Hey rut, you saw that 397 straight six that heather passed up on the springcreek 2 years back. Heck you put your hands on that beast. Any bull that has 12" g1's and g2's and still scores 397 is a friggin toad. needless to say she passed it up. I couldn't believe that. I think it was only like 3 days later when my wife shot that 360 bull in one of heathers hot spots and she was more than happy to have that bull. Heather's turned into a score hunter and I think she doesn't get the part where its just plain fun to hunt but then again maybe im wrong. who knows.