Weiserbucks
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There is no LIVE test for CWD. It can't be cured & is always fatal. The worst of it is the prions that cause it are very hardy, able to survive boiling & disinfectants. That's why feed sites are so bad for wildlife; the prions last seemingly forever in the soil at the site.Makes PERFECT sense for the Idiots running F&G lets kill 1000 more deer just to see IF IF IF any of those killed have CWD.. Why not use the $100 s of thousands of $$ already set a side from lisc & tag sales & run some into nets check & release the ones that are Negative ?? Hell lets save that plan for when they cant figure out Why a herd in a certain unit has gone to Sheet !!
As yet, there is no reliable test for live deer ! So what you "seen & heard" makes no sense & is impossible to know.I'm not sure I agree that CWD is always fatal. From what I've seen and heard there are a lot of deer that are carriers of CWD that don't show any sign of being sick and are very healthy and don't die from CWD?
I will answer my own question I guessCWD has been in Colorado since the 60’s
I’ve been eating deer since the 60’s
I’m still alive after literally eating meat from probably 100 different deer or more.
Nobody I’ve ever known has ever got sick
They say it’s 100% mortal to deer but how can they prove that if there is no way to test for it in live deer?
I've been writing about CWD for 30+ yrs. Lots of research stuff out there.I’d question how fatal it is for deer. Do they die within months of contracting it or years. Maybe that data is out there I just haven’t seen it. I’d think that would make a huge difference on how pro active you’d need to be about fighting it.
This is how Farm and Game monitors animals, they're much easier to monitor if they're dead.That’s makes it seem like monitoring herd health would be much better than harvesting this many animals just to check and see.
It's probably like HIV or herpes in humans. Tons of people are HIV "positive" and will never get sick even without medicine and like 90+% have herpes living in them.I would really be interested in knowing if CWD is truly fatal to every deer that has it or are they just carriers? From what I see it isn't fatal and CWD is not increasing at an alarming rate even in the hot spot areas.
Alzheimer's is NOT a prion disease! Seriously...Makes me wonder if prion transmission is a bunch of b.s. Alzheimers is a prion disease and last I checked is not contagious. Germ theory is still a highly debatable science...but I'm no scientist.
I do think 2 deer "testing positive" is highly suspect "scientific evidence" to implement a slaughter. F & G biologists are historically suspect themselves. *reintroduce wolves*, "oops, they multiplied, lets slaughter them from helicopters, *pour rotenone into a lake* (to kill brookies cuz we hate brookies...for some reason), "oops, we killed off 7 miles of the Salmon River and damn near a Chinook hatchery (early 90's...I was working on it).
I wonder how many poor suckers bought muley tags in those areas for next year. Glad the tag I bought isn't anywhere near it.
From all anecdotal evidence I've heard, eating deer with CWD has NEVER caused a problem. Stop all the bullshit that supposedly causes it (game farms, etc...) and leave the damn deer alone.
They have been studying CWD in captive wildlife at research facilities for decades. Every animal that has been infected with the disease dies. It is 100% fatal. Some animals can carry it for a while before they show clinical symptoms, but they eventually develop symptoms and die.There are a lot of healthy deer that hunters shoot each and every year that are diagnosed with cwd. It’s obvious all of these show no symptoms of being sick before being shot or you would hear otherwise. It’s impossible to say whether these deer would die of cwd or are merely carriers and live healthy lives if they weren’t shot. They show no sign of being sick before being shot. My guess is they are just carriers of cwd and won’t die from cwd. Your comment that all deer that have cwd is fatal is false because this is unknown.
Outdoor writer, how much time do you spend looking at deer each day in cwd hotspot areas and how many sick deer have you seen? I spend hours upon hours each day at work in one of the hottest cwd spots in the entire nation and have only seen 1 deer with cwd symptoms in over 15 years. I spend hours each week monitoring deer in these hotspot areas.
I’m sure with thousands of hunters and outdoorsman being in the field that there would be sightings of sick deer in cwd high concentration areas but you hardly ever hear about them! I have no concern what so ever that cwd is going to wipe out our deer herd. The coyotes and other predators kill the very few that are truly sick. Unless proven I believe the remaining carriers of cwd will live healthy lives.
None, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express. Does that count?Outdoor writer, how much time do you spend looking at deer each day in cwd hotspot areas and how many sick deer have you seen?
Alzheimer's is NOT a prion disease! Seriously...
There are many 'prion' diseases, just as there are many unique virus & bacterium caused diseases. In humans, the closest prion disease to CWD is Creutzfeldt-Jakob, which is an off-shoot of mad cow disease. Some prion diseases such as CWD & scrappies are quite contagious, while CJ or mad cow aren't.Alzheimer’s Disease is a ‘Double-Prion Disorder,’ Study Shows
Two proteins central to the pathology of Alzheimer’s disease act as prions – spreading through tissue like an infection by forcing normal proteins to adopt the same misfolded shape.www.ucsf.edu
Regardless, dementia is and it's not contagious.
There is no live test for CWD.I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure the test itself requires mortality
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