Took my son out a couple weeks ago. Did a lot of hiking hoping for some elk. Only found one but it made us laugh. We crossed a little stream 50 yards from the bike to start the morning and seen tips poking out of the creek bed. Thank god I was by the bike. Had to run back and get my mini shovel and still took a half hour getting it dug out of the rocks. It was buried around 10 inches deep by the time we got to the base.