realized I had no time to do the smart thing -- to hit the ground, put my arms behind my head and play dead.

"I had only one option and that was to stop that bear from putting me down on the ground."

He kicked at the bear as its claws came crashing down on his upper lip, splitting it.

Seconds later the bear's heavy paws were on his shoulders and West was on the ground.

Quickly flipping over, he covered his head with his hands just as the bear took a couple of "good chews" out of the rear of his skull and left arm.

The dogs came back, distracting the bear long enough for West to take cover behind a small tree.

But the mama bear, whose cubs were on the other side of West, came back for a second round, knocking West back to the ground, biting him and slashing his right arm.

The dogs came back again to help, distracting the bear who pawed one of the dogs.

"I heard a yelp and my first thought was, 'you're not killing my dog,' " West said.

Grabbing a nearby stick that was about eight centimetres in diameter and a 1.5 metres long, West turned to see the bear running at him.

He lifted the stick just as she came up on him, hitting her smack-dab between the ears.

"She stopped in her tracks. I had stunned her and she shook her head.

"My mind immediately turned to driving in 10-inch spikes with a sledgehammer and I hit her until I crushed her skull," he said.

West whacked the bear five times before she hit the ground.

He whacked her another three times until he saw blood coming out of her nose.

He wrapped his head with his shirt, gathered himself and the dogs and headed to a nearby restaurant to call paramedics.

"He came in and his hands were covered in blood and he had a bloody shirt wrapped around his head," said Ellie Scott of Little Horse Lodge, who patched him up while waiting for the ambulance.

"He was so calm. And I honestly thought he would be bleeding more."

West received a total of 60 stitches to his skull, upper lip and left arm and is already back at home and back in the woods.

Conservation officers who found the dead bear told him it was unnaturally, overly aggressive.

The mama bear's two cubs had to be put down in case the aggression had been passed down in their genes, he said.

"I feel great regret for having to kill that bear and even more that her cubs were put down. But it was her or me," said West.

As for West's dogs? They got their reward Tuesday -- a steak dinner.

kmercer theprovince.com

? The Vancouver Province 2008
 
A few years back an older gent really did kill a female brownie on kodiak island with his knife. he was deer hunting at the time. i cant remember if he got a shot into her with his rifle or not, but i dont think so, either way he finished the fight with a knife.
 
LMMFAO......"with a knife it wouldn't be a problem".

You don't get out much do you piper?



great post/pic, thanks for sharing

JB
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He doesn't need to get out - he saw it happen on a movie - don't you remember Tristan as an old man killing the bear in "Legends of the Fall"? Oh yeah but wait, the bear killed him too - our did their spirits just become one? Wierd ending to a pretty good Brad Pitt and Anthony Hopkins movie.

That old boy who killed that momma black bear with a club is one dude I don't want to run in to in an Anchorage back alley for sure!


UTROY
Proverbs 21:19 (why I hunt!)
 
I remember an article about a guy,(Ed Wiseman?)that was a guide in Colorado that was attacked by a sow griz while bow hunting. It was about 30 years ago or so. The story goes that he killed the sow with an arrow that had fallen from his quiver during the attack. I don't think anyones odds are good against any bear when the person is armed with only a knife.
Norkal
 
Deer hunter battles grizzly, ends up winner

By CRAIG MEDRED
Anchorage Daily News

Published: April 18th, 2007 12:14 PM
Last Modified: December 16th, 2007 02:15 PM

Sixty-eight-year-old Gene Moe was butchering a deer on Raspberry Island on Monday when a grizzly bear jumped him, knocked him to the ground and began to maul him.




The Anchorage contractor fought back the only way he could: He stabbed the bear with the knife in his hand.

A badly mauled Moe told Silver Salmon Lodge owner Peter Guttchen that when he sank his knife into the animal's neck, blood "spurted'' out. Moe told Guttchen that he stabbed the bear twice more before it climbed off him.

TX: Fish and Wildlife Protection trooper Allan Jones of Kodiak said the Anchorage hunter then recovered his rifle and shot the attacking bear three times. The shots, Jones said, apparently killed the bear.

Moe, despite being badly injured and alone, climbed to his feet and started hiking for the beach of the wilderness island east of Kodiak.

"He's one tough old buzzard,'' said nephew Doug Moe of Homer. "He's an old-timer, but he's got the heart of a 20-year-old.''

"I don't know how far he walked,'' Jones said, but it appeared that Moe might have covered as much as two miles getting to the beach.

It was there, Jones said, that Gene Moe met other members of his hunting party. Seeing how badly he was injured, Guttchen said, they loaded him into a skiff and made a run to the nearby lodge.

The group came motoring into the bay waving wildly, he said. When he went down to see what was wrong, they told him they had a badly injured hunter.

Guttchen said he could barely believe what he saw. The bear had torn an 18-inch-long chunk of fat and muscle out of Moe's leg, and ripped skin hung loose from the hunter's shoulder and arms.

But he got out of the boat and started walking up the beach to the lodge. Doug Moe said he'd have been shocked if it had happened any other way.

"This guy is one of the toughest beings alive,'' Doug said. "He could walk to the North Pole in his day.''

"He's an awesome guy,'' added daughter Jane Newby of Anchorage. "(But) I'd rather listen to his stories than experience them.''

Family members said this was not the first near-deadly hunting accident for Gene Moe.

He fell hundreds of feet down a Chugach Range mountain while sheep hunting in the 1950s, they said.

This time, Guttchen said, Moe was lucky to survive.

He was in pretty bad shape when he got to the lodge. Fortunately, Guttchen was able to reach the U.S. Coast Guard in Kodiak on a cellular phone. The Coast Guard sent a helicopter to rush Moe to the Kodiak hospital.

He spent seven hours in surgery there Monday night and Tuesday morning.

"The nurse said that this guy had so many stitches she couldn't even count them all,'' said Coast Guard Chief Petty Officer Tod Lyons.

Moe is expected to recover from the injuries, but he was sedated on Tuesday and unable to talk. That left details of the bear attack sketchy.

Here's what was known based on interviews with the Coast Guard, troopers, family friends, hospital personnel, employees of the Alaska Department of Fish and Game and lodge owner Guttchen:

Moe was hunting near Selief Bay on Raspberry Island about 25 miles west of the city of Kodiak in a party with his son and two others. The hunters had separated sometime before Moe shot and killed a Sitka blacktail deer.

Moe was dressing and butchering that deer in heavy brush when he was jumped by the bear. He told trooper Jones that he thought the bear might have been a sow with two cubs.

Moe told Guttchen he neither saw nor heard the bear before the attack.

"He was totally surprised,'' Jones added.

The bear knocked Moe to the ground, grabbed his leg in its mouth and began trying to throw him around. It then grabbed him by the shoulder, and Moe began stabbing the bear with the knife he had been using to butcher the deer.

Eventually, the wounded bear retreated, at least temporarily. Moe grabbed his rifle and started shooting. Jones thought Moe killed the bear. Doug Moe, who had talked to Gene Moe's son by cell phone shortly after the shooting, thought the bear was only wounded, and that his cousin was going back to finish it.

There was no word on what might have happened to the cubs, if there were any.

Lodge owner Guttchen said the Raspberry Island bears appear to have been particularly aggressive this fall because of a lack of food. Salmon runs were weak, he said, the berry crop was poor, and deer numbers dropped precipitously because of a bad winter last year.

Fish and Game biologist Larry Van Daele of Kodiak estimates deep snow and cold weather in the Kodiak Archipelago might have killed 30 to 35 percent of the deer last winter.

As always, state biologists say, Kodiak deer hunters have to be alert to the possibility of bear encounters. They advise hunters to hunt in pairs for safety, and drag deer to openings where they can see any approaching bears before beginning the process of gutting and butchering.
great post/pic, thanks for sharing

JB
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There was a story a year or two ago where a Dad (once a Marine...) was camping with his kid in the Smokies and a blackie went after the kid or something, but the dad chucked a piece of firewood at the bear and caught it just right in the bean and killed it with just the one chunk of wood.

HB
 
Norkal,

Ed Wiseman did kill the last Grizzly bear confirmed in Colorado. There are a lot of different opinions about how it really came down. Some say there was a bullet hole in it too, put there by one of his hunters. Doesn't really matter at this point in time. He was one tough dude though. The bear pulled his scalp almost all the way off and he had a bunch of other wounds. The guys he was guiding tied him on a horse to get him out, the horse then rolled down a steep talas slope with him on it. Broke a bunch of ribs and punctured a lung.

He used to be married to my one of my Wife's Cousins.

Bean
 
I always wondered of my chances up against a pissed off big bear, me only armed with a knife and aluminum baseball bat.

I've told friends that if ever i was told that i was bad sick, only so long to live, i'd buy a Grizzly bear tag, find a buried bear killed moose, and see who wins. True story!

One of my buds offered to film the event :) Not sure if he was joking or not but i wasn't. So far, glad i'm healthy but threads like this one give one thoughts.

Joey
 
Die or fight .... dont bring a knife to a bear fight... I believe its possible to kill a bear with only a knife during an attack. your will to live would be the deciding factor . The knife would have to be used correctly and Luck would have to be on your side . A bear is much like a human being they have a throat wich if cut will blead out and not allow the bear to breath. as well a bear has a heart if the knife penetrated thru the hide fat meat and ribs the bear would again bleed out. also if the guts could be cut open and a hand inserted to pull out the intestines the bear would die.. The big question here would be panic if the person paniced and was only trying to preserve his life he would surly die . however if possibe to remain calm and fight like it was an x wife or 4 trying to kill him. with luck the person may win the day ... big difference in fighting a bear with a knife and an X wife the bear has a heart X wifes dont
 
Is any body giving any thought as to what the bear is doing with the 10 "knives" he brought to the table?
 
I cant recall the exact source but I do remember reading of an account where an eskimo hunter was out on the ice and a polar bear decided to have him for a meal. When the bear reared up and lunged to get him he stuck both hands into the bears mouth. His mittons came off and lodged in the bears throat and it choked to death. That story was very plausible to me.
I would not want to try it though ;)
 
Harry Wolhunter killed a full grown, uninjured lion in Africa with his belt knife. The lion attacked, mauled Harry, then began to drag him off into the long grass to begin dinner. It was dragging him by his right shoulder. Harry reached down with his LEFT hand, retreived the knife from the sheath on his right side, and backhanded the blade into the lions side twice, then slashed its throat. Killed it dead as chastity. By the way, you should see pics of Wolhunter -- he looks like he is 6 feet tall at about 140.

I would guess you could kill a grizzly with a good, sharp knife and some luck. But this says nothing about whether you would die from the injuries inflicted during the attack. You would be in very bad shape, I would imagine.
 
" stick your hand up his ass and pull his heart out"

nickman I'm still laughing at that one.

You guys need to read Alaska Bear Tales by Larry Kanuit, its a compilation of stories about bear attacks, you have no idea what kind of strength big bears have. Even little ones can kill you quite easily.

I don't know about you but I don't ever want to find out if I could kill one with a knife. It's what he's doing with his mouth and claws while your trying to poke him with a knife that has me wooried.
 
LAST EDITED ON Feb-17-09 AT 03:26PM (MST)[p]You silly munchkins are missing the whole point of the thread.

Check out the link I posted. There is some pretty funny stuff in there. Just put a / at the end of the url I listed, or copy and paste the whole thing. For some reason the / wasn't included as part of the link.
 
This happened in British Columbia

October 20, 1995 - A hunter, Dale Graham, was crossing a beaver dam while hunting. Although carrying a rifle, he was knocked down, seriously injured, but managed to respond by stabbing the bear repeatedly in the head and neck with a small knife. Luckily, he survived the attack, killing the bear.
 

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