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Found this on another hunting site. Posting it here for your information. I have not confirmed the content of this post.

Mark

From: SCI - SE Michigan Bowhunters Chapter
10-21-03

Peak Antifreeze Support Anti-Hunters

A member of our chapter recently bought four gallons of Peak Antifreeze. It was a good deal offering a $1 per gallon rebate. Later on, while filling out the rebate form he noticed you could either request the $4 rebate, or donate it to the American Humane Association (AHA). Upon checking out the AHA web site, here are some of the things they had to say about hunting:

*Bear baiting is an unsporting, unethical, and barbaric practice used by trophy hunters to lure bears to food to shoot them point-blank.

*As many animal advocates know, the vast majority of animals that die in these barbaric traps are used for luxury fur garments.

*American Humane opposes the hunting of any living creature for fun, trophy, or for simple sport. American Humane believes that sport hunting is a form of exploitation of animals for the entertainment of the hunter and is contrary to the values of compassion and respect for all life that inform American Humane's mission.

*American Humane considers sport hunting a violation of the inherent integrity of animals and disruptive of the natural balance of the environment through human manipulation, and calls for positive action to be taken to prevent such cruelties

Needless to say, the anti-freeze was returned to the store immediately, with an explanation to the store manager. Not only that, but this member had the good sense to call Edward Powderly (Brand Manager, PEAK Performance Products) to express his displeasure with the company's promotion.

First off, Mr. Powderly claimed that the AHA did not have a stance against hunting and that they were being confused with the HSUS... ...Then he was read the quotes from the AHA website.

Next, Mr. Powderly claimed that although they might have an anti-hunting stance that they are not actively involved in putting a stop to hunting...

...Then the numerous legislative anti-hunting bills that the AHA is actively lobbying for (per their website) was pointed out to him.

Next, Mr. Powderly claimed that the money generated from his promotion was going to be a very small amount compared to the AHA's total budget...

...To which the point was made very clear that the principle of even one penny of a hunter's money going to fund such activities is entirely unacceptable and that this practice will not be tolerated by America's sportsmen.

At that point, and running out of lame excuses, Mr. Powderly became rather smug, at one point stating that if a small group of hunters don't want to buy Peak antifreeze, that's fine... buy another brand... many of them are made by Peak and we wouldn't even know we were buying it.

It was suggested to Mr. Powderly that they be more careful who they are giving money to. He stated that this promotion was only going to last about another month and a half (until December), as if that were a good thing. Let's make it a month and a half Mr. Powderly and Peak antifreeze will not forget!

ACTION:

Peak is evidently not aware that there are millions of hunters across the country, and that we are indeed a segment of the population that requires some respect when it comes to "politically correct" promotions. We will not tolerate having our discretional expense money being turned over to those who aim to put an end to our traditional, family-oriented, hunting lifestyle, and to North America's extremely successful wildlife management system, which is primarily funded by sportsman. We need to hit them hard! Let's assure this type of "mistake" doesn't happen again. Please forward this message to all outdoor sports enthusiast on your list.

To contact Peak go to: http://www.peakantifreeze.com/email.htm

An extended list of products produced under other names by Peak include the following: (see http://www.peakantifreeze.com )

1. Advance Antifreeze
2. All Weather Antifreeze
3. Final Charge Global Extended Life
4. Fleet Charge Antifreeze
5. Fleet Charge Pre-Mixed
6. Full Force Antifreeze
7. Peak Antifreeze
8. Peak Ready Use
9. Peak Extended Life
10. Peak RV & Marine Antifreeze
11. Peak Windshield Wash
12. Peak Ultra Melt
13. Sierra Antifreeze
 
PLEASE DON'T TELL THEM I USED TO SET 2 GALLONS OF 'PEAK' ANTI-FREEZE OUT FOR THE BEARS,YOU KNOW SOMETIMES THEY NEED A DRINK!!!

FROM NOW ON I'LL FILL THEM UP WITH PRESTONE!!!

DON'T THEY REALIZE THIS STUFF KEEPS THEM BEARS WARM DURING THE WINTER???

THEY DONT REALLY THINK I'VE BEEN POURING ALL THIS IN MY TRUCK DO THEY
???

THE ONLY BOBCAT NOT AFRAID TO OFFER A BEAR A DRINK!!!
 
LAST EDITED ON Oct-23-03 AT 01:13AM (MST)[p]There are many companies out there that donate to groups, like PETA, that aren't hunter friendly.
 
I emailed them just to see what kind of response I would get. I let them know that I and all of my hunting friends (including my mechanic) wouldn't buy or use their products again.
 
I also sent them a E-mail message telling them that I would no longer use their product. A hunting friend, who is a manager of a car parts franchise store, would refer his customers to another brand of anti freeze, due to their support of a anti hunting group. Today I got a E-mail message from them stating that due to the AHA taking a anti hunting stance, they are going to severe their support of AHA. I will wait and see if they do. If they severe their support, I will use their Sierra brand of anti freeze in the future.
RELH
 
I also have seen an email in which they said they are severing their relationship with the AHA due to the animal rights stances of the AHA. It seems that they got hooked up with the program since making a safer product for dogs and cats, and a contribution to an animal humane organization seemed to go hand in hand. Sounds logical.

I can believe that and if they do indeed severe the relationship, I will by their products. I think it is probably just as important to send them an "atta boy" comment when they do.

In cases like this, thte internet is really great. Doubt they would have gotten so many negative responses without it!

Keep up the good work. With time, we can educate these companies about the true nature of 98% of "humane" organizations. They don't spend any dollars on animal welfare, just fronts for animal rights.

txhunter58

venor, ergo sum (I hunt, therefore I am)
 
Here is the response I got from them after emailing them my concerns.....

It has recently come to our attention that the hunting community is upset about one of our company?s products, Sierra antifreeze, which has a sponsorship with the American Humane Association (AHA). Our intention with getting involved with the AHA several years ago, was to bring awareness to families of pets and children about a safer antifreeze, Sierra, due to it's
less toxic nature vs. conventional ethylene glycol based antifreeze. Every year approximately 100,000 pets/animals die from ingesting conventional antifreeze off of garage floors and driveways. The objective was awareness of a safer solution to this, not to alienate the hunting and outdoorsman
community. Unknown to us, the AHA has apparently taken some active stances against certain rights of hunters. Upon hearing this, we have made a decision to sever our sponsorship with the AHA. Thank you for bringing this to our attention and we hope you'll continue to support Old World Industries products like Sierra antifreeze and other PEAK performance
products.

Sincerely,

SIERRA Antifreeze

Looks like we are making a little headway.
Best,
Jerry
 
I am going to be emailing this to all my friends (and they are numberous) and then as soon as I am done doing that I will be emailing them and teling them that they are insane to think that they will be getting any more of my money.

Jeff
 
Correct Approach??

It seems to me that, if they are really cutting ties to the AHA at least in part in responce to our emails, then we need to acknowledge them for doing the right thing, let them know we will make it a point to purchase there product, and make an effort to spread the word to our friends and internet contacts that this company was responsive to our concerns and is now doing the right thing. Without positive feedback there is no incentive to change. Bad press can run rampant on these type of forums hurting a company - we need to try to make good news spread just as quickly when a company turns things around.

Mark
 
RE: Correct Approach??

Thanks for getting their attention, Jerry. Now I won't feel too bad when buying Peak AF, especially when it's a 2 fer 1 deal.......
 

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